Re: Concave?!!

[Guest guest]

Please, please, please, check out our recommended surgeons and go to one

who will do the right job and make you look as good as humanly

possible. We have heard the horror stories. And there are plastic

surgeons we trust.

Lynda

At 05:50 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote:

>I'm so scared! this is the first time I've heard that you can actually

>look CONCAVE after surgery! Is that true? I have explant scheduled

>soon with capsulectomy (with my original PS) and I have VERY LITTLE

>breast tissue. My PS is a little concerned that I could lose a little

>bit in the capsulectomy. But mine are under the muscle so that should

>help. Also he warned of a higher possibility of blood flow problems

>(to the remaining breast tissue) with a capsulectomy. Has anyone ever

>heard of that? I was sooo small to begin with, I hope I don't come out

>concave....I don't know what I would do. I know I have to get

>explanted...I have severe autoimmune problems after only having them

>for 14 months. But I don't want to end up worse than when I started:(

>Shana

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>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I do trust my original PS. He has been nothing but completely

supportive of me. I think he just wants me to know all of the risks.

Don't the other PS's do this as well? My doc has listened to every

request I have had and is doing my surgery for no out of pocket cost

to me...he is accepting what my insurance will cover as payment in

full. He calls me at home, discusses things with me fully and I do

trust him. But I really need to know about these risks. Wouldn't they

be the same risks as other doctors? Please let me know, Shana -

-- In , Lynda <coss@p...> wrote:

> Please, please, please, check out our recommended surgeons and go

to one

> who will do the right job and make you look as good as humanly

> possible. We have heard the horror stories. And there are plastic

> surgeons we trust.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 05:50 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote:

>

> >I'm so scared! this is the first time I've heard that you can

actually

> >look CONCAVE after surgery! Is that true? I have explant scheduled

> >soon with capsulectomy (with my original PS) and I have VERY LITTLE

> >breast tissue. My PS is a little concerned that I could lose a

little

> >bit in the capsulectomy. But mine are under the muscle so that

should

> >help. Also he warned of a higher possibility of blood flow

problems

> >(to the remaining breast tissue) with a capsulectomy. Has anyone

ever

> >heard of that? I was sooo small to begin with, I hope I don't come

out

> >concave....I don't know what I would do. I know I have to get

> >explanted...I have severe autoimmune problems after only having

them

> >for 14 months. But I don't want to end up worse than when I

started:(

> >Shana

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

If you go to a proper doctor, I believe that you will not be concave. I would have never gone to the doctor that did the implant. I knew that he would tell me more lies. The doctor I went to wasn't on the list because I was too sick to travel.

My feeling is this....because I was soooo sick and lost part of my life, I would rather be concave and well than have some breast tissue and be sick.

If you are well enough, please go to a good doctor. Many people on this site can recommend one. If I could have, I certainly would have. Everything, as far as the surgery worked out well for me because I knew what to ask for. That was because of this group and the information that I was given.

Beth S.kingmashana <shanakingma@...> wrote:

I'm so scared! this is the first time I've heard that you can actually look CONCAVE after surgery! Is that true? I have explant scheduled soon with capsulectomy (with my original PS) and I have VERY LITTLE breast tissue. My PS is a little concerned that I could lose a little bit in the capsulectomy. But mine are under the muscle so that should help. Also he warned of a higher possibility of blood flow problems (to the remaining breast tissue) with a capsulectomy. Has anyone ever heard of that? I was sooo small to begin with, I hope I don't come out concave....I don't know what I would do. I know I have to get explanted...I have severe autoimmune problems after only having them for 14 months. But I don't want to end up worse than when I started:( ShanaOpinions expressed are NOT

meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Shana,

You would think that all plastic surgeons would be

concerned about the welfare of their patients.

Unfortunately, you have one of the more ususual

plastic surgeons out there! . . . We do have a handful

of surgeons we recommend. However, women have traveled

from one side of the country to the other to see them!

The usual routine is for the doctor to first tell them

that it will be better later . . . then when problems

persist to tell them that their problems aren't

related to their implants . . . and, if they get their

implants removed, they won't get better - (here's the

good one) - unless it's psychological!) Sadly, most

surgeons don't remove the capsule, so they may not get

better!

Also . . . one of the lines they use is to tell the

woman they will be disfigured if they have their

implants removed . . . WRONG! Most women go back to

looking close to what they did before their implants.

If they are very stretched out, they may need a lift.

