Who has had success rifing co-infections?

November 2, 2009

What infection? What machine?

I know Stolar used doug coil for all his coinfections.

I think Thane has mixed success killing babesia.

I have an EMEM5a and a doug coil, but neither seems to be able to help me with

coinfections.

I am more and more thinking of trying a machine that works a different way.

Maybe the GB4000 as I heard it is a contact machine. I also am thinking of

Jim's new machines.

~

November 2, 2009

, you're right i would say my success has been mixed. I think i beat ehrlichia with my doug coil machine because i stopped herxing and when i went back to treat it a month or two later i still had no herx. But i realize that my lack of herxing doesn't prove i got rid of it. Particularly because my lack of herxing didn't mean anything when it came to babesia. A month or so after very aggressive babesia treatments it came back again and herxed big time, then i beat it down again, then it came back and on the fourth time around I gave up with rifing and went to artemisinin. Turns out using artemisinin is like using a weapon that progressively gets duller with use. The liver produces enzymes or something that metabolizes the artemisinin faster and

faster making it less and less effective. So even when i started using artemisinin i thought i had babesia beat because i stopped herxing and my symptoms improved. But, like after rifing for babs, the symptoms came back again. Now i'm using Artemisia, which is the whole herb, not just a derivitive like artemisinin is, and i'm herxing like a mo' fo'. So what i've deduced is the reason i stopped herxing from rifing 570hz for babesia is the machine couldn't reach any more bugs and so the herxes stopped. Also, the artemisinin couldn't reach any more bugs because it was just too weak to start with and also became progressively weaker. BUT, artemisia is one tough herb because its been giving me productive herxes for almost two months now and no end in sight. So, those are my mixed results. I really should have experimented with other babesia frx than just 570hz but if artemisia keeps producing dieoff

i'll just stick with that.

Thane

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 3:41:26 PMSubject: Who has had success rifing co-infections?

What infection? What machine?I know Stolar used doug coil for all his coinfections.I think Thane has mixed success killing babesia.I have an EMEM5a and a doug coil, but neither seems to be able to help me with coinfections.I am more and more thinking of trying a machine that works a different way. Maybe the GB4000 as I heard it is a contact machine. I also am thinking of Jim's new machines.~

November 2, 2009

Dr. Zhang's artemesia? His is in fact artesunate according to Dr. Schallers

e-book posted yesterday.

Schaller also says artemesia the whole plant has toxic stuff in it somewhere.

He also mentioned that as a sanity check, 8 capsules 3 times a day is " very

unwise " . Apparently this stuff can cause free radical damage and damage

cappilaries, and should be taken with certain antioxidants, which he didnt

mention in the update, but says me mentioned in his book.

Basically all he says is take the highest tolerable dose without takign too much

(which is very confusing =P).

I just heard today from a doctor that Dr. K treats some Bartonella with

biltricide, which is an antiparasitic I heard. Apparently, he may be working

off the theory that Bartonella has a parasitic stage of life...he says he knew a

patient of Dr. K who got way better treating Bart like that.

Also, Cowden says up to 60 drops of Enula twice a day can be required for

babesia. He says if that does not work, then sometimes he adds 3-5 artemisinin

capsules, 2-3 times a day, 3-5 days a week, for 3 to 6 weeks, on top of the

Enula. He says 8 weeks to remove babesia if cyclical or rotational therapy is

used. He also says 4-8 weeks to get rid of bartonella if high enough doses are

used. He mainly uses Banderol rotated with cumanda. This is all from Connie's

new book.

>

> , you're right i would say my success has been mixed. I think i beat

ehrlichia with my doug coil machine because i stopped herxing and when i went

back to treat it a month or two later i still had no herx. But i realize that

my lack of herxing doesn't prove i got rid of it. Particularly because my lack

of herxing didn't mean anything when it came to babesia. A month or so after

very aggressive babesia treatments it came back again and herxed big time, then

i beat it down again, then it came back and on the fourth time around I gave up

with rifing and went to artemisinin. Turns out using artemisinin is like using

a weapon that progressively gets duller with use. The liver produces enzymes or

something that metabolizes the artemisinin faster and faster making it less and

less effective. So even when i started using artemisinin i thought i had

babesia beat because i stopped herxing and my symptoms improved. But, like

after rifing for

> babs, the symptoms came back again. Now i'm using Artemisia, which is the

whole herb, not just a derivitive like artemisinin is, and i'm herxing like a

mo' fo'. So what i've deduced is the reason i stopped herxing from rifing 570hz

for babesia is the machine couldn't reach any more bugs and so the herxes

stopped. Also, the artemisinin couldn't reach any more bugs because it was just

too weak to start with and also became progressively weaker. BUT, artemisia is

one tough herb because its been giving me productive herxes for almost two

months now and no end in sight. So, those are my mixed results. I really

should have experimented with other babesia frx than just 570hz but if artemisia

keeps producing dieoff i'll just stick with that.

>

> Thane

>

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> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 3:41:26 PM

> Subject: Who has had success rifing co-infections?

>

> What infection? What machine?

>

> I know Stolar used doug coil for all his coinfections.

>

> I think Thane has mixed success killing babesia.

>

> I have an EMEM5a and a doug coil, but neither seems to be able to help me with

coinfections.

>

> I am more and more thinking of trying a machine that works a different way.

Maybe the GB4000 as I heard it is a contact machine. I also am thinking of Jim's

new machines.

>

> ~

>

November 2, 2009

Also Thane,

I should mention that people say grapefruit juice takes care of that enzyme that

makes art not effective (if you didnt already know). And you were right that it

seems artemisinin is going out of style in favor of artesunate. At least that

is the impression I get from schaller's book.