Re: Interesting breast milk collection product

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Yes,

cool product. I've been selling them since Sept. 2009. They don't move

very quickly in my setting though, because I do home visits and don't have a brick and mortar store.

Cheryl To: OBNURSES ; NICUnurses ; ; IBCLC2B ; IBCLC Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:35 PM Subject: Interesting breast milk collection product

http://www.mymilkies.com/ It fits inside a bra.

Gail Neuman RNC BSN CPHW, Notary Publiccertified in high risk OBchildbirth/lactation educator & student nurse practitionerNRP, AHA BLS for Healthcare & Heartsaver Family/Friends instructor Perinatal Nurse AssociatesBaby Your Way Midwifery Associates801 N. Tustin Ave., Suite 305Santa Ana, CA 92705

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Right, I decided to carry them because of my experiences in the first few months. I would use multiple breast pads and finally put a dish towel then downsized to a hand towel inside of my bra (or manipulate bath towel placement if I fed without a bra). I had so much milk release on one side or the other as I let down for nursing. I wish I would have had this product. I thought there might be lots of moms like me. Needless to say, many moms I see are struggling with low supply so they haven't had the same need.Cheryl To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:51 AM Subject: Re: Interesting breast milk collection product

This product (which slips inside the bra to collect leakage from the other side while feeding, or I guess, while single pumping) doesn't seem worth the money, except in very special circumstances. (I did have one woman who didn't seem to have any effective nipple sphincters and just poured milk, and this would have kept her from being soaked, rather than needing to save the milk.) Someone who leaks like crazy probably isn't someone who is battling for every drop of milk. (And maybe in happy situations, we need to promote a more casual attitude -- "plenty more where that came from.") People who are pumping seriously aren't doing one-side at a time.

I don't think it's supposed to be used to accumulate across multiple feeds, and, past the early weeks, it's hard to picture enough drip milk (which is lower in fat) to be worth it -- particularly in low-production situations. The site suggests using the small amounts to mix with solids, but at six months, most people aren't leaking like that.

Margaret Wills, land

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> _http://www.mymilkies.com/_ (http://www.mymilkies.com/) It fits inside a

> bra.

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> Gail Neuman RNC BSN CPHW, Notary Public

> certified in high risk OB

> childbirth/lactation educator & student nurse practitioner

> NRP, AHA BLS for Healthcare & Heartsaver Family/Friends instructor

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> Perinatal Nurse Associates

> Baby Your Way Midwifery Associates

> 801 N. Tustin Ave., Suite 305

> Santa Ana, CA 92705_ _ (tel:(714)%20337-7979)

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I have a question for you, Cheryl. Would you get plugged ducts and/or mastitis if you turned off the letdown in the breast you weren't using? I see so many mothers who let that wonderful milk go in a pad, where it can't get to baby. I had a strong letdown and letdown always happens in both breasts at the same time. When I felt letdown coming, I simply pressed the flat of my wrist against my nipple, and pressed back toward the chest wall and held it until the tingling stopped. Then I could let go and that breast wouldn't leak at that point. Used a lot of pads in the first two months with baby #1 until I figured it out. Didn't need a single pad with baby #2, even though I still had a very strong letdown. Eventually put the unopened box of bra pads that I had purchased during the pregnancy, on a yard sale.

Saved a lot of money not needing pads. And I've taught a lot of mothers that trick over the years. Just a very few would begin to develop plugged ducts so couldn't use the trick.

Dee Kassing

Right, I decided to carry them because of my experiences in the first few months. I would use multiple breast pads and finally put a dish towel then downsized to a hand towel inside of my bra (or manipulate bath towel placement if I fed without a bra). I had so much milk release on one side or the other as I let down for nursing. I wish I would have had this product. I thought there might be lots of moms like me. Needless to say, many moms I see are struggling with low supply so they haven't had the same need.

