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from implants? I'm confused on what is making them die, is it

problems

related to the implants? Did most have them in a long period of time?

I only had mine in for 6 months but its kindof scary to hear of so

many deaths lately. My heart & prayers go out to the families. So sad

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There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

rather than from the implants directly. So many women

have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

" like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

help short term, but long term they make matters

worse.

I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

It's been my observation that women who reject all but

conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

many cases, are much worse.

It's terribly important the implants be removed

properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

better, even with the capsules still in place, they

face a more difficult recovery.

When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

the capsules were left in place, or she had an

extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

between the length of time a woman had her implants

and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

damange.

Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

lifestyle to maintain the progress.

This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

will help any one woman. Different programs target

different parts of the body, so all are important! I

believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

by, the treatments we need as we need them.

I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

newly discovered the connection between their implants

and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

It takes discipline, time and patience.

We have a wonderful group of women here who have

experienced virtually everything that can be

experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

around are here for one reason . . . To help others

find the way! We want to help!

God Bless all,

Rogene

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Dearest Rogene:

Thank you and bless your heart for explaining why some women die. I know

that many of the women in my group are on some deadly drugs. Some drink very

heavily as well, this combination is a killer. The reason that some women

drink is that it helps to kill the pain and the suffering. I have had calls

from women who are drunk and frustrated, and they attack me. These women are

lost, most have no support. This group has saved many lives because women

can come here for the support that they need.

I have just spoken to Dr. Blais, he is such a darling man. He told me that

Fumento is not one man, but a number of people who are writing these

articles claiming that breast implants are safe. Dr. Blais has told me to

continue to communicate with this machine, because if you think of these

people as machines they cannot hurt you. will respond to this machine

when he has a moment.

Sending love to all....Lea

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

Re: Why have so many women lately been dying?

>

> There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

> suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

> surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

> from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

>

> It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

> they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

> rather than from the implants directly. So many women

> have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

>

> The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

> " like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

> As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

> it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

> problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

> help short term, but long term they make matters

> worse.

>

> I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

> It's been my observation that women who reject all but

> conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

> many cases, are much worse.

>

> It's terribly important the implants be removed

> properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

> harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

> better, even with the capsules still in place, they

> face a more difficult recovery.

>

> When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

> alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

> the capsules were left in place, or she had an

> extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

> polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

> the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

> between the length of time a woman had her implants

> and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

> shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

> metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

> metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

> damange.

>

> Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

> about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

> where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

> woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

> it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

> lifestyle to maintain the progress.

>

> This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

> getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

> number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

> will help any one woman. Different programs target

> different parts of the body, so all are important! I

> believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

> gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

> by, the treatments we need as we need them.

>

> I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

> newly discovered the connection between their implants

> and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

> proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

> It takes discipline, time and patience.

>

> We have a wonderful group of women here who have

> experienced virtually everything that can be

> experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

> question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

> around are here for one reason . . . To help others

> find the way! We want to help!

>

> God Bless all,

>

> Rogene

>

>>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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Please help. Today, and just about every day my tongue burns and my hands

hurt. My hands get numb especially my right hand. The foot pain seems to be

gone; however, I still have vibrations in my left leg, but this is getting

better.

I have little nodes(lumps) on my right fingers, I think that my doctor

called them Hebron nodes. Do any of the ladies on this site have these

nodes?

Love always....lea

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``````````````````

Re: Why have so many women lately been dying?

>

> There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

> suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

> surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

> from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

>

> It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

> they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

> rather than from the implants directly. So many women

> have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

>

> The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

> " like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

> As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

> it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

> problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

> help short term, but long term they make matters

> worse.

>

> I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

> It's been my observation that women who reject all but

> conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

> many cases, are much worse.

>

> It's terribly important the implants be removed

> properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

> harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

> better, even with the capsules still in place, they

> face a more difficult recovery.

>

> When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

> alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

> the capsules were left in place, or she had an

> extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

> polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

> the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

> between the length of time a woman had her implants

> and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

> shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

> metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

> metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

> damange.

>

> Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

> about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

> where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

> woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

> it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

> lifestyle to maintain the progress.

>

> This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

> getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

> number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

> will help any one woman. Different programs target

> different parts of the body, so all are important! I

> believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

> gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

> by, the treatments we need as we need them.

>

> I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

> newly discovered the connection between their implants

> and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

> proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

> It takes discipline, time and patience.

>

> We have a wonderful group of women here who have

> experienced virtually everything that can be

> experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

> question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

> around are here for one reason . . . To help others

> find the way! We want to help!

