Re: Rogene: tingling problem

[Guest guest]

Dear Beth,

I sympathise with you over this as I have terrible tingling/numbness it drives me nuts, mine was really odd last night it woke me while I was sleeping with tingling in my right thigh but only in patches(hard to explain) .I have had it in my face, tongue, hands,arms, leg, foot,groin but never at the same time.My left hand is the worst affected, after I wake in the morning half my hand is completely dead the other half fine, really weird!!!

I hope we can find something to stop this its horrible I would like to hear any suggestions.

Take care

Sue.

[Guest guest]

Beth,

I really don't know what's going on. . . The fact that

the sauna helps indicates (to me) that it's

neuroligical. . . Far infrared light therapy is known

to help neurolgical problems.

Getting better takes time, and a lot of patience. I'm

about 12 years post explant and I'm still working on

some issues. Life is good again though!

Have you been tested for platinum? It's a known

neurotoxin.

Love,

Rogene

--- bethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rogene,

>

> The weird thing is after the explant the tingling

> went away for a

> few months. Then it came back. I have had it

> every day for over a

> year now. It is in my face and neck every day.

> Some days it is

> hardly noticeable, but when it's pretty bad and in

> my foot again, I

> just call it a flare. I have done Nystatin twice

> now, and have done

> Oil of Oregano for months, etc. I did pure organic

> foods for six

> months. I'm on Primal Defense now, and honestly I

> have never

> noticed any real improvement from the supplements.

> It comes and

> goes out of the blue. I am wondering now if the

> problem is

> neurological and coming from my brain. My only

> relief is from using

> the infrared sauna. Some how it makes the tingling

> subside, and

> this is a going to sleep kind of tingling. I've

> never had total

> numbness.

>

> Dr Kolb has been very comforting and encouraging.

> If it weren't for

> that, I would be very stressed and anxious. Any

> thoughts on the

> tingling thing? I do think I should get checked for

> thyroid and

> gluten antibodies. I used to be allergic to wheat

> as a child.

>

> hugs,

> Beth

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dearest Rogene and Beth:

I'm not getting any mail today, our new computer has shut down, good that

we still have this old one. I hope that everyone has not given up because of

the FDA's decision.

I too have tingling in my hands, but it is much better than it was. I'm

planning to be tested for platinum. We hope that it won't cost too much, the

UofA will be charging me too, but I'm not sure how much it will all cost.

Take care love....Lea

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Re: Rogene: tingling problem

>

> Beth,

>

> I really don't know what's going on. . . The fact that

> the sauna helps indicates (to me) that it's

> neuroligical. . . Far infrared light therapy is known

> to help neurolgical problems.

>

> Getting better takes time, and a lot of patience. I'm

> about 12 years post explant and I'm still working on

> some issues. Life is good again though!

>

> Have you been tested for platinum? It's a known

> neurotoxin.

>

> Love,

>

> Rogene

>

>

> --- bethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rogene,

> >

> > The weird thing is after the explant the tingling

> > went away for a

> > few months. Then it came back. I have had it

> > every day for over a

> > year now. It is in my face and neck every day.

> > Some days it is

> > hardly noticeable, but when it's pretty bad and in

> > my foot again, I

> > just call it a flare. I have done Nystatin twice

> > now, and have done

> > Oil of Oregano for months, etc. I did pure organic

> > foods for six

> > months. I'm on Primal Defense now, and honestly I

> > have never

> > noticed any real improvement from the supplements.

> > It comes and

> > goes out of the blue. I am wondering now if the

> > problem is

> > neurological and coming from my brain. My only

> > relief is from using

> > the infrared sauna. Some how it makes the tingling

> > subside, and

> > this is a going to sleep kind of tingling. I've

> > never had total

> > numbness.

> >

> > Dr Kolb has been very comforting and encouraging.

> > If it weren't for

> > that, I would be very stressed and anxious. Any

> > thoughts on the

> > tingling thing? I do think I should get checked for

> > thyroid and

> > gluten antibodies. I used to be allergic to wheat

> > as a child.

> >

> > hugs,

> > Beth

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead

you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to

live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Catch the message I just posted on Neuropathy . . .

It's going to take time!

Hugs,

Rogene

--- bethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

>

> Yes, my hair analysis from Doctors Data tested for

> platinum, tin and

> some other toxic metals. My tin levels were at

> 100%, while the

> platinum and everything else was low. Oh, there was

> some metal that

> was high, but it was used in a contrast brain MRI.

