Guest guest Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Anyone implanted after 1992 is considered to be informed . .. even though the manufacturer's were denying the claims women were making about being sick - while making settlements behind closed doors! Rogene --- ktitko <ktitko@...> wrote: > > That is the interesting thing about my case... it > was so long ago > that there were NO possible dangers reported! I have > all my original > paperwork and I just read over it. At the time, > saline was > considered as safe as safe can be. As you said... > NOT!!! > > Thanks or the info! > > > > Mr. Derrick saulsberry is willing to talk to any > and > > all of us with these Implants, etc > > > > His number is 713-522-0033 > > Email - dsaulsberry@s... > > > > You might check here. > > > > But don't get your hopes up . . . > > > > When you got your implants, that " Informed > Consent " > > you signed virtually absolved the manufacturer's > and > > doctors of all responsibility. . . Supposedly you > were > > told of all the possible dangers! NOT! > > > > There is another attorney I will try to find an > > address for. > > > > Good Luck! > > > > Rogene > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 That's strange, that they would call salines new. . . They were around some time before the 1992 ban on gel. Doesn't matter, they both have silicone shells, and both use platinum to make the shells solid! Good Luck, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 That’s interesting because I just had three consults with the last three months and was informed that they were 100% safe and inert! I was told the exact same thing by all three plastic surgeons. Obviously either the plastic surgeons believe the implants are safe or they are all liars! Kenda Anyone implanted after 1992 is considered to be informed . .. even though the manufacturer's were denying the claims women were making about being sick - while making settlements behind closed doors! Rogene --- ktitko <ktitko@...> wrote: > > That is the interesting thing about my case... it > was so long ago > that there were NO possible dangers reported! I have > all my original > paperwork and I just read over it. At the time, > saline was > considered as safe as safe can be. As you said... > NOT!!! > > Thanks or the info! > > > > Mr. Derrick saulsberry is willing to talk to any > and > > all of us with these Implants, etc > > > > His number is 713-522-0033 > > Email - dsaulsberry@s... > > > > You might check here. > > > > But don't get your hopes up . . . > > > > When you got your implants, that " Informed > Consent " > > you signed virtually absolved the manufacturer's > and > > doctors of all responsibility. . . Supposedly you > were > > told of all the possible dangers! NOT! > > > > There is another attorney I will try to find an > > address for. > > > > Good Luck! > > > > Rogene > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 I don’t understand why the medical profession is the way it is. I really don’t believe it is ALL about money because there are good doctors who are ignorant to silicone poisoning. I know there are others who will do anything to make a buck. I enlightened my chiropractor who is an excellent doc. He is against implants for other reasons but knew of no medical reason not to get saline, after all, they’re just bags of water! We had a 30-minute conversation and he know understands and was totally shocked. MD’s need proof that glares at them in the face that can’t be looked at more than one way — like a a bad facelift, it’s pretty darn obvious. MDs also don’t believe in detoxing the system or a lot of the things NDs believe in, totally different ways to treat the body. NDs try to prevent illness, MDs treat it, I believe without even caring what the cause is. Kenda I went to my doctors less than 4 months ago telling them that I thought my implants were making me sick, and that I had read reports about it online. My OB/GYN looked me straight in the face and told me that I was crazy, that " there is no such thing as silicone poisoning, it's been proven " and told me to go to my MD and get some strong antidepressants. That's the same story the MD gave me and that I've been given for years. Most doctors don't want to believe there is a problem so they choose to ignore the evidence. I will be sending a nice little packet of proof to that OB/GYN and let him know that it is doctors like him who have kept women like me sick all these years! > >>> > > Mr. Derrick saulsberry is willing to talk to any > >> > and > >>> > > all of us with these Implants, etc > >>> > > > >>> > > His number is 713-522-0033 > >>> > > Email - dsaulsberry@s... > >>> > > > >>> > > You might check here. > >>> > > > >>> > > But don't get your hopes up . . . > >>> > > > >>> > > When you got your implants, that " Informed > >> > Consent " > >>> > > you signed virtually absolved the manufacturer's > >> > and > >>> > > doctors of all responsibility. . . Supposedly you > >> > were > >>> > > told of all the possible dangers! NOT! > >>> > > > >>> > > There is another attorney I will try to find an > >>> > > address for. > >>> > > > >>> > > Good Luck! > >>> > > > >>> > > Rogene > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care > > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 I agree with you completely!! The pretest is a fabulous idea. I think most doctors have a God complex and simply can’t admit they don’t know everything. The good ones admit it and try to help. Kenda You're right, there are good doctors who are simply misinformed or totally uninformed. If I told you everything the doctors have told me over the years to try to come up with excuses as to why I feel like crud you'd laugh. So many of them just say anything to get you out of the office. then there are those that are honest and admit that they don't know why, can't find anything wrong. I have been