RE: Re: Hi, I'm new to the group.

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saline implants have silicone shells did you know that i had a double mascetomy and silicone implants put in with silicone shell 2 days later i fewlt the same way you did but now 1 1/2 yrs later no one still believes its the implants because they are not leaking maybe some people are allergic to silicone in general and the shells are doing it i even went to may clinic and they said NO way its the implants well i havent had them out because i cant prove it is the implants mentor corp the makers of these sent me a silicone implant in the mail to take to a dr for testing well i cant find a dr who knows what to do with this implant thanks for your satory gerri p.

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Shana, I have stiff joints and swelling, in my fingers, hands and feet. I had a positve inflammatory markers, as well as a high C reaction protein and exhibited all the symtpoms, fatigue , and joint swelling mostly in the am. I was then diagnosed by a rhuemy at 26 with that,, and thyroid disease. I chose not to go on their meds, and got explanted, I also went on the www.roadback.com.

They have a wonderful protocol for RA, and other disease triggered by the belief that infection, esp Mycoplasmal infections, of which I tested positve for-bury deep within the tissues and cause inflammatory diseases. I then went on an low dose antibiotic therapy for it, for over a year to get to that infection, and now am RA free. I believe the implants casued this infection, and also the inflammatory response.

Getting them out ,enabled my body the strength to then take on therapies and get welll. They truely were a huge burden on my immnue system. But for some, getting them out is the 1st step, then you must deal with the chaos and inbalances they left behind to get truely well. Does that makes sense? KAthy also have wonderful info on this as well. Love julie

>From: "kingmashana" <shanakingma@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Hi, I'm new to the group. >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:49:24 -0000 > >WI? Is that right? Anyway, did you test positive for RA? That is my >situation right now. I tested VERY positive for RA (pain is especially >bad in my shoulders and feet/toes) I want so badly for explantation to >help. I was completely healthy one year ago when I was implanted...now >I'm staring at over $1500/monthly in prescriptions alone. I am only 29 >years old!! My rheumy says I could be disabled in 2 years. Did your RA >completely regress? What did your doctors say about it? Just >wanting/needing to know.....Thanks, Shana > > > > > > > >

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jen,

how long did it take for your muscle pains to go away? did they test you for fm? but you said that you thought you had fm for awhile. what did you do for the pain? and none of it has ever come back? did your ps tell you anything about the muscle pain? and you think that is just they way your body is healing from all of this?

lizcnjcramer <cnjcramer@...> wrote:

Welcome , here's my story..I just turned 24 & had a 1yr old son, I never had any symptoms or problems with my health, but on Jan 30, 2004 I got smooth saline implants & 2wks after my surgery is when it all started....panic/anxiety attacks, extreme lightheadedness, sinus/eye pressure, constant flu-like feelings, heart palpations, burning zaps thruout my body, hands/feet ached, weird tingling thruout my body, extreme fatigue, red blotches in my eyes, chest pain, internal vibrating or shaking feeling, sharp achey pains thruout, parts of my body would feel like they were "asleep" a feeling of weakness in my left arm, then later my legs, I could go on & on with the symptoms I had, everyday it was a new symptom that came about, after going from Dr to Dr, having tests done on me, several ER visits,

and everytime a Dr would tell me, no its not your implants, but we don't know what else is going on with you. I knew that for me that wasn't normal since I had always lived a life of perfect health, so 6 months later On Aug 12, 2004 I had them out by my original PS & I left my capsules in. I just wanted them out! Its been quite a few months since my explant & I felt better instantly with some of my symptoms, but it has been a long road for the other of my symptoms, I have been detoxing, drinking lots of water, taking supplements & I'm under the care of a wonderful Naturopathic Dr. You will get your health back, but its going to take some time. I was very ill very quickly its amazing how ill saline implants can make you. Sorry that was so long but I wanted to share my situation with you!! , "carrielynnfrank" <legalgrl@h...> wrote:> >

