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Hi All,

Since I answered a post last night just thought I should introduce

myself. I've been lurking for quite a while. I am the mom of an 11 yo

diagnosed with autism at three. We started out on the educational (ABA

mostly) track and made great progress but there are a few lingering

issues I'm trying to figure out solutions for. Thanks for all the good

info!

H.

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Vent all you want! Everyone needs to now and then! Besides, some people need to have thinking rearranged. I too am a business owner. Recently someone looked at my vehicle ( I drive a van, so we can do our camping and hiking trips with the kids, and just cuz I like it)and rather disparagingly said her tax lady drives a Mercedes. I just looked back and told her if my tax lady did I would feel I was paying her WAY too much! lolol She had nothing to say to that!

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Hey everyone, I have been following in the group for sometime and it's fresh funny a great way to assist people no matter what walk of life. Did post a comment previously. But I thought as well to formally introduce myself,,,, Jordan business owner and as well as knowing individual. Today was a day I was start to express myself I know that someone is reading at this, But today has been a breaking point for me: 1st off I know that this group assist people and found out about their regiment with regards to weight loss and believe I have been thru the whole weight loss routine,, even though I see as a lifestyle. There are valleys thru the experience. My point is nothing of that nature right now, get back to the point. I have gone thru an unhappy experience this morning which was I went to a headhunter for some assistance and the moment the guy see me and tells me that he can't help me because he deals

with high level execs(now I have my own business) and I have an extensive resume. Now that but some excuse that he was going to contact(seems to me the appearance across some act to see the response that I would of provided(believe I did give me what he was looking for). Believe talk about walking since this whole experience I have been walking miles since my car is nonexistence. I am grateful for that bit of time to talk to God as well because this a sad state of affair, not to sound whiny but hey, I was piss.HA HA I am started to come around the day is moving on and believe there is always tomorrow. I welcome anybody comment. I hope no will shy away because I very sweet person. I want thank you all for being there and listeningdougpapa@... wrote: Don't be a perpetrator,a victim,or a bystander.RDM Good morning RDM I hope you have a great Texas day. Jordan (404)409-3223 www.HelpfultoUandme.com "Your Vision Supercedes Your Presence""

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Rough day :-( Have faith and keep on keeping

on.. The best thing about bad days is they usually

get better at some point~!!!!

Have a " better " day!!!!

Griffmom in Indy

> Don't be a perpetrator,a victim,or a bystander.RDM

>

> Good morning RDM

> I hope you have a great Texas day.

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> http://www.thefatmanwalking.com/

> Keep walking Steve!!!

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Hi, my name is Yo. I have been following the discussion of the

group for a while. I live in San Diego (same as Steve) and I am a

weight management consultant and an author.

Nineteen years ago when I first came to the US, I gain 25 lbs in 3

months. I fought to lose the weight for 2 years and I know how hard it

is to lose weight, especially w/ American diet :-).

However, it's possible and never ever give up!

Best wishes,

Yo

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Welcome Joann and all newbies. You're probably right... it is your body crying out for sugar and diet soda. The cravings should end soon. Hang in there !! It is our diet that is making us fat. We have been told for so long that it is alright to super-size our meals and we have been ignoring the truth. It's time to lay down the fast food, eat healthy, non-processed food, and start moving our bodies. I have been in this group almost a year, and I think we are moving beyond Steve. We are also here to learn about others, care about one another and to help each other. It keeps getting bbetter and better. Best of luck to everyone who needs to lose weight.

Maggie

welcome to all the newbies of our group, im fairly new as well and am so blessed by reading the posts. Its my 3rd day of no sugar and no diet coke and excercise, boy ar emy arms and legs letting me know about itlol, i woke up really crabby today, i dont know if its the withdrawls from the sugar and soda affecting me or not, so i am praying God will sustain me today and not to fall back into old habits, i have always been an emotional eater, and i do not want to be imprisoned by that anylonger. I wish you all happiness and health and am glad you are here, the posts i am able to read from work as well and it really helps me day!

have a blessed day!