trying to find the information about this for years and nothing came up until the story on CNN this past week. I have written to Oprah, CNN, and others, trying to get someone to hear me and believe me. I want my case documented! I want to be able to show proof to all of the doctors who don't know or believe. I think women should have to undergo some form of pretest before implantation to see whther or not they have reactions to it. Not everyone reacts badly, but those who do are miserable! > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Mr. Derrick saulsberry is willing to talk to any > >>>>> > >> > and > >>>>>>> > >>> > > all of us with these Implants, etc > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > His number is 713-522-0033 > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Email - dsaulsberry@s... > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > You might check here. > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > But don't get your hopes up . . . > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > When you got your implants, that " Informed > >>>>> > >> > Consent " > >>>>>>> > >>> > > you signed virtually absolved the manufacturer's > >>>>> > >> > and > >>>>>>> > >>> > > doctors of all responsibility. . . Supposedly you > >>>>> > >> > were > >>>>>>> > >>> > > told of all the possible dangers! NOT! > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > There is another attorney I will try to find an > >>>>>>> > >>> > > address for. > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Good Luck! > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Rogene > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice > > given by licensed > >>> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > > health care > >>> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > >>> > > > >>> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > > mislead you. > >>> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about > > how to live a > >>> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, > > two-time > >>> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >>> > > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 how do they test for silicone poisoning?? mentor sent me a silicone BOOB when i called them and asked why they sent me a BOOB THEY told me to take it to an allergist and tell him to test me with it well they were SHOCKED and didint know what to do with it i still havent found anyone who knows what to do with it so THE BOOB JUST SITS ON MY COUNTER funny aint it thats how mentor tests for silicone poisoning i got them after breast cancer so not only was chemo making me sick mentor made me sicker i just got back from mayo clinic and they said ABSOLUTELY NO WAY SILICONE CAN MAKE ME SICK WELL TO FIND OUT THEY DID PART OF THE STUDY TO PROVE (HA HA) THEY DONT MAKE PEOPLE SICK THEY TOLD ME I WAS DEPRESSED AND HAD FIBROMYLASIA HA HA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 I believe MDs are trained little robots that forgot how to think even when the obvious is staring them in the face! They also have forgotten how to listen to their patients. They are not healers. They are just licensed drug dealers. Had to get that off my chest. Love, Anita Re: Re: Lawsuits?? I don’t understand why the medical profession is the way it is. I really don’t believe it is ALL about money because there are good doctors who are ignorant to silicone poisoning. I know there are others who will do anything to make a buck. I enlightened my chiropractor who is an excellent doc. He is against implants for other reasons but knew of no medical reason not to get saline, after all, they’re just bags of water! We had a 30-minute conversation and he know understands and was totally shocked. MD’s need proof that glares at them in the face that can’t be looked at more than one way — like a a bad facelift, it’s pretty darn obvious. MDs also don’t believe in detoxing the system or a lot of the things NDs believe in, totally different ways to treat the body. NDs try to prevent illness, MDs treat it, I believe without even caring what the cause is. Kenda I went to my doctors less than 4 months ago telling them that I thought my implants were making me sick, and that I had read reports about it online. My OB/GYN looked me straight in the face and told me that I was crazy, that "there is no such thing as silicone poisoning, it's been proven" and told me to go to my MD and get some strong antidepressants. That's the same story the MD gave me and that I've been given for years. Most doctors don't want to believe there is a problem so they choose to ignore the evidence.I will be sending a nice little packet of proof to that OB/GYN and let him know that it is doctors like him who have kept women like me sick all these years!> >>> > > Mr. Derrick saulsberry is willing to talk to any> >> > and> >>> > > all of us with these Implants, etc> >>> > > > >>> > > His number is 713-522-0033> >>> > > Email - dsaulsberry@s...> >>> > > > >>> > > You might check here.> >>> > > > >>> > > But don't get your hopes up . . .> >>> > > > >>> > > When you got your implants, that "Informed> >> > Consent"> >>> > > you signed virtually absolved the manufacturer's> >> > and> >>> > > doctors of all responsibility. . . Supposedly you> >> > were> >>> > > told of all the possible dangers! NOT!> >>> > > > >>> > > There is another attorney I will try to find an> >>> > > address for.> >>> > > > >>> > > Good Luck!> >>> > > > >>> > > Rogene> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a> > happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Very true! Kenda I believe MDs are trained little robots that forgot how to think even when the obvious is staring them in the face! They also have forgotten how to listen to their patients. They are not healers. They are just licensed drug dealers. Had to get that off my chest. Love, Anita Re: Re: Lawsuits?? I don’t understand why the medical profession is the way it is. I really don’t believe it is ALL about money because there are good doctors who are ignorant to silicone poisoning. I know there are others who will do anything to make a buck. I enlightened my chiropractor who is an excellent doc. He is against implants for other reasons but knew of no medical reason not to get saline, after all, they’re just bags of water! We had a 30-minute conversation and he know understands and was totally shocked. MD’s need proof that glares at them in the face that can’t be looked at more than one way — like a a bad facelift, it’s pretty darn obvious. MDs also don’t believe in detoxing the system or a lot of the things NDs believe in, totally different ways to treat the body. NDs try to prevent illness, MDs treat it, I believe without even caring what the cause is. Kenda I went to my doctors less than 4 months ago telling them that I thought my implants were making me sick, and that I had read reports about it online. My OB/GYN looked me straight in the face and told me that I was crazy, that " there is no such thing as silicone poisoning, it's been proven " and told me to go to my MD and get some strong antidepressants. That's the same story the MD gave me and that I've been given for years. Most doctors don't want to believe there is a problem so they choose to ignore the evidence. I will be sending a nice little packet of proof to that OB/GYN and let him know that it is doctors like him who have kept women like me sick all these years! > >>> > > Mr. Derrick saulsberry is willing to talk to any > >> > and > >>> > > all of us with these Implants, etc > >>> > > > >>> > > His number is 713-522-0033 > >>> > > Email - dsaulsberry@s... > >>> > > > >>> > > You might check here. > >>> > > > >>> > > But don't get your hopes up . . . > >>> > > > >>> > > When you got your implants, that " Informed > >> > Consent " > >>> > > you signed virtually absolved the manufacturer's > >> > and > >>> > > doctors of all responsibility. . . Supposedly you > >> > were > >>> > > told of all the possible dangers! NOT! > >>> > > > >>> > > There is another attorney I will try to find an > >>> > > address for. > >>> > > > >>> > > Good Luck! > >>> > > > >>> > > Rogene > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care > > professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 IMHO, one reason the medical doctors don't want to acknowledge our illnesses is that they don't want to get involved. . . . There was one doctor . . . Dr. Blair, neurologist, in Fort Worth who was helping women with protocols much as we recommend . . . light on drugs, heavy on healthy living. He was ripped to shreds in the NY Times . . . He quit seeing implant cases. His career was at stake. Others may be concerned that they would have to take time off to testify for their patients if they admit the problem. . . Right now, by not acknowledging silicone-related illness, there's no " standard of care " they must follow. In other words, it's a matter of CYA . . . Cover Your ***. The anger they express when asked about it is a dead giveaway! I can't believe that THAT many doctors can be THAT stupid! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Of course I am speaking in general terms. There are also some wonderful exceptions. Anita Re: Re: Lawsuits?? I don’t understand why the medical profession is the way it is. I really don’t believe it is ALL about money because there are good doctors who are ignorant to silicone poisoning. I know there are others who will do anything to make a buck. I enlightened my chiropractor who is an excellent doc. He is against implants for other reasons but knew of no medical reason not to get saline, after all, they’re just bags of water! We had a 30-minute conversation and he know understands and was totally shocked. MD’s need proof that glares at them in the face that can’t be looked at more than one way — like a a bad facelift, it’s pretty darn obvious. MDs also don’t believe in detoxing the system or a lot of the things NDs believe in, totally different ways to treat the body. NDs try to prevent illness, MDs treat it, I believe without even caring what the cause is. Kenda I went to my doctors less than 4 months ago telling them that I thought my implants were making me sick, and that I had read reports about it online. My OB/GYN looked me straight in the face and told me that I was crazy, that "there is no such thing as silicone poisoning, it's been proven" and told me to go to my MD and get some strong antidepressants. That's the same story the MD gave me and that I've been given for years. Most doctors don't want to believe there is a problem so they choose to ignore the evidence.I will be sending a nice little packet of proof to that OB/GYN and let him know that it is doctors like him who have kept women like me sick all these years!> >>> > > Mr. Derrick saulsberry is willing to talk to any> >> > and> >>> > > all of us with these Implants, etc> >>> > > > >>> > > His number is 713-522-0033> >>> > > Email - dsaulsberry@s...> >>> > > > >>> > > You might check here.> >>> > > > >>> > > But don't get your hopes up . . .> >>> > > > >>> > > When you got your implants, that "Informed> >> > Consent"> >>> > > you signed virtually absolved the manufacturer's> >> > and> >>> > > doctors of all responsibility. . . Supposedly you> >> > were> >>> > > told of all the possible dangers! NOT!> >>> > > > >>> > > There is another attorney I will try to find an> >>> > > address for.> >>> > > > >>> > > Good Luck!> >>> > > > >>> > > Rogene> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed> > health care professionals Consult your physician or licensed health care> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a> > happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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