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Ive always been a night owl. Except now I have to nap after dinner

and usually fall asleep in front of tv for an hour or two before Im

up again. Heck Ill probably go lay down for awhile now and be back up

around 3 for an hour and then sleep in till about 9. Its a strange

life. zzzzzzzzzzzz to you too. Debra

>

> I noticed tonight, that some of us stay up pretty late.

> (11:20 PM Pacific Time for me)

> On Fridays, I'm usually up a little later. My daughter drops off

> around 7 or 8 and I'm free as a bird after that! I may even get to

> watch Soprano's or something!

>

> Tonight I was working on " work " stuff and couldn't help see how many

> were still posting. Now, I'm on the West Coast so I know Bobby is up

> way late.

>

> Are there many night owls like me? Even on work nights I'm usually

up

> through midnight or at least until Jay Leno.

>

> I guess my question is, are many of us up late at night?

>

> All the Best....zzzzzz,

>

> MaC

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I am a night owl too, always up until midnight sometimes until 2 and some

nights I just don't get much sleep. When I first found out all the problems

I had, it was even worse. I didn't even try to sleep until about 4 AM.

Then I would sleep til noon. I also have neuropathy in hands, arms, legs

and feet, and sometimes sciatic nerve problems. Even the little aches would

be just enough to keep me from sleeping if I went to bed and tried to

sleep. Lately my restless leg has been bothering me me, either keeping me

awake or waking me up after I get to sleep. I don't even try to sleep in a

bed any more. Just sleep in the recliner, and I find that I don't wake up

as much at night, only have to go to the bathroom once instead of two or

three times. I have read articles that say that people who have serious

life threatening illnesses are apt to follow a similar pattern. And from

what I could understand, it isn't necessarily nerves, concern that keeps us

awake. It is really funny, but I can sleep through the pain of an incision,

but the little pains that come on are the ones that keep me awake and wake

me up. Seems weird. Jan

>

> Ive always been a night owl. Except now I have to nap after dinner

> and usually fall asleep in front of tv for an hour or two before Im

> up again. Heck Ill probably go lay down for awhile now and be back up

> around 3 for an hour and then sleep in till about 9. Its a strange

> life. zzzzzzzzzzzz to you too. Debra

>

>

> >

> > I noticed tonight, that some of us stay up pretty late.

> > (11:20 PM Pacific Time for me)

> > On Fridays, I'm usually up a little later. My daughter drops off

> > around 7 or 8 and I'm free as a bird after that! I may even get to

> > watch Soprano's or something!

> >

> > Tonight I was working on " work " stuff and couldn't help see how many

> > were still posting. Now, I'm on the West Coast so I know Bobby is up

> > way late.

> >

> > Are there many night owls like me? Even on work nights I'm usually

> up

> > through midnight or at least until Jay Leno.

> >

> > I guess my question is, are many of us up late at night?

> >

> > All the Best....zzzzzz,

> >

> > MaC

> >

>

>

>

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Jan H

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I’m not sure I’m exactly a night owl, but I do have a cycle longer than 24

hours and that affects mostly my “social” life!

It may be because all during the day there are interruptions and visits (all

welcome) and things that keep concentration either in spurts or

non-existent.

Another thing is when I’m “onto something” I can concentrate for many hours

until I am finished. Maybe that’s a bad habit at times, but otherwise,

something intervenes that I “have” to do and it is hard to get back to

something that is 3 layers down!

I love early morning for the spiritual (for lack of a better term)

atmosphere of awakening – birds, dawn, sunrise . . .

I’m in CST time zone – Alabama.

The decline in our standard of living may not be a sign of economic failure;

rather, it may be part of the cure for our economic ills. -- Hawken in

The Next Economy

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Night Owls?

Posted by: " MaC " mac0184@... mac0184

Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:22 pm ((PDT))

I noticed tonight, that some of us stay up pretty late.