joann from missouri

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Thank you maggie, these posts really give me the lift up i need. Well i am not feeling as crabby and am already planning my workout for my first break at noon. Now, when noon comes around i just need to get up and get moving! I appreciate you all , thanks for caring!MAGGIMAY88@... wrote: Welcome Joann and all newbies. You're probably right... it is your body crying out for sugar and diet soda. The cravings should end soon. Hang in there !! It is our diet that is making us fat. We have been told for so long that it is alright to super-size our meals and we have been ignoring the truth. It's time to lay down the fast food, eat healthy, non-processed food, and start moving our bodies. I have been in this

group almost a year, and I think we are moving beyond Steve. We are also here to learn about others, care about one another and to help each other. It keeps getting bbetter and better. Best of luck to everyone who needs to lose weight. Maggie welcome to all the newbies of our group, im fairly new as well and am so blessed by reading the posts. Its my 3rd day of no sugar and no diet coke and excercise, boy ar emy arms and legs letting me know about itlol, i woke up really crabby today, i dont know if its the withdrawls from the sugar and soda affecting me or not, so i am praying God will sustain me today and not to fall back into old habits, i have always been an emotional eater, and i do not want to be imprisoned by that anylonger. I wish you all happiness and health and am glad you are

here, the posts i am able to read from work as well and it really helps me day! have a blessed day! joann from missouri

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Hi Joann,

Stay strong today!! In my opinion, the exercise should be your

number one priority, no sugar should be next, and no diet coke is

good, but at least it was not adding calories to your diet. But it

sounds like you were drinking A LOT of it!

Do you like iced tea at all? That is what I have substituted 90

percent for diet sodas. I make it fresh at my desk during the day -

one tea bag in a mug with hot water, then I fill up my glass with

ice and pour the hot tea over the ice. I use Splenda and you might

too since you are trying for no sugar. The fun thing about iced tea

is there are so many different flavors and types to try. And it

satisfies my need to be sipping or chewing on something throughout

the day. I am a person who tends to overeat when I am nervous,

bored, anxious, or tired. Oh, and also when I'm hungry :)

Alice

>

> welcome to all the newbies of our group, im fairly new as well and

am so blessed by reading the posts. Its my 3rd day of no sugar and

no diet coke and excercise, boy ar emy arms and legs letting me know

about itlol, i woke up really crabby today, i dont know if its the

withdrawls from the sugar and soda affecting me or not, so i am

praying God will sustain me today and not to fall back into old

habits, i have always been an emotional eater, and i do not want to

be imprisoned by that anylonger. I wish you all happiness and health

and am glad you are here, the posts i am able to read from work as

well and it really helps me day!

> have a blessed day!

>

> joann from missouri

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well i havent had the problem in a while, but lately sometimes just

before bed i can end up freezing, then i wake up later roasting, very

uncomfortable.

oh the iodine disapeared off my arm with a couple of hours, but it

wasnt pure iodine it had other first aid ingrediants in it.

i guess i'd better make sure my multi vitamin has enough iodine in it.

A lot don't because they assume you are getting it in your salt.

laurie

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> In a message dated 4/12/2006 4:51:29 PM Central Standard Time,

> spamthekat@... writes:

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> i used to always by cold, i wonder if that is a symptom of iodine

> dificiency? i think i will try that iodine test...

>

>

>

> Laurie

> This is one symptom. Before I took the iodine test and started

taking Iosil

> I would some time wake up at night feeling like I was freezing to

death

> while Sondy was still comfortable.

>

>

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Gerard, I was in New Orleans last week. We on the Mississippi Gulf Coast have been saying "why is New Orleans getting all the press about Katrina destruction?" Now I know. New Orleans East is a ghost town, out by the Lakefront as well. Too sad. We sat near some locals at lunch and one explained it so well to me. He said, "Your houses were flooded with sea water for less than twelve hours. Our houses sat for weeks with water plus every sort of contamination." One of my sons had five feet of water in his house, nowhere near a federally mandated flood zone, 1 1/2 miles from the Gulf. He had to pull drywall, carpets, and trash all appliances, and most furniture, plus wiring and heating and cooling replaced, but still he has a home. I live a block from the gulf and got no flooding. I was amazed to learn that the areas closest to the Mississippi river (French Quarter, Garden District, etc) . stayed high and dry. Hope you did not get flooding where you live. W.

PS Seafood is rich in iodine, so if you eat good ole New Orleans food, you probably get plenty in your diet without salting food.