Cheryl

To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:51 AMSubject: Re: Interesting breast milk collection product

This product (which slips inside the bra to collect leakage from the other side while feeding, or I guess, while single pumping) doesn't seem worth the money, except in very special circumstances. (I did have one woman who didn't seem to have any effective nipple sphincters and just poured milk, and this would have kept her from being soaked, rather than needing to save the milk.) Someone who leaks like crazy probably isn't someone who is battling for every drop of milk. (And maybe in happy situations, we need to promote a more casual attitude -- "plenty more where that came from.") People who are pumping seriously aren't doing one-side at a time.I don't think it's supposed to be used to accumulate across multiple feeds, and, past the early weeks, it's hard to picture enough drip milk (which is lower in fat) to be worth it -- particularly in low-production situations. The site suggests using the small amounts to mix with solids, but at six

months, most people aren't leaking like that.Margaret Wills, land>> _http://www.mymilkies.com/_ (http://www.mymilkies.com/) It fits inside a > bra.> > > > Gail Neuman RNC BSN CPHW, Notary Public> certified in high risk OB> childbirth/lactation educator & student nurse practitioner> NRP, AHA BLS for Healthcare & Heartsaver Family/Friends instructor > > Perinatal Nurse Associates> Baby Your Way Midwifery Associates> 801 N. Tustin Ave., Suite 305> Santa Ana, CA 92705_ _ (tel:(714)%20337-7979)>

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let down always happens bi laterally because the oxytocin is released into the bloodstream. it goes all over!! Beebe, M.Ed., IBCLC Lactation Consultant/Postpartum Doula www.second9months.comwww.facebook.com/thesecond9months.--- Subject: Re: Re:

Interesting breast milk collection productTo: Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 9:35 AM

I have a question for you, Cheryl. Would you get plugged ducts and/or mastitis if you turned off the letdown in the breast you weren't using? I see so many mothers who let that wonderful milk go in a pad, where it can't get to baby. I had a strong letdown and letdown always happens in both breasts at the same time. When I felt letdown coming, I simply pressed the flat of my wrist against my nipple, and pressed back toward the chest wall and held it until the tingling stopped. Then I could let go and that breast wouldn't leak at that point. Used a lot of pads in the first two months with baby #1 until I figured it out. Didn't need a single pad with baby #2, even though I still had a very strong letdown. Eventually put the unopened box of bra pads that I had purchased during the pregnancy, on a

yard sale.

Saved a lot of money not needing pads. And I've taught a lot of mothers that trick over the years. Just a very few would begin to develop plugged ducts so couldn't use the trick.

Dee Kassing

Right, I decided to carry them because of my experiences in the first few months. I would use multiple breast pads and finally put a dish towel then downsized to a hand towel inside of my bra (or manipulate bath towel placement if I fed without a bra). I had so much milk release on one side or the other as I let down for nursing. I wish I would have had this product. I thought there might be lots of moms like me. Needless to say, many moms I see are struggling with low supply so they haven't had the same need.

Cheryl

To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:51 AMSubject: Re: Interesting breast milk collection product

This product (which slips inside the bra to collect leakage from the other side while feeding, or I guess, while single pumping) doesn't seem worth the money, except in very special circumstances. (I did have one woman who didn't seem to have any effective nipple sphincters and just poured milk, and this would have kept her from being soaked, rather than needing to save the milk.) Someone who leaks like crazy probably isn't someone who is battling for every drop of milk. (And maybe in happy situations, we need to promote a more casual attitude -- "plenty more where that came from.") People who are pumping seriously aren't doing one-side at a time.I don't think it's supposed to be used to accumulate across multiple feeds, and, past the early weeks, it's hard to picture enough drip milk (which is lower in fat) to be worth it -- particularly in low-production situations. The site suggests using the small amounts to mix with solids, but at six

months, most people aren't leaking like that.Margaret Wills, land>> _http://www.mymilkies.com/_ (http://www.mymilkies.com/) It fits inside a > bra.> > > > Gail Neuman RNC BSN CPHW, Notary Public> certified in high risk OB> childbirth/lactation educator & student nurse practitioner> NRP, AHA BLS for Healthcare & Heartsaver Family/Friends instructor > > Perinatal Nurse Associates> Baby Your Way Midwifery Associates> 801 N. Tustin Ave., Suite 305> Santa Ana, CA 92705_ _ (tel:(714)%20337-7979)>