> I know platinum

> is bad stuff. In my report, the lab stated that

> high tin levels are

> noted by degenerative nerve conditions. After

> taking lipoic acid

> and doing the detox baths, the next hair analysis

> showed no tin, the

> stuff from the mri was gone too. My copper is high,

> but Dr Kolb

> said I should take Zinc Tally to bring it down.

> Rogene I am so

> frustrated by this, don't know what to try next,

> maybe a liver flush.

>

> hugs,

> Beth

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi Rogene,

> > >

> > > The weird thing is after the explant the

> tingling

> > > went away for a

> > > few months. Then it came back. I have had it

> > > every day for over a

> > > year now. It is in my face and neck every day.

> > > Some days it is

> > > hardly noticeable, but when it's pretty bad and

> in

> > > my foot again, I

> > > just call it a flare. I have done Nystatin

> twice

> > > now, and have done

> > > Oil of Oregano for months, etc. I did pure

> organic

> > > foods for six

> > > months. I'm on Primal Defense now, and honestly

> I

> > > have never

> > > noticed any real improvement from the

> supplements.

> > > It comes and

> > > goes out of the blue. I am wondering now if the

> > > problem is

> > > neurological and coming from my brain. My only

> > > relief is from using

> > > the infrared sauna. Some how it makes the

> tingling

> > > subside, and

> > > this is a going to sleep kind of tingling. I've

> > > never had total

> > > numbness.

> > >

> > > Dr Kolb has been very comforting and

> encouraging.

> > > If it weren't for

> > > that, I would be very stressed and anxious. Any

> > > thoughts on the

> > > tingling thing? I do think I should get checked

> for

> > > thyroid and

> > > gluten antibodies. I used to be allergic to

> wheat

> > > as a child.

> > >

> > > hugs,

> > > Beth

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You know what Beth,

After what I just read that you wrote, I wonder if we

both have some circulation issues?

GT

--- bethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rogene,

>

> The weird thing is after the explant the tingling

> went away for a

> few months. Then it came back. I have had it

> every day for over a

> year now. It is in my face and neck every day.

> Some days it is

> hardly noticeable, but when it's pretty bad and in

> my foot again, I

> just call it a flare. I have done Nystatin twice

> now, and have done

> Oil of Oregano for months, etc. I did pure organic

> foods for six

> months. I'm on Primal Defense now, and honestly I

> have never

> noticed any real improvement from the supplements.

> It comes and

> goes out of the blue. I am wondering now if the

> problem is

> neurological and coming from my brain. My only

> relief is from using

> the infrared sauna. Some how it makes the tingling

> subside, and

> this is a going to sleep kind of tingling. I've

> never had total

> numbness.

>

> Dr Kolb has been very comforting and encouraging.

> If it weren't for

> that, I would be very stressed and anxious. Any

> thoughts on the

> tingling thing? I do think I should get checked for

> thyroid and

> gluten antibodies. I used to be allergic to wheat

> as a child.

>

> hugs,

> Beth

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

I know nothing about the infrared sauna at all, so excuse me if this question is ridiculous. To me, if the sauna causes sweating, the problem could be toxin overload rather than neurological because sweating causes the body to dump toxins. I used my steam sauna a lot after my surgery this week to get rid of the anesthesia and drugs quicker. It helped tremendously.

Kenda

I really don't know what's going on. . . The fact that

the sauna helps indicates (to me) that it's

neuroligical. . . Far infrared light therapy is known

to help neurolgical problems.

Getting better takes time, and a lot of patience. I'm

about 12 years post explant and I'm still working on

some issues. Life is good again though!

Have you been tested for platinum? It's a known

neurotoxin.

Love,

Rogene

--- bethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rogene,

>

> The weird thing is after the explant the tingling

> went away for a

> few months. Then it came back. I have had it

> every day for over a

> year now. It is in my face and neck every day.

> Some days it is

> hardly noticeable, but when it's pretty bad and in

> my foot again, I

> just call it a flare. I have done Nystatin twice

> now, and have done

> Oil of Oregano for months, etc. I did pure organic

> foods for six

> months. I'm on Primal Defense now, and honestly I

> have never

> noticed any real improvement from the supplements.

> It comes and

> goes out of the blue. I am wondering now if the

> problem is

> neurological and coming from my brain. My only

> relief is from using

> the infrared sauna. Some how it makes the tingling

> subside, and

> this is a going to sleep kind of tingling. I've

> never had total

> numbness.

>

> Dr Kolb has been very comforting and encouraging.