(11:20 PM Pacific Time for me)

On Fridays, I'm usually up a little later. My daughter drops off around 7 or

8 and I'm free as a bird after that! I may even get to watch Soprano's or

something!

Tonight I was working on " work " stuff and couldn't help see how many were

still posting. Now, I'm on the West Coast so I know Bobby is up way late.

Are there many night owls like me? Even on work nights I'm usually up

through midnight or at least until Jay Leno.

I guess my question is, are many of us up late at night?

All the Best....zzzzzz,

MaC

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Not weird. If I didn’t read in bed, I would NEVER get to sleep. It isn’t

only life-threatening illnesses that cause strange sleep patterns. I learned

while I was teaching homebound students that ones with casts – from almost

whole-body casts to “mere” broken limbs – typically did not go to sleep

easily. They’d stay awake until overcome, usually late, and slept on into

the late day. It happened even if they were awakened early. The cycle went

on.

I have never needed much sleep until here lately. I can nap twice and still

sleep 12 hours. But that’s only sometimes.

The slightest eventful day tires me more than I would ever have imagined!

One short trip to the store just does me in. One period of traipsing about

with a congenial friend is almost more than I can take.

But I will not stop going whenever somebody rattles their keys and says,

“Let’s go”!

The decline in our standard of living may not be a sign of economic failure;

rather, it may be part of the cure for our economic ills. -- Hawken in

The Next Economy

- - - - -

Re: Night Owls?

Posted by: " Jan Holman " janholman@... arizonablackhat

Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:42 pm ((PDT))

I am a night owl too, always up until midnight sometimes until 2 and some

nights I just don't get much sleep. When I first found out all the problems

I had, it was even worse. I didn't even try to sleep until about 4 AM.

Then I would sleep til noon. I also have neuropathy in hands, arms, legs

and feet, and sometimes sciatic nerve problems. Even the little aches would

be just enough to keep me from sleeping if I went to bed and tried to sleep.

Lately my restless leg has been bothering me me, either keeping me awake or

waking me up after I get to sleep. I don't even try to sleep in a bed any

more. Just sleep in the recliner, and I find that I don't wake up as much

at night, only have to go to the bathroom once instead of two or three

times. I have read articles that say that people who have serious life

threatening illnesses are apt to follow a similar pattern. And from what I

could understand, it isn't necessarily nerves, concern that keeps us awake.

It is really funny, but I can sleep through the pain of an incision, but the

little pains that come on are the ones that keep me awake and wake me up.

Seems weird. Jan

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I do the sleeping to. Just try to accomplish what I can when I'm not

sleeping.

And the tired.... yuck. I was going to reply to Bob about the

grocery store and how it does him in, but I'll just do it here. If I

don't do it when I first get up it ain't going to happen. By

afternoon, even if I've had a nap, the idea of carrying that stuff in

is more than I can handle.

You have to plan to do everything. I try to plan grocery to

correspond with oldest son being at home, but with work and school

he's not home all that much. All the stuff I used to do without even

considering that it was part of the plan. That is THE most

frustrating thing to me of all the parts of being ill. Well, that

and the fact that I accomplish in a week what I used to accomplish in

1/2 a day.

Course there is a solution I have found to the grocery. It used to

be fast food, but that turns my stomach now. A person can only eat so

much fast food, uggh and I am such a good cook. The other solution

is don't eat. ( I am not recommending that for anyone else !)

>

> I have never needed much sleep until here lately. I can nap twice

and still

> sleep 12 hours. But that's only sometimes.

>

> The slightest eventful day tires me more than I would ever have

imagined!

> One short trip to the store just does me in. One period of

traipsing about

> with a congenial friend is almost more than I can take.

>

> But I will not stop going whenever somebody rattles their keys and

says,

> " Let's go " !

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The decline in our standard of living may not be a sign of economic

failure;

> rather, it may be part of the cure for our economic ills. --

Hawken in

> The Next Economy

>

> - - - - -

>

> Re: Night Owls?