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Don't remember the cause but I did get mastitis and plugged ducts at times. I think once I went back to work was when I would cross my arms across my chest and that's when I got a terrible case of mastitis and suffered with blebs and plugged ducts for some time. But my employer was also not allowing me to pump. At home I probably held the pads a little more snuggly sometimes and when I learned of pressing on the nipple I probably did it, but it's been since 1995 so I just remember my heavy letdowns. cheryl To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: Interesting breast milk collection product

Right! I let baby nurse on breast #1 and pressed the nipple of the un-nursed breast back into the breast to stop that leaking until the letdown eased. Letdown would occur in breast #1 when I put baby to breast #2, but since the milk had all been emptied, there wasn't anything to come gushing out when baby was on breast #2. I only had to worry about it on breast #1, *or* on both breasts, such as if I went to grocery store and someone *else's* baby cried, causing my milk to let down.

Dee

Right, I decided to carry them because of my experiences in the first few months. I would use multiple breast pads and finally put a dish towel then downsized to a hand towel inside of my bra (or manipulate bath towel placement if I fed without a bra). I had so much milk release on one side or the other as I let down for nursing. I wish I would have had this product. I thought there might be lots of moms like me. Needless to say, many moms I see are struggling with low supply so they haven't had the same need.

Cheryl

To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:51 AMSubject: Re: Interesting breast milk collection product

This product (which slips inside the bra to collect leakage from the other side while feeding, or I guess, while single pumping) doesn't seem worth the money, except in very special circumstances. (I did have one woman who didn't seem to have any effective nipple sphincters and just poured milk, and this would have kept her from being soaked, rather than needing to save the milk.) Someone who leaks like crazy probably isn't someone who is battling for every drop of milk. (And maybe in happy situations, we need to promote a more casual attitude -- "plenty more where that came from.") People who are pumping seriously aren't doing one-side at a time.I don't think it's supposed to be used to accumulate across multiple feeds, and, past the early weeks, it's hard to picture enough drip milk (which is lower in fat) to be worth it -- particularly in low-production situations. The site suggests using the small amounts to mix with solids, but at six

months, most people aren't leaking like that.Margaret Wills, land>> _http://www.mymilkies.com/_ (http://www.mymilkies.com/) It fits inside a > bra.> > > > Gail Neuman RNC BSN CPHW, Notary Public> certified in high risk OB> childbirth/lactation educator & student nurse practitioner> NRP, AHA BLS for Healthcare & Heartsaver Family/Friends instructor > > Perinatal Nurse Associates> Baby Your Way Midwifery Associates> 801 N. Tustin Ave., Suite 305> Santa Ana, CA 92705_ _

(tel:(714)%20337-7979)>

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Dee, I know you asked Cheryl this question, but in my case, yes, the leaking was an important “safety release valve.” I had definite oversupply and if I would try to inhibit the leaking too much, I would start to get plugs. Plus, my letdowns were quite painful in the first few months and stopping them would have been unbearable to me because it would happen again in a few minutes—better to just get through that first big one and feel better. So, inhibiting the letdown may work for some mothers, but others of us were just happy to stick cloth diapers in our bras at every feeding (never felt like I wanted to save the milk—had too much already!). Becky , IBCLC

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Not allowed to pump. Ugh! No wonder you got mastitis! Lots of difference between just "turning off" the letdown until you put baby on the second side, and trying to turn off the letdown because you are overly full from being forced to go too long without emptying your breasts.

Dee Kassing

Don't remember the cause but I did get mastitis and plugged ducts at times. I think once I went back to work was when I would cross my arms across my chest and that's when I got a terrible case of mastitis and suffered with blebs and plugged ducts for some time. But my employer was also not allowing me to pump. At home I probably held the pads a little more snuggly sometimes and when I learned of pressing on the nipple I probably did it, but it's been since 1995 so I just remember my heavy letdowns.

cheryl

Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Interesting breast milk collection product

Right! I let baby nurse on breast #1 and pressed the nipple of the un-nursed breast back into the breast to stop that leaking until the letdown eased. Letdown would occur in breast #1 when I put baby to breast #2, but since the milk had all been emptied, there wasn't anything to come gushing out when baby was on breast #2. I only had to worry about it on breast #1, *or* on both breasts, such as if I went to grocery store and someone *else's* baby cried, causing my milk to let down.

