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Thane,

I talked to Matt Wood Tue. We're fine tuning some spleen and gall bladder stuff. I increased teasel 1 more drop, had really rough herx this am. Same happened with blue vervain. Not sure if I need bl. ver. My mucsle soreness is really really good today!!

Just need something to sop up absorb this awful am belly/mental yukpoop. I'm gonna try french green clay. And I need to remember to take wob N before brkfst.

Thane, Matt mentioned ledum for lyme. I looked it up. It also looks like it may help some animals with lyme really well. I think it's homeopathic. Perhaps your doggie might like it....

Tom

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 1:02:06 PMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)-Ammonia

Hi Thane,

You continue to be an exemplary leader, despite your own needs and issues.

How's your dog doing?

Be well,

Léna

Hi , I'm sorry, didn't mean to overwhelm you but i know the feeling. Here are the cliff notes.

1.You can try using an alkalizer such as the baking soda since its cheap. But if it doesn't seem to help much, or makes you feel worse then that means either you are not too acidic or you have ammonia that is reacting negatively to it.

So begin with a little baking soda on an empty stomach. If you feel worse then its probably a good idea to then purchase the supplement online called K MAG KG by Source Naturals.

Take K MAG KG for a week or so and then try the baking soda again and see if it produces better results.

Both of these remedies are cheap and can be quite effective... .so in my opinion a good place to spend our few dollars.

I hope that helps, but just keep throwing questions out here. I think there are many people who follow along these threads and are too tired or weak to participate but have many of the same questions we have. So when asking our questions we are usually helping someone else as well.

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, December 17, 2009 11:14:36 AMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)-Ammonia

Thane, I read what you wrote and digressed to being overwhelmed again. Are all the supps you mentioned at a health food store? Where do you buy them. Right now I have very little cash. I'm buying salt today if they have it at pharmacy.so so i wait to alkaline until it's affordable?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

, Yep, it is alkaline. So it can help reduce some of the herx reaction because we tend to feel pretty acidic during herxing from the toxins, etc..

One thing to keep in mind, when alkalizing the body, we need to make sure we've treated any ammonia toxicity issues. Ammonia is one of the common lyme toxins, which happens to be alkaline. If we alkalize our body when there is a lot of ammonia present it can exacerbate ammonia symptoms. Supps. like K MAG KG, L-Glutamine, NeuroAntitox ll, or Alpha KetoGlutaric Acid all help mop up excess ammonia.

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, December 17, 2009 12:25:13 AMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)

Thane, aNOTHER QUESTION ON BAKING SODA. Is it also alkaline? Does it also help/support your body handle herxing?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

, Are you asking if i've tried the baking soda? Yes, I use both the alka seltzer gold and the baking soda. I'm trying to use mostly baking soda to save money but the little ASG packets are so darn convienient. The citric acid in the ASG is what creates the fizzyness, but aside from that it is just alkaline minerals, just like baking soda. ASG has potassium and sodium bicarb, and the baking soda, the bicarb.

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com> To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, December 16, 2009 11:43:20 PMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)

sorry for misspell Thane.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

rhan,have you tried the 1/4 teas. of baking soda?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I think 1/4 teaspoon baking soda will do everything the ASG will do except get fizzy. And its a lot cheaper!

Thane

From: lymecure123 <tmmedia2000@ yahoo.com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sat, December 5, 2009 3:36:49 PMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing

chlorella from NOW is helpful sometimes for herxes. It's a green food, so is health for us anyway.

You can get a large for around $40. But it lasts...

Burbur and Pinella from Nutrimedix are also very helpful and last a long time--tincture drops. you can use burbur every half hour if your herxing bad, otherwise around meals. Alka seems to go quick, is expensive and short duration, but helpful when you need it.

Tom

From: Corey <Artforchange@ yahoo.com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:38:39 AMSubject: Economics and Herxing

Greetings Everyone,

Last week I think I had my first full blown herx care of the full moon. My symptoms have been mostly neurological (tingling, heaviness, and numbness in the limbs), and they proliferated in a major way on Monday night. Added to that was a feeling of overall nausea and tightness in my back that was so bad, I didn't know how I was going to make it through the night. Life for me has had to go on with work and such. I got on the train in the morning to go to work, and I didn't know if I was going to be able to stand up. I did, and I even made it through an 8-hr day (mostly on my feet) and a rehearsal later that night. I may be a glutton for punishment, but so far my bills haven't cared whether or not I'm herxing...

