Re: Re: Sleep Consultancy - off topic

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Wow.  If lots of babies sleep in a way such that 25% of parents complain about it, I'm more suspicious of the parents.  Also wonder why naps are a red flag in children older than 6yo--tell that to countries that observe a siesta.  If night wakings are usually due to problematic sleep associations, then she just called breastfeeding a problem.

I don't like some of the books in her reference list.  She says nice things about not CIO, but. . .but. . .but.  And head banging is normal??You couldn't pay me enough to link to that site, I'm afraid.

It is, however, an excellent illustration of the fact (at least *I* think it's a fact) that many if not most of the " baby problems " we have in USA culture are because we are trying to smoosh our babies into a culture where they do not fit and generally are not even welcome to try.  I realize that it isn't mother/father/family friendly, either.  Life goes so much more smoothly if we can just relax, drop our externally imposed ideals, and go with the flow.

Lynn in MO

 

Hi All, I need some more input.  My  former intern sent me an email  a couple weeks ago asking that I link her website to mine in exchange for her linking my website to hers.  She has opened up a sleep consultancy business and her website wording and references give me great pause.  I have a letter drafted to her but wanted to get some other opinions to see what others thought.  I do know one sleep consultant who I would not hesitate to refer to but that is because she is also an IBCLC (and a damn good one but sadly in another state) and we have discussed her practice in detail which meshes well with my own ethics.

 The website is: www.babymuse.org

 Please feel free to email me privately.  Thank you!  I am not cross posting to Lactnet because she is on that list…but she isn’t on this one…  J

 Warmly,Jaye  

Jaye Simpson, CLC, IBCLC, CIIM, MoMBreastfeeding Network

www.breastfeedingnetwork.net

 

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What Lynn said.  Times two. Haha.  I tell the truth.  Babies are not meant to sleep all night or alone untiil they can protect themselves form the predators.  Simple science.  We would have lost way too many offspring to predators and we do not reproduce in litters so that is not a logical option for us as mammals.  When people ask when will my  baby stop needing me at night, I laugh, and say, well, generally, when they can out run or out fight an animal that can eat them. Haha.  Until then? Biological desire to survive would make it logical for them to expect to be near someone who can do so.  Of all the things I have said to parents, that one thing makes the most sense to them.  We are instinctively protective of our young, and our young are needing to be protected.  Our western culture is not 'normal' it is simply our culture.  I do tend to irritate my professors over the years with that observation.  " Their study is only relevant as it relates to the population studied and is not a standard of normal or even acceptable expectations of what would be normal " . LOL  Oh well.  It does at least make it clear that we do not know all there is to know about what normal infant behavior is since we are not often looking at human infants in a normal environment following a normal birth being fed a normal diet.  Babies rarely have sleep issues but parents often have misconceived notions of what normal sleep should look like. It is the expectations that make it so difficult.  The flow of reality is much easier if we do not expect it to be what it is not.

Pam

 

Wow.  If lots of babies sleep in a way such that 25% of parents complain about it, I'm more suspicious of the parents.  Also wonder why naps are a red flag in children older than 6yo--tell that to countries that observe a siesta.  If night wakings are usually due to problematic sleep associations, then she just called breastfeeding a problem.

I don't like some of the books in her reference list.  She says nice things about not CIO, but. . .but. . .but.  And head banging is normal??You couldn't pay me enough to link to that site, I'm afraid.

It is, however, an excellent illustration of the fact (at least *I* think it's a fact) that many if not most of the " baby problems " we have in USA culture are because we are trying to smoosh our babies into a culture where they do not fit and generally are not even welcome to try.  I realize that it isn't mother/father/family friendly, either.  Life goes so much more smoothly if we can just relax, drop our externally imposed ideals, and go with the flow.

Lynn in MO

 

Hi All, I need some more input.  My  former intern sent me an email  a couple weeks ago asking that I link her website to mine in exchange for her linking my website to hers.  She has opened up a sleep consultancy business and her website wording and references give me great pause.  I have a letter drafted to her but wanted to get some other opinions to see what others thought.  I do know one sleep consultant who I would not hesitate to refer to but that is because she is also an IBCLC (and a damn good one but sadly in another state) and we have discussed her practice in detail which meshes well with my own ethics.

 The website is: www.babymuse.org

 Please feel free to email me privately.  Thank you!  I am not cross posting to Lactnet because she is on that list…but she isn’t on this one…  J

 Warmly,Jaye  

Jaye Simpson, CLC, IBCLC, CIIM, MoMBreastfeeding Network

www.breastfeedingnetwork.net

 

-- Pam MazzellaDiBosco, IBCLC, RLCBirthing & Beyond, Inc.Labor Support and Lactation Consultant Services