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There are always two sides to any issue. Carol Mass has chosen to ignore

our side. I recommend you do like her but in reverse, chose to ignore her

side. This way it won't bother you as much !

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> #3. Oprah. I'm guessing no one watched this week cos I hear no one

> screaming. I think it was Thursday t hat she had Carol Mass on. She is

> the woman who wrote " Why people don't heal " . Being familiar with the

> book I imediately turned it off.

> She believes that all of our illnesses are caused by unresolved issues.

> You know the kind... The problem is that she has FMS and basically told

> all of the viewers that we are choosing to remain sick. See we don't

> heal cos we benefit from remaining ill. See we finally get mentioned on

> Oprah and it's negative!!!!

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Regarding Oprah show you spoke about:

Seems to me when anyone uses the words " all " and " every " they aren't

referring to me. I don't choose to live in pain, and I certainly don't

think that my problems unresolved problems with my father when I was a

teenager over 30 years ago is to blame for my Reiters

Syndrome/Spondylitis. Most discernable diseases have physical or

biological processes as the cause. Yes, stress plays its part, and,

Yes, some folks get better when they work through some unresolved

issues, but I don't think that will apply to " every " or " all " persons.

I guess you have to arrogant in order to sell books. If I had been

watching the show, I'd have turned it off, too.

Ray

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I can't just ignore that woman on Oprah. Fibromyalgia is still

considered a new disease. It is difficult to dx and for years thousands

of us have been told it's all in our head and if we just relaxed we

would be better. We are finally at a point were the medical community

is starting to believe in it's existence and is starting to do research.

So to have someone come on tv and say that it's caused by our past sets

our healing process back. This woman is dangerous, we don't want to be

sent back to psychiatrists to see what is unresolved, I want to see a

doctor or a physical therapist.

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Although I realize that whatever this gal on Oprah said was pretty

upsetting...sure sounds like it was off the wall AND sounds like she's just

out to sell her book, I also can't keep quiet any longer on this. There IS

a link to FMS and our emotional health. There's a link to our TOTAL

physical health and our emotional health. This is something that's largely

been ignored for quite awhile and now some doctors seem to be 'discovering'

this! Mind you, I'm not saying that FMS is caused ONLY by emotional

problems and to say that and dismiss the patient to a

psychiatrist/psychologist is not the answer. However, for a doctor to

ignore the emotional side of any illness, whether the emotional problems are

caused by the fact that we don't feel well or if they were there before we

started feeling physically ill, is wrong. I have FMS. Mine most likely was

set off by the fact that I have chronic pain, it never ends, due to a spine

injury and surgery...and now arthritis and another disc herniation.

However, I see a definite link between my emotional well-being and my FMS

symptoms. Unresolved issues often mean anger, especially anger that is not

expressed in any manner. My FMS symptoms went off the board after my Mom

died. Not really because of the grieving for the loss of my Mom (I know

she's happy and no longer suffering from osteoarthritis) but largely because

of the bringing to a head the fact that my sister abuses alcohol and I

finally, about a month and a half BEFORE my Mom died, told sister that I

could no longer accept the abusive behavior she displayed when drinking.

She severed all communication with me. The relationship with my sister has

been changed DRAMATICALLY since then and wham..my FMS symptoms went haywire.

As I started, at the beginning of the Summer and especially after Labor Day

weekend, to come to a resolution about this issue I note my FMS symptoms

receding quite a bit. Coincidence?? I think not.

So... I agree that it's a darn shame that this gal was on Oprah blabbing

away about FMS and making it sound like anyone with FMS is a 'head-case'. I

also can't ignore that there is, deep in there, some truth to her

observations. A good doctor will dx FMS carefully and treat the patient as

best as possible with medications and whatever treatments she feels will

help but I would not feel that it's out of place for a Dr. to suggest that a

FMS patient also look inside themselves, with or without professional help,

to make sure they're emotional health is taken care of.

Ya know... as far as I'm concerned about Oprah, anyone who watches that

show and takes whatever the guests have to say as the gospel truth needs a

reality check anyway. I'm not singling out Ophrah...... the whole media

circus we have today, TV, print, the web, and gobs of self-help books, needs

to be taken, if taken at all, with a HUGE grain of salt. So I wouldn't

worry TOO much about this gal's coverage on the show.

CULater,

Ruthie

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I didn't see Oprah, but I have been reading all the posts today about

this. THere is a middle line here. Stress does cause flare ups, and it

has been shown that many fibro and arthritis patients latent disease did

become active due to a psychological trauma. It just can't be

generalized either way. We have to be careful how it is worded and how

it is explored.But the stress factor, and the emotional factor cannot

be discounted either. When I am under stress all my body functions leap

in to action, including my pain and disease. Do I think it was caused by

the stress,no, but it certainly does accelerate it.

Lyn

" We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking up at the stars. "

Wilde

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