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In my case, when my parents were still living (I was living with them) my mother due to her health problems was put on a salt free dite.Although we live in New Orleans with quite a bit of spicy foods, because of the salt restrictions I now rarely use salt & with the Iodine comments earlier will check my Iodine as soon as I can go to the store to get some.Gerard>> my father salts everything, like mad. but my mom wouldnt let us> kids emulate him, so thank goodness I didnt learn to do the same.> My brother is another matter...> > you know the iodine thing has gotten my thinking, we ate virtually> no salt as a family and my mom always cooked home made food so it> wasnt like we were going out for mcdonalds or pizza or buying> frozen food.> > i used to always by cold, i wonder if that is a symptom of iodine> dificiency? i think i will try that iodine test...> > laurie

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Joann...wish you were closer...I would walk all day with you....course that is the day before the last day of tax season so I will probably be working 15 hours...but I would try! lol

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Thank you, . Yesterday was a great day indeed. I ate lunch at Texas Fried Chicken and has a story to tell the group. Take care, Yo dougpapa@... wrote: Best wishes, Yo Good morning Have a great day

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you are sooooooooo sweet ,, i am sittin at work gigglin, i know my co workers think im nuts, i will walk on sunday , this excercise stuff is all new to me and im excited, i am very very overweight but one time, i was hot to trot lol (that dates me doesnt it) lol i am goin to walk on saturday too, i am going to miss my work out gym at work this weekend lol bless you for your kindness! joannjjsmth@... wrote: Joann...wish you were closer...I would walk all day with you....course that is the day before the last day of tax season so I will probably be working 15 hours...but I would try! lol Janehttp://www.thefatmanwalking.com/Keep walking Steve!!!

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You are in a good place.

Yes cirrhosis causes incredible fatigue and weakness. My mom slept most all of

the time.

It is so great that you are able to help your mom.

Pamela

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Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm

decluttering under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours,

lots of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as

I was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for

mom. Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All

over again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every

couple hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which

is really strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do

cry. I miss her something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to

give the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember

the One who is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times,

don't be afraid to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and

continue to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much

STUFF has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore,

touched etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

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I'm trying to help as much as I can. We have a 3 year old daughter so it

makes my parnets happy when I take her up there. I feel so helpless b/c my

mom is scared to be away from the house to long worrying that he might fall

or something.

I didn't realize how weak and fatigued Cirrhosis made you. It seems like he

was fatigued then all of a sudden he was sleeing most of the day & night.

Tina

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[mailto:livercirrhosissupport ] On Behalf Of Pamela on

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You are in a good place.

Yes cirrhosis causes incredible fatigue and weakness. My mom slept most all

of the time.

It is so great that you are able to help your mom.

Pamela

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Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm

decluttering under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours,

lots of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as

I was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for

mom. Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All

over again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every

couple hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which

is really strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do

cry. I miss her something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to

give the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember

the One who is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times,

don't be afraid to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and

continue to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much

STUFF has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore,

touched etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

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Okay...I've got a couple more questions.

Have any of you encountered 'oral thrust' along with Cirrhosis? My dad saw

an ENT last week and that's what they said he had and they gave him Nystatin

to swish.

My mom just called me and said his legs and feet were a purplish color and

his hands and feet are cold (sometimes he wears socks on his hands...we're

in Florida & don't really use gloves).

She went to MayoClinic.com and searched " purple feet " . Although it comes up

with 10 different things it could be...I think she feels it's mottling.

Does anyone have any experience with this???

Tina

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From: livercirrhosissupport

[mailto:livercirrhosissupport ] On Behalf Of Tina

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:22 PM

To: livercirrhosissupport

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I'm trying to help as much as I can. We have a 3 year old daughter so it

makes my parnets happy when I take her up there. I feel so helpless b/c my

mom is scared to be away from the house to long worrying that he might fall

or something.

I didn't realize how weak and fatigued Cirrhosis made you. It seems like he

was fatigued then all of a sudden he was sleeing most of the day & night.

Tina

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From: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrhosissupport%40yahoogroups.com>

rt

[mailto:livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrhosissupport%40yahoogroups.com>

rt ] On Behalf Of Pamela on

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:44 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrhosissupport%40yahoogroups.com>

rt

Subject: Re: Intro

You are in a good place.

Yes cirrhosis causes incredible fatigue and weakness. My mom slept most all

of the time.

It is so great that you are able to help your mom.

