Re: Fwd: Fw: Re: Why Doctors are afraid to prescribe pain meds.

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Ken, Thank You so much, Ana

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> To: chronic_painonelist

> Subject: Fwd: Fw: Re: Why

Doctors are afraid to prescribe pain meds.

> Date: Friday, August 07, 1998 12:27 PM

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> >Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 19:44:49 -0400

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> >Subject: Fw: Re: Why Doctors are afraid to

> prescribe pain meds.

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> >Ken please use this letter and not the attached one I can't get it

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> >but use this one please.

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> >> From: Be2u4u@...

> >> To: icu2@...

> >> Subject: Fwd: Re: Why Doctors are afraid to prescribe

pain

> >meds.

> >> Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 7:20 PM

> >>

> >> In a message dated 8/6/98 6:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> >icu2@...

> >> writes:

> >>

> >> << Subj: Re: Re: Why Doctors are afraid to prescribe

pain

> >> meds.

> >> Date: 8/6/98 6:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> >> From: icu2@... (ANA)

> >> To: be2u4u@...

> >>

> >> Ken, Could you get this message out to everyone please? A very dear

> >friend

> >> of mine who had lived in constant pain for more years than I have

know

> >him

> >> needs everyone's prayers. He has been rear ended 3 times and has bad

> >back

> >> problems. The last surgery he had didn't do to well and he wound up

> >> throwing a blood clot that landed in his lung. Through all of this I

> >have

> >> never heard him say why me one time. I also have never seen him let

his

> >> pain show. You knew he was in pain but he never complained and

always

> >was

> >> the first to laugh at a joke. I have never heard him raise his voice

> >ever.

> >> In our family which is close he is the only grandfather and not just

for

> >> his but for their cousins as well 12 children total. The other

> >children's

> >> grandfathers are have either passed away or they don't take time at

all

> >with

> >> their grandchildren. Bobby had always been their for every child.

He

> >and

> >> his wife are very special people. Last Sunday he had a heart attack

he

> >was

> >> just able to get to the phone and call his son in law he was in so

much

> >> pain his son in law did even recognize his voice. They live close by

so

> >he

> >> was able to get there very fast and call EMT's they put him in this

> >> hospital which for once I have to give them credit, they brought him

> >back

> >> when hid heart stopped while his wife and daughter were back with

him.

> >They

> >> sent them out and worked and brought him back around. Today they

> >> transferred

> >> him to ville Fla where they have great health care. They did

the

> >> cather. and went on and did the angioplasty and put a pacemaker in

> >> also they told his family that the heart attack was a bad one he is

in

> >very

> >> critical condition But if he makes the next 48 hr. he has a chance

would

> >> everyone please say a prayer for this dear man? We all have been in

> >pain

> >> like he is and we can all understand that and I am a firm believer in

> >> prayer. This is from a person who rarely goes to church, but my

faith

> >is

> >> deep. When I had gangrene and had home IV's and fought to stop a

> >nursing

> >> agency from coming in to charge me 135bucks 3 times a day to do

> >something I

> >> was sure I could to with help from up above. I prayed and said Lord

> >> without you I will never get through this please guide me. He was

with

> >me

> >> and no one could believe how well I did. But I didn't do it the Lord

> >did it.

> >> So Please I know this is for chronic pain but this man has lived in

it

> >for

> >> years with no support groups like we have and here I am being selfish

> >but

> >> my heart would break if we lose him he is young so please everyone

> >remember

> >> him in your prayers Thank you all so much Ana

> >>

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> >Ken, Could you get this message out to everyone please? A very dear

friend

> >of mine who had lived in constant pain for more years than I have know

him

> >needs everyone's prayers. He has been rear ended 3 times and has bad

back

> >problems. The last surgery he had didn't do to well and he wound up

> >throwing a blood clot that landed in his lung. Through all of this I

have

> >never heard him say why me one time. I also have never sense him let his

> >pain show. You knew he was in pain but he never complained and always

was

> >the first to laugh at a joke. I have never heard him raise his voice

ever.