But they shouldn't be scarred for life! The also tell

them that they will be psychologically damaged if they

don't replace them!

Go figure! . . . You've got a good doc!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Shana,

I'm so sorry I scared you! . . . You don't need to be

scared at all!

Think of your chest as a cushion. If something sat on

the cushion for months, then got up, there would be an

indention there. The indention will disappear when the

weight is gone.

Even this may not happen . . . It depends on your

tissue and the pressure the implant has put on them.

Some women have been upset at the immediate results,

but within a very short time they start fluffing, and

look fine.

The amount of breast tissue you might lose is very

small. Compared to the illness you are experiencing,

it's NOTHING!

My nephew's wife had a breast reduction, and within 18

months returned to almost the size she was before. . .

Whether it's because of weight gain, hormones or

fluffing, I don't know. . . She may have gained had a

little, but very little!

Check the photos in our archive section. You have

nothing to fear!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Shana, regarding " concave " , I'm 27 days post-op explant. The concave

I experienced after surgery is very much as Rogene mentioned, that the

breast tissue was much like a " cushion " that had been flattened for

years by the implants. My nipples were kind of concave at the

incision lines, and the breasts were droopy and sad looking. I really

couldn't believe the ladies on the site who assured me that I

would " fluff " after the surgery. My breasts ARE looking better every

day!!! I have begun to fill out again, and the nipples are returning

to normal again. The incision lines are filling out, and the concave

is almost non-existent.

Be encouraged! The surgeons on the recommended list are so talented.

I trusted my surgeon, and I'm so happy just 27 days after having the

implants out...I can tell I'm returning to a natural form and I'm all

softy and fluffy! Walk through that fear....J

[Guest guest]

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Shana

I think you will be fine. I was very flat before getting explants.

Lets just say that I wore a 34AA padded bra and I didn't even fit

that. Truly, I had nothing. AFter explant, when I first peeked

under the bandages, I was concave looking. I cried and cried. But

by 3 weeks later, I was back to the same size that I had been before

I ever got implants. I hadn't lost anything. (like there was

something to lose!) The only problem I had, and I seem to be the

only one that I am aware of, is that I think I should have gotten a

lift or something. The skin over my breasts was stretched a liitle

too much from the implants and therefore I should have had something

else done--not sure what. I was concentrating on getting better and

havent been back to the ps to see what can be done about it. At

some point in the future, I will probably see about it, but for the

most part I am pleased with my outcome. I am positive you won't be

concave and it is very rare to have necrosis. I wouldn't even worry

about it. MOst of the women on this site had all kinds of worries

and concerns prior to explant, and then they realize how unfounded

they are later. Most women are pretty happy with their outcome.

Hugs

kathy

-- In , " kingmashana "

<shanakingma@h...> wrote:

>

> I'm so scared! this is the first time I've heard that you can

actually

> look CONCAVE after surgery! Is that true? I have explant

scheduled

> soon with capsulectomy (with my original PS) and I have VERY

LITTLE

> breast tissue. My PS is a little concerned that I could lose a

little

> bit in the capsulectomy. But mine are under the muscle so that

should

> help. Also he warned of a higher possibility of blood flow

problems

> (to the remaining breast tissue) with a capsulectomy. Has anyone

ever

> heard of that? I was sooo small to begin with, I hope I don't come

out

> concave....I don't know what I would do. I know I have to get

> explanted...I have severe autoimmune problems after only having

them

> for 14 months. But I don't want to end up worse than when I

started:(

> Shana

[Guest guest]

shana

Please do not worry - this is normal for recent explants.... I was very small before my implants and also freaked out 2 years ago when the were removed.... within a few months they "fluffed" back out and now I am actually a little bigger than before (of course I weigh a little more, too!) Give it a few months and I am sure you will feel much better about it!!

it has happened to everyone i know - the body needs time to put stuff back in the right place after those nasty implants squashed everything!!

love

shari

[Guest guest]

If you don't mind me asking...did you go to one of the famous PS's on

the site, or did you choose a different one for your explant? Shana---

In , " crazycanoe1 " <crazycanoe1@y...>

wrote:

>

> Shana, regarding " concave " , I'm 27 days post-op explant. The concave

> I experienced after surgery is very much as Rogene mentioned, that

the

> breast tissue was much like a " cushion " that had been flattened for

> years by the implants. My nipples were kind of concave at the

> incision lines, and the breasts were droopy and sad looking. I

really

> couldn't believe the ladies on the site who assured me that I

> would " fluff " after the surgery. My breasts ARE looking better every

> day!!! I have begun to fill out again, and the nipples are returning

> to normal again. The incision lines are filling out, and the concave

> is almost non-existent.

