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Norma,

Are you looking to become a clinical instructor as an independent contractor? If that's what you are considering doing, then go on the ILCA website under clinical instructors. There is a free webinar (Clinical Instruction in Lactation -- or some such name). Kutner and I actually put it together long before webinars were even a gleam in anyone's eye. We did the program independently for several years, and then did it for ILCA in 2002. It's been redone, and I think the webinar is actually one that and Phyllis Kombol did. In any case, you can then go on the Clinical Instructor list on ILCA's list.

Also, our book, Clinical Instruction in Lactation: Teaching the Next Generation is available through ILCA. Hot off the press -- I got my author copy on Tuesday of this week.

Jan

Our local WIC agency does not currently have an IBCLC on staff, and I have been acting as an informal, unpaid resource. The workload has increased, and at least one of their current Peer Counselors is looking to use her hours there towards IBLCE exam requirements, for which she needs direct supervision.With this in mind, I am looking for information about becoming an independent contractor, and am eager to talk with anyone who can point me in the right direction.TIA, normaNorma Ritter, IBCLC, RLCBreastfeeding Matters in the Capital Regionwww.NormaRitter.comJoin us on Facebook for the latest birthing and breastfeeding news and views:http://tinyurl.com/BMCRonFB

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Hi Jan :)I am not sure if being a *clinical instructor* is exactly what I meant. I have been approached many times by aspiring IBCLCs wanting me to mentor them, but my practice is not big enough to give them the variety or hours they would need. Of course they could get that at WIC, especially since they also go into the hospitals to see newborns.

I am thinking more along the lines of being the resource person for WIC breastfeeding staff, in an official capacity. Right now they have two PCs who are both CLCs. One is also a LLL Leader and the other is also a Breastfeeding USA Counselor, and so their counseling skills are far above what you might expect from just taking a CLC course. However, their CLC scope of practice instructs them to refer to an IBCLC for anything outside of the normal course of breastfeeding, which of course, happens all the time

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Ahhh. OK....

OK, but dang. Too bad. We really need good, experienced clinical instructors. Us old folk are gonna die out pretty soon (well, we old IBCLCs never die, we just go to nursing homes), and we need CIs desperately.

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Hi Jan :)I am not sure if being a *clinical instructor* is exactly what I meant. I have been approached many times by aspiring IBCLCs wanting me to mentor them, but my practice is not big enough to give them the variety or hours they would need. Of course they could get that at WIC, especially since they also go into the hospitals to see newborns.I am thinking more along the lines of being the resource person for WIC breastfeeding staff, in an official capacity. Right now they have two PCs who are both CLCs. One is also a LLL Leader and the other is also a Breastfeeding USA Counselor, and so their counseling skills are far above what you might expect from just taking a CLC course. However, their CLC scope of practice instructs them to refer to an IBCLC for anything outside of the normal course of breastfeeding, which of course, happens all the time.normaNorma Ritter, IBCLC, RLCBreastfeeding Matters in the Capital Regionwww.NormaRitter.comJoin us on Facebook for the latest birthing and breastfeeding news and views:http://tinyurl.com/BMCRonFB

Norma,

Are you looking to become a clinical instructor as an independent contractor? If that's what you are considering doing, then go on the ILCA website under clinical instructors. There is a free webinar (Clinical Instruction in Lactation -- or some such name). Kutner and I actually put it together long before webinars were even a gleam in anyone's eye. We did the program independently for several years, and then did it for ILCA in 2002. It's been redone, and I think the webinar is actually one that and Phyllis Kombol did. In any case, you can then go on the Clinical Instructor list on ILCA's list.

Also, our book, Clinical Instruction in Lactation: Teaching the Next Generation is available through ILCA. Hot off the press -- I got my author copy on Tuesday of this week.

Jan

Our local WIC agency does not currently have an IBCLC on staff, and I have been acting as an informal, unpaid resource. The workload has increased, and at least one of their current Peer Counselors is looking to use her hours there towards IBLCE exam requirements, for which she needs direct supervision.With this in mind, I am looking for information about becoming an independent contractor, and am eager to talk with anyone who can point me in the right direction.TIA, normaNorma Ritter, IBCLC, RLCBreastfeeding Matters in the Capital Regionwww.NormaRitter.comJoin us on Facebook for the latest birthing and breastfeeding news and views:http://tinyurl.com/BMCRonFB

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Norma who supervises the WIC peer counselors? In my area they prefer an IBCLC

supervise them.

I was wondering if they could contract with you to be the PC Lead? I do that 1

day a week for the organization I work for.

