Re: Devious & sadistic things to do to doctors

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Boy its strange you brought this thread up today. I succumbed to my

anger at a doc on the RA ng today. He literally called us stupid for

being confused on an issue . When I politiely told him we needed his

expertise not his sarcasm he went off on me. Said I was a prime example

of the failure of western (US) educational systems. That none of us had

any RIGHT to be posting our uneducated and stupid opinions on that or

any other ng or list.

That only researchers had any claim to any knowledge on the RA issue and

we spoonfed ourselves what we mistakenly took to be education and

now " spew " it to others.AAAARGH! Well....I layed into him let me tell

you. Push my buttons will he?

He is from New Zealand so has great disdain for our country obviously.

What was great is that a very intellectual person on our ng reminded him

that cannibalism was still prevalent in his country!!!LOL!

My pet peeve is these doctors who have never experienced any adversity

in their silver spoon lives coming down from their supposed loftier

positions to supply us withtheir so called expertise, without having any

knowledge of what it is like to really suffer. I can respect their

education, but not their bedside manners. The pomposity he resorted to

makes me wonder how he has any patients at all.

Or all we all such sheep around the medical profession that we think we

deserve to be treated that way. Well, not me, not in the office, and not

in circumstance. How about all of you? Give me some good comments for

this ass.

And Ken, I love the retriburtion. Just grand.

Lyn

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As much as I personally have no wish to participate in this discussion at

this time ( the topic upsets me too much and right now I don't need the

aggravation ) I feel in agreement with Lynda in that there seems to be a

segment of the medical profession that could really use some pain once in a

while. They might be more understanding. My last neuro-surgeon had the same

illness I have and it made things so easy to communicate and explain.

Mike

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> Re: Devious & sadistic things to do to doctors

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I have to say, after some thinking on my initial reaction to the original

post, I don't feel that this is something I would ever do, no matter how

awful the doctor or health professional was or treated me. I'm not into

vengeance. I've had a couple doctors that were less than stellar, by a long

shot, but still......

Unless this was all meant in jest, then I read it wrong!

CUL,

Ruthie

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Oh, no! Not ANOTHER learning experience!

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Personally, Ken, I find that few doctors have a sense of humor. When I make

comments like that to be funny, they just look at me as if I must be crazy. I

still do it anyway. At least I know they were listening.

Ray

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Lyn,

Right on! But the whole point of learning to play with doctors' heads is

you're gotta come up with your own options. Only then are we less

overwhelmed by their MD shtick (Minor Diety) and able to have better

perspective. I think even our medical listers would recognize the need for

this. Anyway, I expected to get blown away on my butt for even bringing up

such heresy! But you sure hung in their effectively, and you did come up

with a nice slur, the cannibalism thing. you might question him further

about that to rub it in; like has he found any relationship between

arthritis & chronic pain? Is it a good thing to do? Does he prescribe for

aging patients?

Some thinking on cannibalism is that it prolongs youth, However it may

carry the danger that the cannibal acquires even genetically transmitted

pathologies from the menu. with a little more creative thinking, you can

imply that he is a cannibal (I like to trade irrationality for

irrationality) & ask about getting second opinions from docs whose cultures

do not support cannibalism.

Sounds like it may be pretty easy to get under this guy's skin, and you

appear creative enough to do it. This is a very effective therapeutic

technique. but there is a risk of eliciting substantial anger (with this

doc, what fun!) However, most docs are bright enough to deal with it, & it

has all the makings of becoming a standing joke. Meanwhile, did you get

attention for what you needed?

Ken

At 04:26 AM 9/27/98 -0500, you wrote:

>From: lynmari@... (Lynda Gottschalk)

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>Boy its strange you brought this thread up today. I succumbed to my

>anger at a doc on the RA ng today. He literally called us stupid for

>being confused on an issue . When I politiely told him we needed his

>expertise not his sarcasm he went off on me. Said I was a prime example

>of the failure of western (US) educational systems. That none of us had

>any RIGHT to be posting our uneducated and stupid opinions on that or

>any other ng or list.

>That only researchers had any claim to any knowledge on the RA issue and

>we spoonfed ourselves what we mistakenly took to be education and

>now " spew " it to others.AAAARGH! Well....I layed into him let me tell

>you. Push my buttons will he?

>He is from New Zealand so has great disdain for our country obviously.

>What was great is that a very intellectual person on our ng reminded him

>that cannibalism was still prevalent in his country!!!LOL!

>My pet peeve is these doctors who have never experienced any adversity

>in their silver spoon lives coming down from their supposed loftier

>positions to supply us withtheir so called expertise, without having any

>knowledge of what it is like to really suffer. I can respect their

>education, but not their bedside manners. The pomposity he resorted to

>makes me wonder how he has any patients at all.

>Or all we all such sheep around the medical profession that we think we

>deserve to be treated that way. Well, not me, not in the office, and not

>in circumstance. How about all of you? Give me some good comments for

>this ass.

>And Ken, I love the retriburtion. Just grand.

>Lyn

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