> Be encouraged! The surgeons on the recommended list are so talented.

> I trusted my surgeon, and I'm so happy just 27 days after having the

> implants out...I can tell I'm returning to a natural form and I'm all

> softy and fluffy! Walk through that fear....J

[Guest guest]

Shana, please try not to worry. I had my explantation on March 17th, and am AMAZED at how good they look! When I first had them removed, like Rogene stated, they looked like a flat tire. I was so scared and disappointed, but knew that my health came first. I also had a nipple reduction and a full lift. My scars are healing well, and fading slowly. My nipples almost look like normal, and though the scars underneath my breasts are still a little red, they are fading slowly, and are hardly noticable as my breasts cover them. Due to a slight weight gain (and maybe some stretching from the implants, as well as the lift) I am a full cup size larger than I was before my implant! I was a B cup, the implants made me a D cup, and I am now a small C cup. Like Rogene mentioned, they fluffed for me, and now look very similar to the way they looked pre-implant. The wonderful difference is that they are all

mine!!! I love the way they feel, and it is so wonderful to feel HEALTHY again! Even if they didn't turn out perfect (which by all means they are not) I would still be so glad I did it, because I have my health back! I don't have to worry about them hardening anymore, and with detoxing, my symptoms have almost been totally eliminated!

Also, just wanted to let you know that I also used the PS that did my implantation. Like you, he was very supportive of my explantation and I completely trusted him. The possible complication of concaving was also in the huge disclaimer pre op that I had to sign, but so were all the other possible complications. I think they warn you of that to cover themselves, just like they do with all the other possible complications that occur. I think concaving, though always possible, is very rare, so please try not to worry about it. Based on the symptoms you have described, you are risking your health much more by leaving your implants in than in having concaving. In my opinion, if you trust your PS, you should be fine! Try not to worry so much, and concentrate on getting healthy. crazycanoe1 <crazycanoe1@...> wrote:

Shana, regarding "concave", I'm 27 days post-op explant. The concave I experienced after surgery is very much as Rogene mentioned, that the breast tissue was much like a "cushion" that had been flattened for years by the implants. My nipples were kind of concave at the incision lines, and the breasts were droopy and sad looking. I really couldn't believe the ladies on the site who assured me that I would "fluff" after the surgery. My breasts ARE looking better every day!!! I have begun to fill out again, and the nipples are returning to normal again. The incision lines are filling out, and the concave is almost non-existent.Be encouraged! The surgeons on the recommended list are so talented. I trusted my surgeon, and I'm so happy just 27 days after having the implants out...I can tell I'm

returning to a natural form and I'm all softy and fluffy! Walk through that fear....JOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

,

We are always looking for plastic surgeons who will do

the job right. . . Would you talk to your plastic

surgeon and get a committment to remove women's

implants en bloc, with drains? . . . We would love to

add him to our recommended docs list!

Love,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Shana,

Jackie went to Dr. Melmed . . . She calls him her

Hero! He's a very good man, as well as doctor. He was

the plastic surgeon who stood up for us before the FDA

panel a couple weeks ago - as well as other times.

However, removing implants isn't exactly rocket

science. It does take more time and skill than simply

slitting the capsule and popping the implant out

though! One telling feature of a doctor's intentions

is that proper explant removal is done in a hospital

or day surgery center. Doctors who pop them out will

use their surgical suite. Proper surgery will run into

more time - sometimes many hours . . . Popping them

out runs about an hour.

If your doctor will commit to removing your implants

properly, there is no reason why you should travel

across the country to another doctor. Do talk to your

doctor about your concerns. If you feel he's being

straight with you and you feel comfortable with him

then go with him.

If you do go out of area, check your insurance first .

.. . Some policies insure only in a given area.

BTW, have you been tested for toxic shock? I'm

suspicious that, when all other tests are negative,

this is what we're dealing with.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Absolutely! I will draft a letter and fax it to him, as well as sending him a hard copy. Though he won't completely admit that the cause of my illness is a result of the implants, he performs explanations en bloc, with drains, and did wonderful work on me!

Will keep you posted.

CristinaRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

,We are always looking for plastic surgeons who will dothe job right. . . Would you talk to your plasticsurgeon and get a committment to remove women'simplants en bloc, with drains? . . . We would love toadd him to our recommended docs list!Love,RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)