>

> Posted by: " Jan Holman " janholman@... arizonablackhat

>

> Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:42 pm ((PDT))

>

>

>

> I am a night owl too, always up until midnight sometimes until 2

and some

> nights I just don't get much sleep. When I first found out all the

problems

> I had, it was even worse. I didn't even try to sleep until about 4

AM.

>

> Then I would sleep til noon. I also have neuropathy in hands,

arms, legs

> and feet, and sometimes sciatic nerve problems. Even the little

aches would

> be just enough to keep me from sleeping if I went to bed and tried

to sleep.

> Lately my restless leg has been bothering me me, either keeping me

awake or

> waking me up after I get to sleep. I don't even try to sleep in a

bed any

> more. Just sleep in the recliner, and I find that I don't wake up

as much

> at night, only have to go to the bathroom once instead of two or

three

> times. I have read articles that say that people who have serious

life

> threatening illnesses are apt to follow a similar pattern. And

from what I

> could understand, it isn't necessarily nerves, concern that keeps

us awake.

> It is really funny, but I can sleep through the pain of an

incision, but the

> little pains that come on are the ones that keep me awake and wake

me up.

> Seems weird. Jan

>

>

>

>

> No virus found in this outgoing message.

> Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date:

10/15/2007

> 6:48 AM

>

>

>

>

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Some grocery store chains deliver now. Not sure if that's available in your

area.

In California we have Albertson's and Ralphs.

MaC

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I do the sleeping to. Just try to accomplish what I can when I'm not

sleeping.

And the tired.... yuck. I was going to reply to Bob about the

grocery store and how it does him in, but I'll just do it here. If I

don't do it when I first get up it ain't going to happen. By

afternoon, even if I've had a nap, the idea of carrying that stuff in

is more than I can handle.

You have to plan to do everything. I try to plan grocery to

correspond with oldest son being at home, but with work and school

he's not home all that much. All the stuff I used to do without even

considering that it was part of the plan. That is THE most

frustrating thing to me of all the parts of being ill. Well, that

and the fact that I accomplish in a week what I used to accomplish in

1/2 a day.

Course there is a solution I have found to the grocery. It used to

be fast food, but that turns my stomach now. A person can only eat so

much fast food, uggh and I am such a good cook. The other solution

is don't eat. ( I am not recommending that for anyone else !)

---------------------------------

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I have to read to go to sleep too. Finished my last library book today.

Not sure if my non fiction book will put me to sleep tonight. Might have to

reread something. I can't plan to go to sleep, if I do, then I can't sleep

for sure. As to activity, if I do something one morning, then I need the

next day off to recover. Jan H

>

>

> I do the sleeping to. Just try to accomplish what I can when I'm not

> sleeping.

>

> And the tired.... yuck. I was going to reply to Bob about the

> grocery store and how it does him in, but I'll just do it here. If I

> don't do it when I first get up it ain't going to happen. By

> afternoon, even if I've had a nap, the idea of carrying that stuff in

> is more than I can handle.

>

> You have to plan to do everything. I try to plan grocery to

> correspond with oldest son being at home, but with work and school

> he's not home all that much. All the stuff I used to do without even

> considering that it was part of the plan. That is THE most

> frustrating thing to me of all the parts of being ill. Well, that

> and the fact that I accomplish in a week what I used to accomplish in

> 1/2 a day.

>

> Course there is a solution I have found to the grocery. It used to

> be fast food, but that turns my stomach now. A person can only eat so

> much fast food, uggh and I am such a good cook. The other solution

> is don't eat. ( I am not recommending that for anyone else !)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I have never needed much sleep until here lately. I can nap twice

> and still

> > sleep 12 hours. But that's only sometimes.

> >

> > The slightest eventful day tires me more than I would ever have

> imagined!

> > One short trip to the store just does me in. One period of

> traipsing about

> > with a congenial friend is almost more than I can take.

> >

> > But I will not stop going whenever somebody rattles their keys and

> says,

> > " Let's go " !