> >In our family which is close he is the only grandfather and not just for

> >his but for their cousins as well 12 children total. The other

children's

> >grandfathers are have either passed away or they don't take time at ll

with

> >their grandchildren. Bobby had always been their for every child. He and

> >his wife are very special people. Last Sunday he had a heart attack he

was

> >just able to get to the phone and call his son in law he was in so much

> >pain his son in law did even reconisge his voice. They live close by so

he

> >was able to get there very fast and call EMT's they put him in this

> >hospital which for once I have to give them credit, they brought him

back

> >when hid heart stopped while his wife and daughter were back with him.

They

> >sent them out and worked and brought him back around. Today they

> >transferred

> >him to ville Fla where they have great health care. They did the

> >catheraisation and went on and did the angioplasty and put a pacemaker

in

> >also they told his family that the heart attack was a bad one he is in

very

> >chrital ccondition but if he makes the next 48 hrs he has a chance would

> >everyone please say a prayer for this dear man? We all have been in pain

> >like he is aand we can all understand that and I am a firm beliver in

> >prayer. This is from a person wgo rarely goes to church, but my faith is

> >deep. When I had gangrene and had home IV's and faught to stop a nursing

> >agecy from coming in to charge me 135bucks 3 times a day to do something

I

> >was sure I could to with hhelp from up above. I prayed and said Lord

> >without you I will never get throught this please guide me. He was with

me

> >and no one could belive how well I did. But I didn't do it the Lord did

it.

> >So Please I know this is for chronic pain but this man has lived in it

for

> >years with no support groups like we have aand here I am being selfish

but

> >my heart would break if we lose him he is young so please everyone

remeber

> >him in your prayers. Thanks to everyone Ana

> >

> >----------

> >>

> >> To: chronic_painonelist

> >> Subject: Re: Why Doctors are afraid to prescribe pain

> >meds.

> >> Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 2:06 AM

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi Ray,

> >> Thanks for the kudos, but I was just concerned about over-reaching.

Its

> >> probably one of the hardest things to control. Sounds like you have

been

> >> very methodical about trying to adapt what you do. Retire? Nah, you

just

> >> get liberated and change direction.

> >> My family war stories-- well for many years I had a great life &

> >literally

> >> got to do virtually everything I hoped to. So I had a collection of

> >> problems in a clump instead of spread out. But thanks for the kind

> >thought.

> >> It helps.

> >> Ken

> >> At 08:41 PM 7/22/98 -0400, you wrote:

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Thanks again, Ken. Yes, I have a self-propelled mower and even

though

> >much

> >> >of the yard is slopes, riding lawn mowers are beginning to look very

> >> >interesting, especially with the foot/heel pain that accompanies RS,

not

> >to

> >> >mention swollen left knee and inflamed right hip. As to snow, I

don't

> >> >shovel our entirely too long driveway. I hire someone with a blade

on a

> >> >truck to do it for me. I do shovel the short path from the drive to

> >back

> >> >door. The longer path to the front door, can wait for warmer temps.

> >> >Luckily during the last five years we have only had two winters where

> >snow

> >> >was a problem. Seldom stays very cold here for very long at a time.

> >Glad I

> >> >don't live further up the mountains. We have had friends snowed in

for

> >ten

> >> >to twelve days. Some folks on the mountains have driveways that are

> >over a

> >> >mile long through deep woods and along narrow creek beds. Used to

dream

> >> >about owning such a retreat, but I'm more realistic now about the

amount

> >of

> >> >work it would demand. I'll stick with our country club subdivision

> >which is

> >> >less than three minutes from my wife's practice and the hospital

where

> >she

> >> >sees patients.

> >> >

> >> >Do I use a stool? No, but I've started using a cane to bend over and

> >stand

> >> >back up. I do a lot of gardening sitting or lying on the ground.