They need to be creative in how they spend their funding. The PC program

operates on an entirely separate grant budget...but they can use breastfeeding

promotion money to put you in the clinic 1 day a week for example.....

The peer counselors I supervise do not perform evaluations and assessments, I

would not consider their work clinical. I know that other PCs have a different

scope of practice so maybe their work qualifies.

I wish the IBLCE would better clarify what 'clinical' work consists of because I

have gotten feedback from IBCLCs who feel like they never got any clinical

experience to prepare them to do comprehensive consults.....how does that happen

when the IBLCE critera *is* described as hundreds if not 1000 clinical

hours....???

Collaborate you have a lot to offer.

And Jan congratulations on your new book!

>

> Hi Jan :)

>

> I am not sure if being a *clinical instructor* is exactly what I meant. I

> have been approached many times by aspiring IBCLCs wanting me to mentor

> them, but my practice is not big enough to give them the variety or hours

> they would need. Of course they could get that at WIC, especially since

> they also go into the hospitals to see newborns.

>

> I am thinking more along the lines of being the resource person for WIC

> breastfeeding staff, in an official capacity. Right now they have two PCs

> who are both CLCs. One is also a LLL Leader and the other is also a

> Breastfeeding USA Counselor, and so their counseling skills are far above

> what you might expect from just taking a CLC course. However, their CLC

> scope of practice instructs them to refer to an IBCLC for anything outside

> of the normal course of breastfeeding, which of course, happens all the

> time.

>

> norma

>

>

>

> Norma Ritter, IBCLC, RLC

> Breastfeeding Matters in the Capital Region

> www.NormaRitter.com

> Join us on Facebook for the latest birthing and breastfeeding news and

> views:

> http://tinyurl.com/BMCRonFB

>

>

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My comments below.norma

 

Norma who supervises the WIC peer counselors? In my area they prefer an IBCLC supervise them.See, THAT is the problem! They do not have anyone on staff who is an IBCLC.

I was wondering if they could contract with you to be the PC Lead? I do that 1 day a week for the organization I work for. That is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about.

Please tell me more about what you do. It would be helpful to have an idea of salary range too. Please reply privately if you prefer.

They need to be creative in how they spend their funding. The PC program operates on an entirely separate grant budget...but they can use breastfeeding promotion money to put you in the clinic 1 day a week for example.....

nod

The peer counselors I supervise do not perform evaluations and assessments, I would not consider their work clinical. I know that other PCs have a different scope of practice so maybe their work qualifies.

They are creative. They know how to say things like, " I noticed that your baby xxxxx and you may want get that checked out by your doctor. "

I wish the IBLCE would better clarify what 'clinical' work consists of because I have gotten feedback from IBCLCs who feel like they never got any clinical experience to prepare them to do comprehensive consults.....how does that happen when the IBLCE critera *is* described as hundreds if not 1000 clinical hours....???

So true!

Collaborate you have a lot to offer.Thank you!

And Jan congratulations on your new book!Yay Jan!normaNorma Ritter, IBCLC, RLCBreastfeeding Matters in the Capital Regionwww.NormaRitter.com

Join us on Facebook for the latest birthing and breastfeeding news and views:http://tinyurl.com/BMCRonFB

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Thank you both!!

Jan

My comments below.norma

Norma who supervises the WIC peer counselors? In my area they prefer an IBCLC supervise them.

See, THAT is the problem! They do not have anyone on staff who is an IBCLC.

I was wondering if they could contract with you to be the PC Lead? I do that 1 day a week for the organization I work for.

That is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about.Please tell me more about what you do. It would be helpful to have an idea of salary range too. Please reply privately if you prefer.

They need to be creative in how they spend their funding. The PC program operates on an entirely separate grant budget...but they can use breastfeeding promotion money to put you in the clinic 1 day a week for example.....

nod

The peer counselors I supervise do not perform evaluations and assessments, I would not consider their work clinical. I know that other PCs have a different scope of practice so maybe their work qualifies.

They are creative. They know how to say things like, "I noticed that your baby xxxxx and you may want get that checked out by your doctor."

I wish the IBLCE would better clarify what 'clinical' work consists of because I have gotten feedback from IBCLCs who feel like they never got any clinical experience to prepare them to do comprehensive consults.....how does that happen when the IBLCE critera *is* described as hundreds if not 1000 clinical hours....???

So true!

Collaborate you have a lot to offer.

Thank you!

And Jan congratulations on your new book!Yay Jan!normaNorma Ritter, IBCLC, RLCBreastfeeding Matters in the Capital Regionwww.NormaRitter.comJoin us on Facebook for the latest birthing and breastfeeding news and views:http://tinyurl.com/BMCRonFB

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