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The decline in our standard of living may not be a sign of economic

> failure;

> > rather, it may be part of the cure for our economic ills. --

> Hawken in

> > The Next Economy

> >

> > - - - - -

> >

> > Re: Night Owls?

> >

> > Posted by: " Jan Holman " janholman@... arizonablackhat

> >

> > Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:42 pm ((PDT))

> >

> >

> >

> > I am a night owl too, always up until midnight sometimes until 2

> and some

> > nights I just don't get much sleep. When I first found out all the

> problems

> > I had, it was even worse. I didn't even try to sleep until about 4

> AM.

> >

> > Then I would sleep til noon. I also have neuropathy in hands,

> arms, legs

> > and feet, and sometimes sciatic nerve problems. Even the little

> aches would

> > be just enough to keep me from sleeping if I went to bed and tried

> to sleep.

> > Lately my restless leg has been bothering me me, either keeping me

> awake or

> > waking me up after I get to sleep. I don't even try to sleep in a

> bed any

> > more. Just sleep in the recliner, and I find that I don't wake up

> as much

> > at night, only have to go to the bathroom once instead of two or

> three

> > times. I have read articles that say that people who have serious

> life

> > threatening illnesses are apt to follow a similar pattern. And

> from what I

> > could understand, it isn't necessarily nerves, concern that keeps

> us awake.

> > It is really funny, but I can sleep through the pain of an

> incision, but the

> > little pains that come on are the ones that keep me awake and wake

> me up.

> > Seems weird. Jan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this outgoing message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date:

> 10/15/2007

> > 6:48 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

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This is how we explain to our families when they don't quite get it. Sharon sent

this to my mom, and she got all choked up, because now she gets it.

http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/2004/11/the_spoon_theory.php

Re: Night Owls?

I do the sleeping to. Just try to accomplish what I can when I'm not

sleeping.

And the tired.... yuck. I was going to reply to Bob about the

grocery store and how it does him in, but I'll just do it here. If I

don't do it when I first get up it ain't going to happen. By

afternoon, even if I've had a nap, the idea of carrying that stuff in

is more than I can handle.

You have to plan to do everything. I try to plan grocery to

correspond with oldest son being at home, but with work and school

he's not home all that much. All the stuff I used to do without even

considering that it was part of the plan. That is THE most

frustrating thing to me of all the parts of being ill. Well, that

and the fact that I accomplish in a week what I used to accomplish in

1/2 a day.

Course there is a solution I have found to the grocery. It used to

be fast food, but that turns my stomach now. A person can only eat so

much fast food, uggh and I am such a good cook. The other solution

is don't eat. ( I am not recommending that for anyone else !)

>

> I have never needed much sleep until here lately. I can nap twice

and still

> sleep 12 hours. But that's only sometimes.

>

> The slightest eventful day tires me more than I would ever have

imagined!

> One short trip to the store just does me in. One period of

traipsing about

> with a congenial friend is almost more than I can take.

>

> But I will not stop going whenever somebody rattles their keys and

says,

> " Let's go " !

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The decline in our standard of living may not be a sign of economic

failure;

> rather, it may be part of the cure for our economic ills. --

Hawken in

> The Next Economy

>

> - - - - -

>

> Re: Night Owls?

>

> Posted by: " Jan Holman " janholman@.. . arizonablackhat

>

> Date: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:42 pm ((PDT))

>

>

>

> I am a night owl too, always up until midnight sometimes until 2

and some

> nights I just don't get much sleep. When I first found out all the

problems

> I had, it was even worse. I didn't even try to sleep until about 4

AM.

>

> Then I would sleep til noon. I also have neuropathy in hands,

arms, legs

> and feet, and sometimes sciatic nerve problems. Even the little

aches would

> be just enough to keep me from sleeping if I went to bed and tried

to sleep.