>

> God Bless all,

>

> Rogene

>

>>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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> Dearest Rogene:

>

> Thank you and bless your heart for explaining why some women die. I

know

> that many of the women in my group are on some deadly drugs. Some

drink very

> heavily as well, this combination is a killer. The reason that some

women

> drink is that it helps to kill the pain and the suffering. I have

had calls

> from women who are drunk and frustrated, and they attack me. These

women are

> lost, most have no support. This group has saved many lives because

women

> can come here for the support that they need.

>

> I have just spoken to Dr. Blais, he is such a darling man. He told

me that

> Fumento is not one man, but a number of people who are writing

these

> articles claiming that breast implants are safe. Dr. Blais has told

me to

> continue to communicate with this machine, because if you think of

these

> people as machines they cannot hurt you. will respond to this

machine

> when he has a moment.

>

> Sending love to all....Lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

>

>

> Re: Why have so many women lately been

dying?

>

>

> >

> > There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

> > suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

> > surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

> > from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

> >

> > It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

> > they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

> > rather than from the implants directly. So many women

> > have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

> >

> > The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

> > " like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

> > As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

> > it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

> > problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

> > help short term, but long term they make matters

> > worse.

> >

> > I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

> > It's been my observation that women who reject all but

> > conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

> > many cases, are much worse.

> >

> > It's terribly important the implants be removed

> > properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

> > harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

> > better, even with the capsules still in place, they

> > face a more difficult recovery.

> >

> > When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

> > alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

> > the capsules were left in place, or she had an

> > extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

> > polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

> > the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

> > between the length of time a woman had her implants

> > and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

> > shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

> > metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

> > metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

> > damange.

> >

> > Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

> > about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

> > where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

> > woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

> > it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

> > lifestyle to maintain the progress.

> >

> > This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

> > getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

> > number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

> > will help any one woman. Different programs target

> > different parts of the body, so all are important! I

> > believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

> > gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

> > by, the treatments we need as we need them.

> >

> > I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

> > newly discovered the connection between their implants

> > and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

> > proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

> > It takes discipline, time and patience.

> >

> > We have a wonderful group of women here who have

> > experienced virtually everything that can be

> > experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

> > question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

> > around are here for one reason . . . To help others

> > find the way! We want to help!

> >

> > God Bless all,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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A machine is a good word for him, he certainly didn’t sound human! :)

Kenda

>

> I have just spoken to Dr. Blais, he is such a darling man. He told

me that

> Fumento is not one man, but a number of people who are writing

these

> articles claiming that breast implants are safe. Dr. Blais has told

me to

> continue to communicate with this machine, because if you think of

these

> people as machines they cannot hurt you. will respond to this

machine

> when he has a moment.

>

> Sending love to all....Lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

>

>

> Re: Why have so many women lately been

dying?

>

>

> >

> > There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

> > suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

> > surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

> > from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

> >

> > It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

> > they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

> > rather than from the implants directly. So many women

> > have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

> >

> > The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

> > " like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

> > As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

> > it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

> > problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

> > help short term, but long term they make matters

> > worse.

> >

> > I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

> > It's been my observation that women who reject all but

> > conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

> > many cases, are much worse.

> >

> > It's terribly important the implants be removed

> > properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

> > harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

> > better, even with the capsules still in place, they

> > face a more difficult recovery.

> >

> > When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

> > alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

> > the capsules were left in place, or she had an

> > extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

> > polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

> > the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

> > between the length of time a woman had her implants

> > and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

> > shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

> > metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

> > metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

> > damange.

> >

> > Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

> > about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

> > where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

> > woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

> > it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

> > lifestyle to maintain the progress.

> >

> > This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

> > getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

> > number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

> > will help any one woman. Different programs target

> > different parts of the body, so all are important! I

> > believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

> > gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

> > by, the treatments we need as we need them.

> >

> > I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

> > newly discovered the connection between their implants

> > and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

> > proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

> > It takes discipline, time and patience.

> >

> > We have a wonderful group of women here who have

> > experienced virtually everything that can be

> > experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

> > question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

> > around are here for one reason . . . To help others

> > find the way! We want to help!

> >

> > God Bless all,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Lea,

I have the tongue burning sensation most of the time too. My

implants are still in and I'm getting more and more convinced that

this is all related.

The doctors have prescribed some dental paste which is sort of

annoying to use, but helps with the pain. Topical steroid paste

works as well (another reason to believe this is all stemming from

systemic disorder) I have switched to baking soda toothpaste and

stopped using mouthwash except for a rinse that I got from walgreens

that helps with canker sore pain. I only use it every other week

though. I just had an oral cancer screening done, just to be sure

and it showed negative results. My hands and wrists hurt too, but

not as much as they did a few years ago. I hope you feel better

soon. Are your post extraction? You probably told me in another

message, I'll try to find it.