Dee ---

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Hi, Becky.

Yeah, I know that some moms can't use that trick without getting into some kind of trouble. That's why I asked her if she had trouble with plugs and mastitis. Some of the mothers I suggest it to can't do it either.

DeeDee, I know you asked Cheryl this question, but in my case, yes, the leaking was an important “safety release valve.†I had definite oversupply and if I would try to inhibit the leaking too much, I would start to get plugs. Plus, my letdowns were quite painful in the first few months and stopping them would have been unbearable to me because it would happen again in a few minutes—better to just get through that first big one and feel better. So, inhibiting the letdown may work for some mothers, but others of us were just happy to stick cloth diapers in our bras at every feeding (never felt like I wanted to save the milk—had too much already!).

Becky , IBCLC

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On a side note – I could never use this technique because it wouldn’t work. It would sometimes slow but many times I would have milk leaking through the cloth bra pads, bra, nursing shirt (double layered) and through my fingers. But I never got plugged ducts from it.

Felicia Henry, BCCE, IBCLC

Oxnard, CA

From: Dee Kassing

Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:17 PM

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Subject: RE: Re: Interesting breast milk collection product

Hi, Becky.

Yeah, I know that some moms can't use that trick without getting into some kind of trouble. That's why I asked her if she had trouble with plugs and mastitis. Some of the mothers I suggest it to can't do it either.

DeeDee, I know you asked Cheryl this question, but in my case, yes, the leaking was an important “safety release valve.†I had definite oversupply and if I would try to inhibit the leaking too much, I would start to get plugs. Plus, my letdowns were quite painful in the first few months and stopping them would have been unbearable to me because it would happen again in a few minutes—better to just get through that first big one and feel better. So, inhibiting the letdown may work for some mothers, but others of us were just happy to stick cloth diapers in our bras at every feeding (never felt like I wanted to save the milk—had too much already!).

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Gail... wrote:

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> _http://www.mymilkies.com/_ (http://www.mymilkies.com/) It fits inside a

> bra.

We actually sell these at our hospital. For mom's who are " leakers " they are

super. I had one mom who used it after her milk came in, and she " leaked "

herself about 70 oz in less than 2 weeks. It really helped her make her less

anxious about her stash. You may still be able to contact the business and get a

sample.

Dalton

Louisiana

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I also carry Milkies. They're not a huge seller, but I've heard raves from moms who want to have a bottle or two of milk in the freezer in case of emergency, but don't want to buy a pump.  It's cheaper and easier and gives them some peace of mind.  

Another client who was returning to work at 6 wks PP used Milkies in the early days to help pad her freezer stash.  They're certainly not on any 'every mom needs this' list, but they can be useful for the mom who wants them.  

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Follow along on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/Stylin_MommaOn Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Dee Kassing wrote:

 

Hi, Becky.

  Yeah, I know that some moms can't use that trick without getting into some kind of trouble.  That's why I asked her if she had trouble with plugs and mastitis.  Some of the mothers I suggest it to can't do it either.

   DeeDee, I know you asked Cheryl this question, but in my case, yes, the leaking was an important “safety release valve.”  I had definite oversupply and if I would try to inhibit the leaking too much, I would start to get plugs.  Plus, my letdowns were quite painful in the first few months and stopping them would have been unbearable to me because it would happen again in a few minutes—better to just get through that first big one and feel better.  So, inhibiting the letdown may work for some mothers, but others of us were just happy to stick cloth diapers in our bras at every feeding (never felt like I wanted to save the milk—had too much already!).

 

Becky , IBCLC

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Hi All:

I gave my 'sample' to my 38 yr. old daughter to try. She loves it and

advises that it is most useful during the first 3 months.; she would catch her

let down when nursing on the other side and says she could easily collect 2

oz. This works great for her, as she hates being attached to a pump, but could

store the extra in the freezer. She is usually able to come home for lunch

and nurse, but the freezer stache gives her some security.

Niki Konchar, IBCLC </HTML>