I did ease up on my protocols. Took myself off the amoxycillin they prescribed for an abcessed tooth. Got off of GSE (I used to have a slight allergy to grapefruit anyway), lowered the dose of teasel and some other tinctures I'm on. I'm doing better, but the neurological symptoms persist.

I'd like to be doing a little more. I just got MMS in the mail and would like to start tonight. I'm scared off going into full out herx because I have rehearsals and a film shoot coming up soon. So finally I get to my question!

I'm pretty low on funds right now, and I'm trying to figure out the cheapest things I can do to take the sting off a possible herx reaction. Alka seltzer gold? I'm only concerned with that because a lot of my symptoms may indicate that I have ammonia in my system, and I know that the two don't do so well together. Epsom salt baths? I'll throw in another coffee enema or two...

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

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Thane,I so appreciated the notes. You broke it down beautifully.Thanks

 

Thane,

I talked to Matt Wood Tue. We're fine tuning some spleen and gall bladder stuff. I increased teasel 1 more drop, had really rough herx this am. Same happened with blue vervain. Not sure if I need bl. ver. My mucsle soreness is really really good today!!

 

Just need something to sop up absorb this awful am belly/mental yukpoop. I'm gonna try french green clay. And I need to remember to take wob N before brkfst.

 

Thane, Matt mentioned ledum for lyme. I looked it up. It also looks like it may help some animals with lyme really well. I think it's homeopathic. Perhaps your doggie might like it....

 

Tom

To: Lyme_and_Rife

Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 1:02:06 PMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)-Ammonia

 

Hi Thane,

 

You continue to be an exemplary leader, despite your own needs and issues.

How's your dog doing?

Be well,

Léna

 

Hi , I'm sorry, didn't mean to overwhelm you but i know the feeling.  Here are the cliff notes.

 

1.You can try using an alkalizer such as the baking soda since its cheap.  But if it doesn't seem to help much, or makes you feel worse then that means either you are not too acidic or you have ammonia that is reacting negatively to it. 

 

 So begin with a little baking soda on an empty stomach. If you feel worse then its probably a good idea to then purchase the supplement online called K MAG KG  by Source Naturals. 

 

Take K MAG KG for a week or so and then try the baking soda again and see if it produces better results.

 

Both of these remedies are cheap and can be quite effective... .so in my opinion a good place to spend our few dollars.

 

I hope that helps, but just keep throwing questions out here.  I think there are many people who follow along these threads and are too tired or weak to participate but have many of the same questions we have.  So when asking our questions we are usually helping someone else as well.

 

Thane 

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, December 17, 2009 11:14:36 AM

Subject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)-Ammonia 

Thane, I read what you wrote and digressed to being overwhelmed again.  Are all the supps you mentioned at a health food store? Where do you buy  them. Right now I have very little cash. I'm buying salt today if they have it at pharmacy.

so so i wait to alkaline until it's affordable?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

 

, Yep, it is alkaline.  So it can help reduce some of the herx reaction because we tend to feel pretty acidic during herxing from the toxins, etc..

 

One thing to keep in mind, when alkalizing the body, we need to make sure we've treated any ammonia toxicity issues. Ammonia is one of the common lyme toxins, which happens to be alkaline.  If we alkalize our body when there is a lot of ammonia present it can exacerbate ammonia symptoms.  Supps. like K MAG KG, L-Glutamine, NeuroAntitox ll, or Alpha KetoGlutaric Acid all help mop up excess ammonia.

 

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 12:25:13 AMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)

 

Thane, aNOTHER QUESTION ON BAKING SODA.  Is it also alkaline? Does it also help/support your body handle herxing?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

 

, Are you asking if i've tried the baking soda?  Yes, I use both the alka seltzer gold and the baking soda.  I'm trying to use mostly baking soda to save money but the little ASG packets are so darn convienient.  The citric acid in the ASG is what creates the fizzyness, but aside from that it is just alkaline minerals, just like baking soda.  ASG has potassium and sodium bicarb, and the baking soda, the bicarb.