> Lately my restless leg has been bothering me me, either keeping me

awake or

> waking me up after I get to sleep. I don't even try to sleep in a

bed any

> more. Just sleep in the recliner, and I find that I don't wake up

as much

> at night, only have to go to the bathroom once instead of two or

three

> times. I have read articles that say that people who have serious

life

> threatening illnesses are apt to follow a similar pattern. And

from what I

> could understand, it isn't necessarily nerves, concern that keeps

us awake.

> It is really funny, but I can sleep through the pain of an

incision, but the

> little pains that come on are the ones that keep me awake and wake

me up.

> Seems weird. Jan

>

>

>

>

> No virus found in this outgoing message.

> Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date:

10/15/2007

> 6:48 AM

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Mac. No deliveries here. We had a little hometown grocery that

did once but they couldn't compete with the big chains and are gone

now. They had the most superior meat and freshest veggies too.

We aren't big enough for an Albertson's and such.

>

> Some grocery store chains deliver now. Not sure if that's available

in your area.

> In California we have Albertson's and Ralphs.

>

> MaC

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Mac, what part of the Mojave did you live in. I was born and raised

in Imperial Valley..Im not bragging mind you..LOL Debra

> I do the sleeping to. Just try to accomplish what I can when I'm

not

> sleeping.

>

> And the tired.... yuck. I was going to reply to Bob about the

> grocery store and how it does him in, but I'll just do it here.

If I

> don't do it when I first get up it ain't going to happen. By

> afternoon, even if I've had a nap, the idea of carrying that stuff

in

> is more than I can handle.

>

> You have to plan to do everything. I try to plan grocery to

> correspond with oldest son being at home, but with work and school

> he's not home all that much. All the stuff I used to do without

even

> considering that it was part of the plan. That is THE most

> frustrating thing to me of all the parts of being ill. Well, that

> and the fact that I accomplish in a week what I used to accomplish

in

> 1/2 a day.

>

> Course there is a solution I have found to the grocery. It used

to

> be fast food, but that turns my stomach now. A person can only eat

so

> much fast food, uggh and I am such a good cook. The other

solution

> is don't eat. ( I am not recommending that for anyone else !)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your

story.

> Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

>

>

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Imperial Valley is around the Salton Sea isn't it?

I grew up in Minnesota where it is pretty green when it isn't all white.

So, when I got here, one of the first people I met took me to the River (the

Colorado River) where the Indian tribes have irrigated farms with lots of

green so that I would feel at home. But, I think the muted colors of the

desert and its plants are much more restful. And a lot of that green was

alfalfa which I am allergic too. Jan H

>

> You people dont know what desert is. Imperial Valley is 150 feet

> below sea level. When I was old enough to run, I was gone.. Debra

>

>

> > > > I do the sleeping to. Just try to accomplish what I can when I'm

> > > not

> > > > sleeping.

> > > >

> > > > And the tired.... yuck. I was going to reply to Bob about the

> > > > grocery store and how it does him in, but I'll just do it here.

> > > If I

> > > > don't do it when I first get up it ain't going to happen. By

> > > > afternoon, even if I've had a nap, the idea of carrying that

> stuff

> > > in

> > > > is more than I can handle.

> > > >

> > > > You have to plan to do everything. I try to plan grocery to

> > > > correspond with oldest son being at home, but with work and

> school

> > > > he's not home all that much. All the stuff I used to do without

> > > even

> > > > considering that it was part of the plan. That is THE most

> > > > frustrating thing to me of all the parts of being ill. Well,

> that

> > > > and the fact that I accomplish in a week what I used to

> accomplish

> > > in

> > > > 1/2 a day.

> > > >

> > > > Course there is a solution I have found to the grocery. It used

> > > to

> > > > be fast food, but that turns my stomach now. A person can only

> eat

> > > so

> > > > much fast food, uggh and I am such a good cook. The other

> > > solution

> > > > is don't eat. ( I am not recommending that for anyone else !)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your

> > > story.

> > > > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

> > > >

> > > >

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