Hello everyone, hmmm...I've only read a few of the messages and > right now I am wishing I could have someone take my implants out > NOW. I had saline textured implants put in in June of 1998 and was > doing relatively well until May of 2001. That's when my joint pain > started in my hands. It was horrible, I couldn't even grab the > steering wheel to drive. Of course, the docs started doing a > battery of tests after complaining about joing pain for a few > months. I was tested for RA, Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Sjorden's (sp?) > disease, oral cancer (more recently), CFS, and most of the time I > just felt like my doctor's thought I was a hypochondriac. I > presented symptoms from each one of these diseases, but my blood > work always comes back okay. How frustrating...> > I've had two boys since my implants and luckily, so far, they have >

been fine. Surprisingly, my pain decreases while pregnant, which I > guess is somewhat normal for autoimmune disorders. However, during > my last pregnancy, I could tell that my pain wasn't decreasing as > much as it did during my first. > > A year after my implants were put in, I noticed a bump in the upper > right corner of my breast. Of course, I thought, "it's a tumor", > but it turned out that it was my breast implant and that it > was "folded", however, ultrasounds showed that it was not leaking. > It doesn't really hurt and it's not noticeable unless I put your > finger on it, but I knew it couldn't be that great of a sign. So, > in denial that something was wrong with my beautiful new bust, I > have never had anything done to fix them. I've just lived with them > for the last 7 years. > > Here are my

current symptoms: Joint pain in hands, wrists, hairloss > (pregnancy? I'm four months post-partum), rash on my upper arms, > and most troubling, my tongue is peeling from the sides and the > tip. I have constant canker sores on the sides of my tongue and it > runs a cycle thoroughout the month. That is why I was tested for > oral cancer, in which, thankfully, no cancerous cells were found. > > Just reading some of these stories made my breast hurt. Not to > sound cheesy, but I know and have known for some time, that I need > an extraction. Money was probably the biggest factor. I don't > really have the money to have them extracted. > > Now that I have two beautiful boys, I realize the importance of > having my implants removed. I hope that my symptoms would subside > after having them removed, however, I know that is

not always the > case, but I think I'll give myself a better chance by having them > removed than leaving them in.> > Anyway, really I just wanted to say hi. I have a consult with my > doctor on May 12th. I really hope he understands where I'm coming > from with my decision. Can someone tell me exactly what I need to > tell him to do as far as what to remove? Also, has anyone else > experienced problems with their tongue? > > Thanks,> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." -

Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Gerri,

Welcome to the group. Brace yourself for a lot of

information and loving support! This is an incredible

group!

You're the third woman who's written in the past

couple weeks that Mentor has sent her an implant for

testing. Did they tell you what kind of testing your

doctor could do with it? Supposedly those babies are

worth several hundred dollars! . . . Sounds like

they're treating them like the junk they are! This is

crazy? . . . Maybe the originator of this idea has a

silicone brain implant!

If you will take a few hours to review information in

the archives of this group, I think you will be able

to gather enough information to satisfy your insurance

company that your implants MUST come out.

Click on the first link below, then on Messages. You

can use key words to search the archives. . . . Look

for " Dr. Blais " . . . " ionized platnimum " . . .

If you've been having a lot of medical bills, your

insurance company should realize that keeping your

implants in you is going to cost them more money than

removing them. You're welcome to refer them to this

group if you'd like. We have so many success stories

of women getting better, that alone should convince

them.

Even if they decline . . . get a committment from them

to pay for explant if Dr. Blais should discover

dangerous bacteria in them after they are explanted.

Shari was able to get her insurance to pay this way.

Some of the ladies are gearing up to sue Mentor . . .

If you think you may, you will want Dr. Blais to

inspect your implants anyway. You can find some

attorneys to talk to by doing an online search for

" breast implant attorney " , or words to that effect.

Mentor produced an implant with a defective valve,

even after they knew it was defective!

Hope this helps . . . If there's anything we can help

you with, let us now!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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