I know that the nodes are symptoms of RA, or a symptom of RA.

I hope you start feeling better.

take care,

--- In , " Lea " <devans@c...>

wrote:

> Please help. Today, and just about every day my tongue burns and

my hands

> hurt. My hands get numb especially my right hand. The foot pain

seems to be

> gone; however, I still have vibrations in my left leg, but this is

getting

> better.

>

> I have little nodes(lumps) on my right fingers, I think that my

doctor

> called them Hebron nodes. Do any of the ladies on this site have

these

> nodes?

>

> Love always....lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``````````````````

> Re: Why have so many women lately been

dying?

>

>

> >

> > There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

> > suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

> > surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

> > from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

> >

> > It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

> > they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

> > rather than from the implants directly. So many women

> > have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

> >

> > The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

> > " like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

> > As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

> > it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

> > problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

> > help short term, but long term they make matters

> > worse.

> >

> > I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

> > It's been my observation that women who reject all but

> > conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

> > many cases, are much worse.

> >

> > It's terribly important the implants be removed

> > properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

> > harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

> > better, even with the capsules still in place, they

> > face a more difficult recovery.

> >

> > When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

> > alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

> > the capsules were left in place, or she had an

> > extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

> > polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

> > the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

> > between the length of time a woman had her implants

> > and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

> > shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

> > metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

> > metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

> > damange.

> >

> > Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

> > about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

> > where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

> > woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

> > it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

> > lifestyle to maintain the progress.

> >

> > This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

> > getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

> > number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

> > will help any one woman. Different programs target

> > different parts of the body, so all are important! I

> > believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

> > gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

> > by, the treatments we need as we need them.

> >

> > I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

> > newly discovered the connection between their implants

> > and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

> > proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

> > It takes discipline, time and patience.

> >

> > We have a wonderful group of women here who have

> > experienced virtually everything that can be

> > experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

> > question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

> > around are here for one reason . . . To help others

> > find the way! We want to help!

> >

> > God Bless all,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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A really great post rogene--that about says it all! Thanks

kathy

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

> suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

> surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

> from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

>

> It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

> they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

> rather than from the implants directly. So many women

> have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

>

> The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

> " like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

> As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

> it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

> problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

> help short term, but long term they make matters

> worse.

>

> I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

> It's been my observation that women who reject all but

> conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

> many cases, are much worse.

>

> It's terribly important the implants be removed

> properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

> harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

> better, even with the capsules still in place, they

> face a more difficult recovery.

>

> When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

> alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

> the capsules were left in place, or she had an

> extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

> polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

> the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

> between the length of time a woman had her implants

> and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

> shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

> metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

> metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

> damange.

>

> Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

> about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

> where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

> woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

> it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

> lifestyle to maintain the progress.

>

> This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

> getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

> number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

> will help any one woman. Different programs target

> different parts of the body, so all are important! I

> believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

> gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

> by, the treatments we need as we need them.

>

> I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

> newly discovered the connection between their implants

> and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

> proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

> It takes discipline, time and patience.

>

> We have a wonderful group of women here who have

> experienced virtually everything that can be

> experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

> question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

> around are here for one reason . . . To help others

> find the way! We want to help!

>

> God Bless all,

>

> Rogene

>

> >

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The nodes on your hand sound like arthritis. I think people with RA

get those. And sometimes with some of the other rheumatic

conditions. I havent had that but I have had tongue tingling and

burning in the past. I definitely had hand pain prior to

explantation. And my arm would sometimes go numb or feel like I

couldn't move it after I fell asleep sometimes. That is all gone

now. Sounds like something that could bve related to the need to

detox. Have you been doing any? I hope that you get relief from

these symptoms soon. Perhaps a far infrared sauna would help?

Blessings

Kathy

--- In , " Lea " <devans@c...>

wrote:

> Please help. Today, and just about every day my tongue burns and

my hands

> hurt. My hands get numb especially my right hand. The foot pain

seems to be

> gone; however, I still have vibrations in my left leg, but this is

getting

> better.

>

> I have little nodes(lumps) on my right fingers, I think that my

doctor

> called them Hebron nodes. Do any of the ladies on this site have

these

> nodes?

>

> Love always....lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``````````````````

> Re: Why have so many women lately been

dying?

>

>

> >

> > There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

> > suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

> > surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

> > from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

> >

> > It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

> > they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

> > rather than from the implants directly. So many women

> > have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

> >

> > The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

> > " like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

> > As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

> > it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

> > problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

> > help short term, but long term they make matters

> > worse.