Pamela

Re: Intro

Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm

decluttering under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours,

lots of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as

I was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for

mom. Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All

over again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every

couple hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which

is really strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do

cry. I miss her something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to

give the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember

the One who is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times,

don't be afraid to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and

continue to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much

STUFF has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore,

touched etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

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Hi, Tina. I still have oral thrush from July. I was misdiagnosed in the ER. Sent

away as a hypochondriac. Now I find it is written in my record that I was

diagnosed with acute pharyngitis, which is doctorese for sore throat. I had to

go to an outside doctor to get a true diagnosis, and then a month of swish

accompanied by fluconazole tablets three times a day along with zithromycin,

which I do not even know why zith was prescribed as thrush usually accompanies a

course of antbiotics. Get this, my hepatologist, based on the fact that his

liver patients are not all suffering from thrush, told me that it isnt related

to liver disease, and yet every other doctor I saw said it was. Bobby, aka rwe

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

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Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:15:29 PM

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Okay...I've got a couple more questions.

Have any of you encountered 'oral thrust' along with Cirrhosis? My dad saw

an ENT last week and that's what they said he had and they gave him Nystatin

to swish.

My mom just called me and said his legs and feet were a purplish color and

his hands and feet are cold (sometimes he wears socks on his hands...we're

in Florida & don't really use gloves).

She went to MayoClinic.com and searched " purple feet " . Although it comes up

with 10 different things it could be...I think she feels it's mottling.

Does anyone have any experience with this???

Tina

_____

From: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

[mailto:livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Tina

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:22 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: Intro

I'm trying to help as much as I can. We have a 3 year old daughter so it

makes my parnets happy when I take her up there. I feel so helpless b/c my

mom is scared to be away from the house to long worrying that he might fall

or something.

I didn't realize how weak and fatigued Cirrhosis made you. It seems like he

was fatigued then all of a sudden he was sleeing most of the day & night.

Tina

_____

From: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

[mailto:livercirrho sissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Pamela on

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:44 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Intro

You are in a good place.

Yes cirrhosis causes incredible fatigue and weakness. My mom slept most all

of the time.

It is so great that you are able to help your mom.

Pamela

Re: Intro

Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm

decluttering under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours,

lots of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as

I was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for

mom. Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All

over again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every

couple hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which

is really strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do

cry. I miss her something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to

give the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember

the One who is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times,

don't be afraid to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and

continue to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much

STUFF has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore,

touched etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

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That is so moving. Ardis always forbid me from " snooping through her stuff " in

the shed, which I would NEVER do to a guest, but after she died, I had to sort

just out of necessity. I wanted to reclaim my shed. I found a box, and in it was

all of her crystals, and there was a ceramic crucifix. I turned it over, and

scratched in to it, before the firing process she carved her name- ARDIS, 2002.

God is good. I am so glad you found the card. Memories are precious, and this is

one reason I fear encephalopathy so much. I do not want to ever forget her. She

was here last night, in my dreams, and I don't remember the whole context of

what she said to me, but the feeling lingered all day.

Bless you, love Bobby aka rwe

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

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Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 3:22:26 AM

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i have a chest type table i keep memories of my son in ...i was looking

for a book this morn and thought maybe i put it in the chest to keep it away

from my grandson. i opened the chest and had to read the last mothers day card

my son gave to me after he died...he had prob 2 dozen boxes transported to my

home when he died the service people brought them to me from VA..then the

funeral director brought them to my home...they were piled up in my kitchen

every one told me to leave them alone for now ...all i wanted to do was smell

him feel him...i opened one box ...let me open one box so i did of all the boxes

i could of opened it was the one that had the belated mothers day card on

top...he told me how much he loved me all that i taught him and how i helped to

form him as a man...he talked about respect...then wrote me a poem...i will

share if you want me to...later.. .OH what a gift from my Lord...

____________ _________ _________ __

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To: Livercirrhosissuppo rt <livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com>

Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:29:37 AM

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There is a green shirt I have on the back of my couch, and I call it my crying

shirt. She wore it on the visit to the hepatologist. She wore it again in the

ambulance to the hospice. I drink my coffee from a cup I gave her in 1997. I

gave her my stuffed frog for Christmas in 2004, and somehow had a feeling I

would be getting it back. Ardis named him " Jaques Peppin " and you see him with

me in every picture on my blog in the hospital.