It's

> >been

> >> >too hot to do much in the garden these past few weeks. Just bought a

> >pair

> >> >of knee protectors, but haven't tried them yet. I can't stand to

kneel

> >> >because of the knee discomfort but thought the knee pads might be

> >helpful.

> >> >I use special tools to compensate for the pain in the hands, sort of

a

> >metal

> >> >claw. Used to just dig with hands and fingers, but forget that with

our

> >> >hard-rock clay and the inflammation in my finger joints and wrists.

I'm

> >> >constantly trying new ergonomic tools as they come on the market.

They

> >> >really do make a difference, especially with the back pain.

> >> >

> >> >I'm even contemplating hiring a local teenager to cultivate the new

> >flower

> >> >beds I've been planning. I fatigue so quickly ending up with the

shakes

> >> >when I use my rototiller. We have hard-rock clay soil. I've found

that

> >its

> >> >much easier to grow plants that thrive in poor soil than it is to try

to

> >> >change the soil conditions. Raised beds where you just dump new good

> >soil

> >> >over the old bad stuff is also much easier than tilling up and

amending

> >the

> >> >soil. I'm thinking about writing a gardening book for handicapped

and

> >> >physically limited folks with the solutions I and others have come up

> >with

> >> >for continuing to garden with limitations. This is the first year

I've

> >> >tried putting plants in pots on the porches. They look great and I

> >think

> >> >I'll try it again next year, only with bigger pots.

> >> >

> >> >I always said I wanted to retire before I was 50. Just didn't

realize

> >that

> >> >when I did retire at age 47 almost two years ago that it would be due

to

> >> >physical problems and not the luxury of financial success. My wife

> >never

> >> >was much of a homemaker so she is delighted to have me do the

cooking,

> >> >shopping, and cleaning while she continues her very successful

career.

> >> >Unlike some friends who feel that their wife's success threatens

their

> >> >masculinity, I'm delighted that my wife makes as much as 10 times

what I

> >> >could as a teacher or pastor. It gives me the luxury to deal with my

> >> >physical problems without worrying unduly about finances. I do wish

I

> >could

> >> >contribute more to the income, but that's the way it is right now.

Who

> >> >knows, with all this extra time this winter maybe I'll write the

great

> >> >American novel...or science fiction short story, perhaps.

> >> >

> >> >My mother has Sjogren's syndrome and terminal interstitial lung

disease.

> > My

> >> >dad has asked me to write her story for publication. So far it is

both

> >> >humorous and tear-jerking. She went through what many on the list

have

> >> >complained about with doctors discounting her complaints and symptoms

as

> >> > " psychological " right up until she had to start taking oxygen 24

hours a

> >> >day. Sort of hard to discount the fact that your blood oxygen level

> >just

> >> >crashed. Even the doctors couldn't charge her with a psychiatric

> >problem on

> >> >that issue. One good point, though, out of her experience is that

both

> >my

> >> >Mom and Dad have apologized to me for not believing my physical

> >complaints

> >> >years ago. The doctors kept telling them it was all in my head even

> >when

> >> >they could see the swollen knees and hands and feet. Now my younger

> >> >brothers are both complaining of similar problems to mine and my

parents

> >are

> >> >telling them to check out whether they too might have Reiters.

> >> >

> >> >Ken, you are a wealth of information and good advice. I consider you

a

> >real

> >> >friend even though we have never met. I appreciate the way you share

so

> >> >freely of your own experiences. Sorry life has given you such a raw

> >deal in

> >> >the physical sense. You are better than a psychiatrist for me!

Only

> >ever

> >> >met one that really helped me and then he decided to stop private

> >practice

> >> >and just work for a state psych facility in order to have more time

for

> >his

> >> >wife and young children.

> >> >

> >> >Have a great evening!

> >> >Ray

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

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