> >

> > I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

> > It's been my observation that women who reject all but

> > conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

> > many cases, are much worse.

> >

> > It's terribly important the implants be removed

> > properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

> > harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

> > better, even with the capsules still in place, they

> > face a more difficult recovery.

> >

> > When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

> > alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

> > the capsules were left in place, or she had an

> > extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

> > polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

> > the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

> > between the length of time a woman had her implants

> > and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

> > shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

> > metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

> > metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

> > damange.

> >

> > Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

> > about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

> > where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

> > woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

> > it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

> > lifestyle to maintain the progress.

> >

> > This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

> > getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

> > number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

> > will help any one woman. Different programs target

> > different parts of the body, so all are important! I

> > believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

> > gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

> > by, the treatments we need as we need them.

> >

> > I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

> > newly discovered the connection between their implants

> > and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

> > proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

> > It takes discipline, time and patience.

> >

> > We have a wonderful group of women here who have

> > experienced virtually everything that can be

> > experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

> > question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

> > around are here for one reason . . . To help others

> > find the way! We want to help!

> >

> > God Bless all,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Honey, thank you for this. Please take care of yourself, stress is so bad

for you. Good luck with everything that you are doing. My teeth are fine, it

is my tongue that just will not stop burning. Many women have this same

symptom. My dentist does not want me to use baking soda, he claims that it

is too harsh on the enamel.

Sending love...Lea

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````````````````

Re: Why have so many women lately been

> dying?

>>

>>

>> >

>> > There have been women dying from the outset . . . The

>> > suicide rate alone is 4X's that of other plastic

>> > surgery patients. Some women have lost limbs or died

>> > from toxic shock. Brain cancer is considerably higher!

>> >

>> > It's been my observation that, when women get sick,

>> > they are dying from mistreatment, or over-treatment,

>> > rather than from the implants directly. So many women

>> > have had needless surgeries because of these problems.

>> >

>> > The symptoms are so confusing . . . diseases are

>> > " like- " illnesses that don't truely fit any profile.

>> > As a result, if a doctor treats a woman, he shotguns

>> > it with a barrage of drugs that only increase the

>> > problems. In particular, antibiotics and steroids may

>> > help short term, but long term they make matters

>> > worse.

>> >

>> > I've been involved in the implant issue since 1994.

>> > It's been my observation that women who reject all but

>> > conventional medicine have not gotten better, and in

>> > many cases, are much worse.

>> >

>> > It's terribly important the implants be removed

>> > properly. The capsules contain silicone debris and may

>> > harbor dangerous bacteria. While many women do get

>> > better, even with the capsules still in place, they

>> > face a more difficult recovery.

>> >

>> > When a woman gets worse after explant, it's almost

>> > alway the case that she had a spill during explant,

>> > the capsules were left in place, or she had an

>> > extra-capsular rupture. Women who had the old

>> > polyurethane implants (like Lea) for a long time, have

>> > the toughest recovery. There is a definite connection

>> > between the length of time a woman had her implants

>> > and how sick she is. Even with Saline implants, the

>> > shell gradually deteriorates and releases highly toxic

>> > metals like platinum and tin into the body. These

>> > metals can cause long-lasting neurological and tissue

>> > damange.

>> >

>> > Most conventional doctors look sideways when we talk

>> > about detoxing the body. . . But, that appears to be

>> > where the solution is. There are detox centers where a

>> > woman can get in-house treatment - if she can afford

>> > it - which has to be followed by a disciplined

>> > lifestyle to maintain the progress.

>> >

>> > This group is the ONLY group I know of where women are

>> > getting better on a regular basis. We recommend a

>> > number of detox programs - We don't know which ones

>> > will help any one woman. Different programs target

>> > different parts of the body, so all are important! I

>> > believe that, if we listen to the inner voice that God

>> > gives all of us, we will be attracted to, or repelled

>> > by, the treatments we need as we need them.

>> >

>> > I know this is all very confusing to someone who has

>> > newly discovered the connection between their implants

>> > and their illnesses. The good news is that, with

>> > proper removal, and detoxing, life can be good again.

>> > It takes discipline, time and patience.

>> >

>> > We have a wonderful group of women here who have

>> > experienced virtually everything that can be

>> > experienced with breast implants. If anyone has a

>> > question, please ask away. Those of us who have stuck

>> > around are here for one reason . . . To help others

>> > find the way! We want to help!

>> >

>> > God Bless all,

>> >

>> > Rogene

>> >

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by

>> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

>> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>> >

>> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

>> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live

>> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

>> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>> >

>> >

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