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ya, well here I was tucking in the last of the stuff into the medical supplies

box and I found the pink basin they give you at the hospital. Inside it was a

single hair from my mom....that was it.....I burst into tears, to touch a part

of her....I miss her so much!

Jesus can't come soon enough to please me...but I know he is being patient so

everyone can have a chance to know Him.....and these feelings are kind of

worldly, earthly feelings, not heavenly feelings. I don't think I love the way

Jesus loves, but He's working on me.

Thanks for your kind words and prayers Diane!

Love you,

Pamela

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<And now everything my mom made, wore, touched etc..I can't seem to part with.>

Pamela,

Don't rush that. The time will come when it will seem right to go through your

Mom's things and part with some of them.. Some you'll never want to part with.

Grief is a process and it shouldn't be rushed. Let it happen in it's own time.

The Lord will give you peace about letting go of her things when the time is

right for you. I'm praying for you cause I've been where you are now.

Hugs........ .

Diane

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I was told that it is a side effect of the high doses of prednisone.

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> Hi, Tina. I still have oral thrush from July. I was misdiagnosed in

the ER. Sent away as a hypochondriac. Now I find it is written in my

record that I was diagnosed with acute pharyngitis, which is doctorese

for sore throat. I had to go to an outside doctor to get a true

diagnosis, and then a month of swish accompanied by fluconazole

tablets three times a day along with zithromycin, which I do not even

know why zith was prescribed as thrush usually accompanies a course of

antbiotics. Get this, my hepatologist, based on the fact that his

liver patients are not all suffering from thrush, told me that it isnt

related to liver disease, and yet every other doctor I saw said it

was. Bobby, aka rwe

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a very similar story.....They shared Mom's house that she bought as a single mom

many years before their marriage. Then suddenly, after she'd been in the nursing

home for a few years, us kids were no longer welcome in the house....then his

kids showed up ,after never coming around their Mom & French's whole married

life...and they made sure we were never in the house again. When we were finally

allowed to get our family heirlooms etc, French's daughter went thru the house

with him and packed up everything that was " his " , before we were allowed to go

in....and French was going into dementia at the time---claiming to see people in

the room with him!  And yet they decided he was lucid enough to make those

decisions.   We were never allowed to know what things he and his daughter took.

I am still bitter about it.......but don't have to deal with them anymore and

God forgive me....good riddance!!  I'm like you....I've got plenty of other

stuff on my

plate and With my arthritis & Fibro, it's not worth the effort. We just have to

move on!!

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

Subject: Re: Intro

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:15 PM

<And now everything my mom made, wore, touched etc..I can't seem to part with.>

Pamela,

Don't rush that.  The time will come when it will seem right to go through your

Mom's things and part with some of them.  Some you'll never want to part with. 

Grief is a process and it shouldn't be rushed.  Let it happen in it's own time. 

The Lord will give you peace about letting go of her things when the time is

right for you.  I'm praying for you cause I've been where you are now.

Hugs........ .

Diane

Re: Intro

Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm decluttering

under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours, lots

of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as I

was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for mom.

Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All over

again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every couple

hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which is really

strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do cry. I miss her

something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to give

the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember the One who

is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times, don't be afraid

to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and continue

to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much STUFF

has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore, touched

etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

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At my uncle 's recent funeral, there was still an apparent rift in full

bore after 20 long years. My grandfather moved in to the big city of Denver in

the late 60's and bought a small house on the east side. Now he was retired

from the coal mines of southern Colorado, and had black lung, and declared that

he was " dying " . This " dying " phase encompassed his entire life, and his

youngest son agreed to have his name added to the mortgage in case of

Grandfather's demise. Oldest sister lived next to Grandfather, and thorough the

hard years of the oil embargo double digit inflation, and later 20% interest

rates in the 80's, oldest daughter, my aunt Margaret helped pay that house

payment for years. Fast forward, to my grandfather's death bed, his dying wish

is to have that little house kept in the family, to be a central meeting place

for a family now in the hundreds.(8 brothers and sisters, +kids+grandkids+great

grandkids>) The reading of the

will... Son who was added to the morgage has brought a lawsuit. He alone will

own the house,and gets the Denver sheriff to kick out aunt Delores, who had been

living in the house. The house goes to uncle Gil, and the siblings are

ostracized. Now, years later, half have forgiven him, the other half have not.