> If it weren't for

> that, I would be very stressed and anxious. Any

> thoughts on the

> tingling thing? I do think I should get checked for

> thyroid and

> gluten antibodies. I used to be allergic to wheat

> as a child.

>

> hugs,

> Beth

>

>

>

>

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

A far infrared sauna has far different effects on the

body than a steam or dry sauna does. . . There's so

much involved, it would be best if you did a websearch

for them, then read several different manufacturer's

papers on them.

It's also easier to stay in . . . when I come out of

mine, I feel energized rather than wiped out.

An analysis of the sweat generated by infrared shows

more toxins being released in the process. In

addition, the light penetrates the body up to two

inches. The deep heat stimulates the body to use it's

own healing mechanisms.

Tom Cruise has donated infrared saunas to the 9/11

rescue workers because they are suffering from the

toxins they were exposed to. The 9/11 folks are in

serious trouble. But far infrared saunas are helping.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

You’re right, I need to do some research. I did a small bit but obviously not enough! The far infrared sounds amazing. Is it also good for injuries and back pain?

Kenda

Kenda,

A far infrared sauna has far different effects on the

body than a steam or dry sauna does. . . There's so

much involved, it would be best if you did a websearch

for them, then read several different manufacturer's

papers on them.

It's also easier to stay in . . . when I come out of

mine, I feel energized rather than wiped out.

An analysis of the sweat generated by infrared shows

more toxins being released in the process. In

addition, the light penetrates the body up to two

inches. The deep heat stimulates the body to use it's

own healing mechanisms.

Tom Cruise has donated infrared saunas to the 9/11

rescue workers because they are suffering from the

toxins they were exposed to. The 9/11 folks are in

serious trouble. But far infrared saunas are helping.

Hugs,

Rogene

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

The people who manufacture infrared saunas make some

fantastic claims. . . however, it's the studies they

have that are impressive. When I bought mine, I

figured that, if it did half what they claimed, it

would be worth it.

Whenever I feel muscle pain, I head for the sauna. . .

There are times when my sweat has a very peculiar

smell. . . recently, it smelled like sour towels with

a hint of ammonia.

After getting used to mine, there are times when I

feel something akin to a craving to use mine.

If one is using their sauna as a detox program, they

should take care to keep water soluable vitamins and

minerals replenished, and of course, drink plenty of

water. My daughter uses far infrared pads to treat

Axheimers patients with long standing wounds and

arthritic conditions with amazing results.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

Can you tell me what brand you have and if you like it? I wonder what the ammonia smell is. Last week, after my surgery I had the sweats at night and it smelled like ammonia, almost like I had wet the bed. Of course I didn’t. I detox slowly, which is why I stay on my detox program continually.

Where do you keep the sauna?

Kenda

Kenda,

The people who manufacture infrared saunas make some

fantastic claims. . . however, it's the studies they

have that are impressive. When I bought mine, I

figured that, if it did half what they claimed, it

would be worth it.

Whenever I feel muscle pain, I head for the sauna. . .

There are times when my sweat has a very peculiar

smell. . . recently, it smelled like sour towels with

a hint of ammonia.

After getting used to mine, there are times when I

feel something akin to a craving to use mine.

If one is using their sauna as a detox program, they

should take care to keep water soluable vitamins and

minerals replenished, and of course, drink plenty of

water. My daughter uses far infrared pads to treat

Axheimers patients with long standing wounds and

arthritic conditions with amazing results.

Hugs,

Rogene

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

Both Patty and I have the same models . . .

HealthMate, two-person (two people would be pretty

uncomfortable though).

I do like it . . . However, the only advantage I see

in it over other models is that HealthMate gives you a

lifetime warranty on the light units. It has a built

in radio, thermostat and timer. It has five lights.

Two in back, two in front, and a small one below the

bench.

If I had it to do over, and money was no object, I

would like to have one large enough to lay down in. As

it is, if I sit sideways with my feet out, I fill the

bench.

They are very economical to operate . . . More in the

line of burning five large light bulbs. I have mine in

a screened in, covered back porch. The porch is deep

enough that rain doesn't get to the top of the unit.

But even in the house, it wouldn't tax an air

conditioner.

IMHO, one major consideration in buying one would be

how much the shipping cost would be. All things being

equal, I would order the one that costs the least to

ship. Mine came in one or two very heavy boxs. The

people from the Home Show delivered it to us.

They come ready to assemble - mine had big snaps that

hold the box together. Assembling by directions is

essential.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

Thank you for all of the helpful information. I want to ask Dr. Leu about whether this could help my liver since it is always being challenged.

