Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Wow this sounds like it's gonna get ugly. I seem to be seeing more clearly why licensing is a must. Lou Moramarco IBCLC Birth, Breastfeeding & Before International Board Certified Lactation Consultant Bradley Childbirth Educator Certified Birth Doula (732) 239-7771 marylou22@... www.lunadoula.com Advisory Notice: Email is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, Title 18, Sections 2510-2521 of the United States Code and is legally privileged. Internet email is inherently insecure. Message content may be subject to alteration, and email addresses may incorrectly identify the sender. If you wish to confirm the content of this message and/or the identity of the sender, please call me. This email transmission, and any documents, files, or previous email messages attached to it may be privileged and confidential, and are intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named in the address field. The information contained in this electronic message is information protected by health provider-client and or the health provider/work product privilege. It is intended only for the use of the individual named above and the privileges are not waived by virtue of this having been sent by electronic mail. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please call me or return email and delete it and any attachments from your computer. This email does not create a health provider-client relationship. Thank you. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Mc Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:07 AM To: Subject: " professional lactation guides " The theme of the current issue of Midwifery Today is Breastfeeding - I haven't read it all yet but I did read " Meeting the Need: Building Communities of Lactation Support " by Angelique Chelton, Certified Lactation Counselor. Her first suggestion includes conducting a survey of local bfing support, are there IBCLCs CLCs, CLEs, support groups in your area? " Take some time to understand just what services these professionals are offering and to whom. Please abandon unsupported ideas that assert that some lactation guides are better than others. Just as there is no hierarchy between various types of midwives, there is no hierarchy in professional lactation support. Be willing to consider that perhaps the letters behind a name don't matter as much as the heart, mind and experience of the guide. Let's be brave and take into account that all kinds of lactation guides have something valuable to offer the women in our community. " I agree that all of the various forms of lactation support are valuable - but the comparison is wrong. You wouldn't ask a doula to stitch up a torn perineum or a midwife to perform a c-section. ~ McCormick, IBCLC Shelburne, VT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 wrote, "I agree that all of the various forms of lactation support are valuable - but the comparison is wrong. You wouldn't ask a doula to stitch up a torn perineum or a midwife to perform a c-section."Well said! Lynn Thiebaud, RN, IBCLCA Perfect Fit Lactation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Re: this magazine's (I suppose? Perhaps it is electronic media only, I used to get an electronic newsletter from Midwifery Today)....regardless, message. '...abandon unsupported ideas that assert some lactation guides are better than others'. We are in service to mothers and babies. It is a grave disservice to the mothers and babies we support when the focus is turned to 'leveling the playing field' of qualifications out of our own personal desire to avoid reflecting upon or examining the qualifications that are necessary to develop the various knowledge, skills, and abilities that are a desirable component of breastfeeding support. It becomes evident to me that this is personal for the author as I read her assertion that there is no existence of a 'hierarchy' among midwives, nor professional lactation support. The use of the word 'hierarchy' implies to me that this issue is personal for her. It's not a hierarchy, which implies superiors and subordinates. Yet those 'credentials' *are* related to a demonstrated degree of experience, knowledge, skills, abilities, values and attitudes. By earning the credential of the IBCLC the professional has demonstrated they possess the minimum criteria to earn the credential. This is the simplest way of informing consumers that this professional possesses at a minimum these skills. The other credentials are so mired in a variety of criteria to earn the credential, nobody can really know for certain what was necessary for this particular professional to earn their 'alphabet soup'. I don't need to be *brave* (as the author suggests) to acknowledge the value each of these professionals brings to the breastfeeding dyad! I just need to work with moms and babies to know it! It has also been well researched the value of a variety of types of lactation support, that's not rocket science. The bravery comes perhaps when we are willing to reflect upon the skills each of these professionals must possess and acknowledge that in some cases (certainly not all) the qualifications of the IBCLC are much more suitable to mitigate the obstacles this pair is having as compared to some of the other credentials. When we do that we make it about the dyad, not the professional. And that's where the focus should be. And it's *the right thing to do* when we as IBCLCs refer mothers to perhaps, one another when we acknowledge the pair would benefit from the experience, knowledge and expertise of a specific IBCLC who has distinguished herself in a particular area of the discipline, or to another health professional, chiro, CST, MD etc. when the needs of the dyad exceed our knowledge, skills and abilities, yet we recognize the other professionals perspective will be helpful as well. It's selfish not to do so. Those circumstances warrant a referral because other people are going to serve the pair more capably (I know this is a generalization.....you all know what I mean...find someone who is informed about lactation *and* their discipline so the referral works and isn't sabotaging breastfeeding). I feel like the hairs on the back of people's necks raise up because they are taking the references to their level of skill and abilities related to their 'credentials' personally and they are not willing to abandon their own personal desire to be the resource moms and babies seek in the interest of helping the pair. It's really very selfish. > > The theme of the current issue of Midwifery Today is Breastfeeding - I haven't read it all yet but I did read " Meeting the Need: Building Communities of Lactation Support " by Angelique Chelton, Certified Lactation Counselor. Her first suggestion includes conducting a survey of local bfing support, are there IBCLCs CLCs, CLEs, support groups in your area? " Take some time to understand just what services these professionals are offering and to whom. Please abandon unsupported ideas that assert that some lactation guides are better than others. Just as there is no hierarchy between various types of midwives, there is no hierarchy in professional lactation support. Be willing to consider that perhaps the letters behind a name don't matter as much as the heart, mind and experience of the guide. Let's be brave and take into account that all kinds of lactation guides have something valuable to offer the women in our community. " > > I agree that all of the various forms of lactation support are valuable - but the comparison is wrong. You wouldn't ask a doula to stitch up a torn perineum or a midwife to perform a c-section. > > ~ McCormick, IBCLC > Shelburne, VT > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Oh my gosh! ok. every one os us needs to write an article similar to the one I wrote. gotta get the truth out there! Beebe, M.Ed., IBCLC Lactation Consultant/Postpartum Doula www.second9months.comwww.facebook.com/thesecond9months.--- Subject: "professional lactation guides"To: Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 4:06 AM The theme of the current issue of Midwifery Today is Breastfeeding - I haven't read it all yet but I did read "Meeting the Need: Building Communities of Lactation Support" by Angelique Chelton, Certified Lactation Counselor. Her first suggestion includes conducting a survey of local bfing support, are there IBCLCs CLCs, CLEs, support groups in your area? "Take some time to understand just what services these professionals are offering and to whom. Please abandon unsupported ideas that assert that some lactation guides are better than others. Just as there is no hierarchy between various types of midwives, there is no hierarchy in professional lactation support. Be willing to consider that perhaps the letters behind a name don't matter as much as the heart, mind and experience of the guide. Let's be brave and take into account that all kinds of lactation guides have something valuable to offer the women in our community." I agree that all of the various forms of lactation support are valuable - but the comparison is wrong. You wouldn't ask a doula to stitch up a torn perineum or a midwife to perform a c-section. ~ McCormick, IBCLC Shelburne, VT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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