It is to this day an ugly affair. Especially at family reunions, weddings and

funerals. Long ago , my grandfather rolled over in his grave. Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 8:21:56 AM

Subject: Re: Intro

a very similar story.....They shared Mom's house that she bought as a single mom

many years before their marriage. Then suddenly, after she'd been in the nursing

home for a few years, us kids were no longer welcome in the house....then his

kids showed up ,after never coming around their Mom & French's whole married

life...and they made sure we were never in the house again. When we were finally

allowed to get our family heirlooms etc, French's daughter went thru the house

with him and packed up everything that was " his " , before we were allowed to go

in....and French was going into dementia at the time---claiming to see people in

the room with him! And yet they decided he was lucid enough to make those

decisions. We were never allowed to know what things he and his daughter took.

I am still bitter about it.......but don't have to deal with them anymore and

God forgive me....good riddance!! I'm like you....I've got plenty of other

stuff on my

plate and With my arthritis & Fibro, it's not worth the effort. We just have to

move on!!

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>

Subject: Re: Intro

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:15 PM

<And now everything my mom made, wore, touched etc..I can't seem to part with.>

Pamela,

Don't rush that. The time will come when it will seem right to go through your

Mom's things and part with some of them. Some you'll never want to part with.

Grief is a process and it shouldn't be rushed. Let it happen in it's own time.

The Lord will give you peace about letting go of her things when the time is

right for you. I'm praying for you cause I've been where you are now.

Hugs........ .

Diane

Re: Intro

Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm decluttering

under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours, lots

of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as I

was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for mom.

Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All over

again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every couple

hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which is really

strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do cry. I miss her

something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to give

the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember the One who

is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times, don't be afraid

to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and continue

to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much STUFF

has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore, touched

etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

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Wow...since July! My dad was having trouble swallowing so they went to the

ENT and had a barium swallow.

Tina

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From: livercirrhosissupport

[mailto:livercirrhosissupport ] On Behalf Of Bob Aragon

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:29 PM

To: livercirrhosissupport

Subject: Re: Intro

Hi, Tina. I still have oral thrush from July. I was misdiagnosed in the ER.

Sent away as a hypochondriac. Now I find it is written in my record that I

was diagnosed with acute pharyngitis, which is doctorese for sore throat. I

had to go to an outside doctor to get a true diagnosis, and then a month of

swish accompanied by fluconazole tablets three times a day along with

zithromycin, which I do not even know why zith was prescribed as thrush

usually accompanies a course of antbiotics. Get this, my hepatologist, based

on the fact that his liver patients are not all suffering from thrush, told

me that it isnt related to liver disease, and yet every other doctor I saw

said it was. Bobby, aka rwe

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

________________________________

From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_beagle%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrhosissupport%40yahoogroups.com>

rt

Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:15:29 PM

Subject: RE: Intro

Okay...I've got a couple more questions.

Have any of you encountered 'oral thrust' along with Cirrhosis? My dad saw

an ENT last week and that's what they said he had and they gave him Nystatin

to swish.

My mom just called me and said his legs and feet were a purplish color and

his hands and feet are cold (sometimes he wears socks on his hands...we're

in Florida & don't really use gloves).

She went to MayoClinic.com and searched " purple feet " . Although it comes up

with 10 different things it could be...I think she feels it's mottling.

Does anyone have any experience with this???

Tina

_____

From: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

[mailto:livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Tina

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:22 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: Intro

I'm trying to help as much as I can. We have a 3 year old daughter so it

makes my parnets happy when I take her up there. I feel so helpless b/c my

mom is scared to be away from the house to long worrying that he might fall

or something.

I didn't realize how weak and fatigued Cirrhosis made you. It seems like he

was fatigued then all of a sudden he was sleeing most of the day & night.

Tina

_____

From: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups.

com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

[mailto:livercirrho sissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups.

com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Pamela on

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:44 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Intro

You are in a good place.

Yes cirrhosis causes incredible fatigue and weakness. My mom slept most all

of the time.

It is so great that you are able to help your mom.

Pamela

Re: Intro

Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm

decluttering under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours,

lots of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as

I was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for

mom. Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All

over again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every

couple hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which

is really strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do

cry. I miss her something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to

give the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember

the One who is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times,

don't be afraid to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and

continue to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much

STUFF has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore,

touched etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

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