Kenda

Kenda,

Both Patty and I have the same models . . .

HealthMate, two-person (two people would be pretty

uncomfortable though).

I do like it . . . However, the only advantage I see

in it over other models is that HealthMate gives you a

lifetime warranty on the light units. It has a built

in radio, thermostat and timer. It has five lights.

Two in back, two in front, and a small one below the

bench.

If I had it to do over, and money was no object, I

would like to have one large enough to lay down in. As

it is, if I sit sideways with my feet out, I fill the

bench.

They are very economical to operate . . . More in the

line of burning five large light bulbs. I have mine in

a screened in, covered back porch. The porch is deep

enough that rain doesn't get to the top of the unit.

But even in the house, it wouldn't tax an air

conditioner.

IMHO, one major consideration in buying one would be

how much the shipping cost would be. All things being

equal, I would order the one that costs the least to

ship. Mine came in one or two very heavy boxs. The

people from the Home Show delivered it to us.

They come ready to assemble - mine had big snaps that

hold the box together. Assembling by directions is

essential.

Hugs,

Rogene

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

Don't let him get by with an unstudied answer. . .

Most doctors, ND or MD, don't understand the

difference between saunas.

Rogene

--- Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@...> wrote:

> Hi Rogene,

>

> Thank you for all of the helpful information. I

> want to ask Dr. Leu about

> whether this could help my liver since it is always

> being challenged.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > Kenda,

> >

> > Both Patty and I have the same models . . .

> > HealthMate, two-person (two people would be pretty

> > uncomfortable though).

> >

> > I do like it . . . However, the only advantage I

> see

> > in it over other models is that HealthMate gives

> you a

> > lifetime warranty on the light units. It has a

> built

> > in radio, thermostat and timer. It has five

> lights.

> > Two in back, two in front, and a small one below

> the

> > bench.

> >

> > If I had it to do over, and money was no object, I

> > would like to have one large enough to lay down

> in. As

> > it is, if I sit sideways with my feet out, I fill

> the

> > bench.

> >

> > They are very economical to operate . . . More in

> the

> > line of burning five large light bulbs. I have

> mine in

> > a screened in, covered back porch. The porch is

> deep

> > enough that rain doesn't get to the top of the

> unit.

> > But even in the house, it wouldn't tax an air

> > conditioner.

> >

> > IMHO, one major consideration in buying one would

> be

> > how much the shipping cost would be. All things

> being

> > equal, I would order the one that costs the least

> to

> > ship. Mine came in one or two very heavy boxs. The

> > people from the Home Show delivered it to us.

> >

> > They come ready to assemble - mine had big snaps

> that

> > hold the box together. Assembling by directions is

> > essential.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

He never gets by with an unstudied answer! He’ll either know about it or admit that he doesn’t and will research it if it interests me or him. I’d just like to see if he has any feedback about it.

Kenda

Kenda,

Don't let him get by with an unstudied answer. . .

Most doctors, ND or MD, don't understand the

difference between saunas.

Rogene

--- Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@...> wrote:

> Hi Rogene,

>

> Thank you for all of the helpful information. I

> want to ask Dr. Leu about

> whether this could help my liver since it is always

> being challenged.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > Kenda,

> >

> > Both Patty and I have the same models . . .

> > HealthMate, two-person (two people would be pretty

> > uncomfortable though).

> >

> > I do like it . . . However, the only advantage I

> see

> > in it over other models is that HealthMate gives

> you a

> > lifetime warranty on the light units. It has a

> built

> > in radio, thermostat and timer. It has five

> lights.

> > Two in back, two in front, and a small one below

> the

> > bench.

> >

> > If I had it to do over, and money was no object, I

> > would like to have one large enough to lay down

> in. As

> > it is, if I sit sideways with my feet out, I fill

> the

> > bench.

> >

> > They are very economical to operate . . . More in

> the

> > line of burning five large light bulbs. I have

> mine in

> > a screened in, covered back porch. The porch is

> deep

> > enough that rain doesn't get to the top of the

> unit.

> > But even in the house, it wouldn't tax an air

> > conditioner.

> >

> > IMHO, one major consideration in buying one would

> be

> > how much the shipping cost would be. All things

> being

> > equal, I would order the one that costs the least

> to

> > ship. Mine came in one or two very heavy boxs. The

> > people from the Home Show delivered it to us.

> >

> > They come ready to assemble - mine had big snaps

> that

> > hold the box together. Assembling by directions is

> > essential.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given by licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician

> or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " -

> Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >