RE: TD DMPS question/switching chelation methods

October 24, 2004

Betsy,

Did you get any responses to your question? Are kids that have been doing a

form of chelation and then switch to TD-DMPS seeing immediate behavior

issues?

My son has chelated for years with DMSA, ALA, oral DMPS, and TTFD(trio). We

are currently using MTP with good results. We are planning on trying the

TD-DMPS very soon. I have heard that the first couple weeks are OK, then a

regressive time for a few weeks, then progress time again. So we were

thinking to start a couple weeks before Christmas holiday to keep the bulk

of the regression time out of the school classroom. I wonder if this

timeline is true for children that are already doing some form of

chelation???

Did you continue using the MTP on the off TD-DMPS days?

Trudy

TD DMPS question

Good morning all....

I started my 6 year old son on TD DMPS on Wednesday night. On

Thursday and Friday I noticed that he was a little more

argumentative, but wasn't sure if that was the DMPS or we had started

back to school (year round program) after a three week break. We had

chelated for almost a year using DMSA then DMSA/ALA and because of

horrible yeast had to stop. For the last 10 months, we have been

using MTP II. Has anyone who has been chelating for a while, then

switched to TD DMPS seen behaviors immediately? He also had a big

meltdown on Friday at school and his teacher reported that he had

been a bit more " willful " on Thursday and Friday. I gave him another

dose last night and will have the full weekend to observe him.

Thanks for your help...

Betsy

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October 24, 2004

Hi, Trudy: Logic would have it that those kids who have had a lot of

their metals removed would have less side effects, but in my small group

I've seen everything, and all of them have had chelation before. One child

has done wonderfully with no side effects, only marvelous benefit

(mind-blowing actually; she had only used TTFD before, and is still using it

on the off-day). One had side effects pretty quickly, taking weeks to

subside, and the others, the majority, with the pattern you mention: a few

weeks of improvement and then severe stimminess and autistic regression in

some ways while retaining the cognitive and language gains, coming out of

the side effects variably and some not yet after quite a few weeks. It

remains a huge mystery, like a lot of other things about our kids, and leads

me to think much more is going on here than just mercury removal. Dr. JM

TD DMPS question

>

> Good morning all....

>

> I started my 6 year old son on TD DMPS on Wednesday night. On

> Thursday and Friday I noticed that he was a little more

> argumentative, but wasn't sure if that was the DMPS or we had started

> back to school (year round program) after a three week break. We had

> chelated for almost a year using DMSA then DMSA/ALA and because of

> horrible yeast had to stop. For the last 10 months, we have been

> using MTP II. Has anyone who has been chelating for a while, then

> switched to TD DMPS seen behaviors immediately? He also had a big

> meltdown on Friday at school and his teacher reported that he had

> been a bit more " willful " on Thursday and Friday. I gave him another

> dose last night and will have the full weekend to observe him.

>

> Thanks for your help...

> Betsy

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

October 24, 2004

Thank you Jaquelyn!

I was hoping that logic would take over here too! : ) At least I hope we

follow with the majority.

Even though you have seen a wide range of reactions, it really helps me to

hear the range and the reactions and know what to expect. I would be able

to live with the stimminess if the cognitive and language gains remained!!

Interesting that your one child continues to use TTFD on the off days. We

are hoping to continue the MTP on the off days. He does so well on it!

Thank you for your observations!

Trudy

Re: TD DMPS question/switching chelation methods

Hi, Trudy: Logic would have it that those kids who have had a lot of

their metals removed would have less side effects, but in my small group

I've seen everything, and all of them have had chelation before. One

child

has done wonderfully with no side effects, only marvelous benefit

(mind-blowing actually; she had only used TTFD before, and is still using

it

on the off-day). One had side effects pretty quickly, taking weeks to

subside, and the others, the majority, with the pattern you mention: a few

weeks of improvement and then severe stimminess and autistic regression in

some ways while retaining the cognitive and language gains, coming out of

the side effects variably and some not yet after quite a few weeks. It

remains a huge mystery, like a lot of other things about our kids, and

leads

me to think much more is going on here than just mercury removal. Dr. JM

TD DMPS question

>

> Good morning all....

>

> I started my 6 year old son on TD DMPS on Wednesday night. On

> Thursday and Friday I noticed that he was a little more

> argumentative, but wasn't sure if that was the DMPS or we had

started

> back to school (year round program) after a three week break. We

had

> chelated for almost a year using DMSA then DMSA/ALA and because of

> horrible yeast had to stop. For the last 10 months, we have been

> using MTP II. Has anyone who has been chelating for a while, then

> switched to TD DMPS seen behaviors immediately? He also had a big

> meltdown on Friday at school and his teacher reported that he had

> been a bit more " willful " on Thursday and Friday. I gave him

another

> dose last night and will have the full weekend to observe him.

>

> Thanks for your help...

> Betsy

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

October 25, 2004

Dr. McCandless,

The regression you mentioned about stimming yet keeping cognitive and language

skill is exactly how I doughtier responded to Valtrex last year before

chelation. She's taking it again while chelating with oral DMPS and is

responding much better.

Shari