 

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com> To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, December 16, 2009 11:43:20 PM

Subject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)

 

sorry for misspell Thane.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

rhan,have you tried the 1/4 teas. of baking soda?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

 

I think 1/4 teaspoon baking soda will do everything the ASG will do except get fizzy.  And its a lot cheaper!

 

Thane

From: lymecure123 <tmmedia2000@ yahoo.com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 3:36:49 PMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing 

chlorella from NOW is helpful sometimes for herxes. It's a green food, so is health for us anyway.

You can get a large for around $40. But it lasts...

 

Burbur and Pinella from Nutrimedix are also very helpful and last a long time--tincture drops. you can use burbur every half hour if your herxing bad, otherwise around meals. Alka seems to go quick, is expensive and short duration, but helpful when you need it.

 

Tom

From: Corey <Artforchange@ yahoo.com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:38:39 AMSubject: Economics and Herxing 

Greetings Everyone,

Last week I think I had my first full blown herx care of the full moon.  My symptoms have been mostly neurological (tingling, heaviness, and numbness in the limbs), and they proliferated in a major way on Monday night.  Added to that was a feeling of overall nausea and tightness in my back that was so bad, I didn't know how I was going to make it through the night.  Life for me has had to go on with work and such.  I got on the train in the morning to go to work, and I didn't know if I was going to be able to stand up.  I did, and I even made it through an 8-hr day (mostly on my feet) and a rehearsal later that night.  I may be a glutton for punishment, but so far my bills haven't cared whether or not I'm herxing...

I did ease up on my protocols.  Took myself off the amoxycillin they prescribed for an abcessed tooth.  Got off of GSE (I used to have a slight allergy to grapefruit anyway), lowered the dose of teasel and some other tinctures I'm on.  I'm doing better, but the neurological symptoms persist.

I'd like to be doing a little more.  I just got MMS in the mail and would like to start tonight.  I'm scared off going into full out herx because I have rehearsals and a film shoot coming up soon.  So finally I get to my question!

I'm pretty low on funds right now, and I'm trying to figure out the cheapest things I can do to take the sting off a possible herx reaction.  Alka seltzer gold?  I'm only concerned with that because a lot of my symptoms may indicate that I have ammonia in my system, and I know that the two don't do so well together.  Epsom salt baths?  I'll throw in another coffee enema or two...

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks 

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You're welcome !

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 9:03:31 PMSubject: Re: Economics and thane...

Thane,I so appreciated the notes. You broke it down beautifully.Thanks

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:17 PM, lymecure123 <tmmedia2000@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Thane,

I talked to Matt Wood Tue. We're fine tuning some spleen and gall bladder stuff. I increased teasel 1 more drop, had really rough herx this am. Same happened with blue vervain. Not sure if I need bl. ver. My mucsle soreness is really really good today!!

Just need something to sop up absorb this awful am belly/mental yukpoop. I'm gonna try french green clay. And I need to remember to take wob N before brkfst.

Thane, Matt mentioned ledum for lyme. I looked it up. It also looks like it may help some animals with lyme really well. I think it's homeopathic. Perhaps your doggie might like it....

Tom

From: Guyot Léna <drumrollstny (DOT) rr.com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, December 17, 2009 1:02:06 PMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)-Ammonia

Hi Thane,

You continue to be an exemplary leader, despite your own needs and issues.

How's your dog doing?

Be well,

Léna

Hi , I'm sorry, didn't mean to overwhelm you but i know the feeling. Here are the cliff notes.

1.You can try using an alkalizer such as the baking soda since its cheap. But if it doesn't seem to help much, or makes you feel worse then that means either you are not too acidic or you have ammonia that is reacting negatively to it.

So begin with a little baking soda on an empty stomach. If you feel worse then its probably a good idea to then purchase the supplement online called K MAG KG by Source Naturals.

Take K MAG KG for a week or so and then try the baking soda again and see if it produces better results.

Both of these remedies are cheap and can be quite effective... .so in my opinion a good place to spend our few dollars.

I hope that helps, but just keep throwing questions out here. I think there are many people who follow along these threads and are too tired or weak to participate but have many of the same questions we have. So when asking our questions we are usually helping someone else as well.

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, December 17, 2009 11:14:36 AMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)-Ammonia

Thane, I read what you wrote and digressed to being overwhelmed again. Are all the supps you mentioned at a health food store? Where do you buy them. Right now I have very little cash. I'm buying salt today if they have it at pharmacy.so so i wait to alkaline until it's affordable?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

, Yep, it is alkaline. So it can help reduce some of the herx reaction because we tend to feel pretty acidic during herxing from the toxins, etc..

One thing to keep in mind, when alkalizing the body, we need to make sure we've treated any ammonia toxicity issues. Ammonia is one of the common lyme toxins, which happens to be alkaline. If we alkalize our body when there is a lot of ammonia present it can exacerbate ammonia symptoms. Supps. like K MAG KG, L-Glutamine, NeuroAntitox ll, or Alpha KetoGlutaric Acid all help mop up excess ammonia.

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, December 17, 2009 12:25:13 AMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)

Thane, aNOTHER QUESTION ON BAKING SODA. Is it also alkaline? Does it also help/support your body handle herxing?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

, Are you asking if i've tried the baking soda? Yes, I use both the alka seltzer gold and the baking soda. I'm trying to use mostly baking soda to save money but the little ASG packets are so darn convienient. The citric acid in the ASG is what creates the fizzyness, but aside from that it is just alkaline minerals, just like baking soda. ASG has potassium and sodium bicarb, and the baking soda, the bicarb.

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com> To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, December 16, 2009 11:43:20 PMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing-Alka Seltzer Gold (ASG)

sorry for misspell Thane.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

rhan,have you tried the 1/4 teas. of baking soda?

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I think 1/4 teaspoon baking soda will do everything the ASG will do except get fizzy. And its a lot cheaper!

Thane

From: lymecure123 <tmmedia2000@ yahoo.com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sat, December 5, 2009 3:36:49 PMSubject: Re: Economics and Herxing

chlorella from NOW is helpful sometimes for herxes. It's a green food, so is health for us anyway.

You can get a large for around $40. But it lasts...

Burbur and Pinella from Nutrimedix are also very helpful and last a long time--tincture drops. you can use burbur every half hour if your herxing bad, otherwise around meals. Alka seems to go quick, is expensive and short duration, but helpful when you need it.

Tom

From: Corey <Artforchange@ yahoo.com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:38:39 AMSubject: Economics and Herxing

Greetings Everyone,

Last week I think I had my first full blown herx care of the full moon. My symptoms have been mostly neurological (tingling, heaviness, and numbness in the limbs), and they proliferated in a major way on Monday night. Added to that was a feeling of overall nausea and tightness in my back that was so bad, I didn't know how I was going to make it through the night. Life for me has had to go on with work and such. I got on the train in the morning to go to work, and I didn't know if I was going to be able to stand up. I did, and I even made it through an 8-hr day (mostly on my feet) and a rehearsal later that night. I may be a glutton for punishment, but so far my bills haven't cared whether or not I'm herxing...

I did ease up on my protocols. Took myself off the amoxycillin they prescribed for an abcessed tooth. Got off of GSE (I used to have a slight allergy to grapefruit anyway), lowered the dose of teasel and some other tinctures I'm on. I'm doing better, but the neurological symptoms persist.

I'd like to be doing a little more. I just got MMS in the mail and would like to start tonight. I'm scared off going into full out herx because I have rehearsals and a film shoot coming up soon. So finally I get to my question!

I'm pretty low on funds right now, and I'm trying to figure out the cheapest things I can do to take the sting off a possible herx reaction. Alka seltzer gold? I'm only concerned with that because a lot of my symptoms may indicate that I have ammonia in my system, and I know that the two don't do so well together. Epsom salt baths? I'll throw in another coffee enema or two...

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks