Guest guest Posted September 18, 1998 Report Share Posted September 18, 1998 Interesting concepts...the one I would like to comment on is control. I need it. Without it I am stressed. That means I have to decide what I can control, what is within my means to control, and then make every attempt to do so . Like organization. I must be organized. And since that is something I can still do I insist on it. I feel better. Now, a clean house ? I would love it, but I can't do it, so that is not within my area of control anymore and I had to let it go. Strange creatures arent'we? Control is just a figment of our imagaination I think,but it serves a purpose if it reduces stress. Oh and I think for me living in a rural setting is definitely a stress reducer. The city makes me hyper. But for some, it is the other way around...Go figure! I think each person needs to figuire out what they need in order to reduce the stress, which will reduce the pain. Ramblin' too.... Lyn " We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking up at the stars. " Wilde http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 1998 Report Share Posted September 19, 1998 Organization???? Funny about my messy desk. People always joke about the mess on my desk, I must have 100 things on it. But what amazes people if they ask for something I either know where it is or that I don't have. They occassionaly try " But I put in on your desk... " But then if item #101 hits my desk I feel out of control and then I have to stop and sort. I am so busy at work that they only time I really get to clean and sort is when the computer is down. ~››~››~››~››~››~››~››~››~› Success is not measured by how well we deal with plan " A " but by how well we deal with plan " B " . ‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1998 Report Share Posted September 20, 1998 , I was almost going to offer some advice about how to manage your desk. Then I looked at mine, piles everywhere. When it gets too cluttered, I move the piles to the top of a low bookcase nearby. I have always done things this way. Occassionally I go through everything to see what I can get rid of.Interesting tings turn up; plates, forks, etc. If I've lost anything that might have been important, it isn't any more when I find it. Ken At 06:22 PM 9/19/98 -0600, you wrote: >From: Andy24747@... (A. ) > >Organization???? Funny about my messy desk. People always joke about the >mess on my desk, I must have 100 things on it. But what amazes people if >they ask for something I either know where it is or that I don't have. >They occassionaly try " But I put in on your desk... " But then if item >#101 hits my desk I feel out of control and then I have to stop and >sort. I am so busy at work that they only time I really get to clean and >sort is when the computer is down. > > >~››~››~››~››~››~››~››~››~› >Success is not measured by how well we deal with plan " A " but by how >well we deal with plan " B " . >‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§ > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1998 Report Share Posted September 20, 1998 >>If I've lost anything that might have been important, it isn't any more when I find it. That's why stopped cutting out coupons. ~››~››~››~››~››~››~››~››~› Success is not measured by how well we deal with plan " A " but by how well we deal with plan " B " . ‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§‹‹§ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1998 Report Share Posted September 20, 1998 I think that those of us who have pain and all kinds of 'health challenges' are much more aware of the issue of control than most folks. Before I wacked up my spine I became fascinated with the ideas, illusions and facts about control in our life but AFTER the pain started it all took on a new meaning. When I started working on stress reduction as a tool for managing the pain I became more aware of the role of stress and our health & well-being. If I have some things hanging over my head to do that I can't or haven't yet learned to say NO to, then I must do them or resolve them or whatever if I'm to keep the stress level down and thus the pain level from going up. Such a fine line to walk! Seems, for me, that I'm ALWAYS redefining that line. In the past year I've really let go of a lot of the organization I used to have. Sometimes it still drives me nuts but I also am deriving a great deal of satisfaction that I can be quite happy and comfy with some things being in a shambles now! This room I'm sitting in is the messiest in the house, the messiest I've ever had in my life, and I realized the other day it's also the most comfy space for me most of the time! Just looking in here as I walk down the hall gives me a 'warm-fuzzy'. I think it must be some sort of symbol to me that indeed I can be sloppy and even like it! :-) CUL! Ruthie =========================== Ruthie Cunliffe K2ZQ ruthie@... http://www.cunliffegroup.com/ruthie/ Oh, no! Not ANOTHER learning experience! -----Original Message----- Interesting concepts...the one I would like to comment on is control. I need it. Without it I am stressed. That means I have to decide what I can control, what is within my means to control, and then make every attempt to do so . Like organization. I must be organized. And since that is something I can still do I insist on it. I feel better. Now, a clean house ? I would love it, but I can't do it, so that is not within my area of control anymore and I had to let it go. Strange creatures arent'we? Control is just a figment of our imagaination I think,but it serves a purpose if it reduces stress. Oh and I think for me living in a rural setting is definitely a stress reducer. The city makes me hyper. But for some, it is the other way around...Go figure! I think each person needs to figuire out what they need in order to reduce the stress, which will reduce the pain. Ramblin' too.... Lyn " We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking up at the stars. " Wilde http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1998 Report Share Posted September 20, 1998 Ken, You wrote about your desk management procedures: " If I've lost anything that might have been important, it isn't any more when I find it. " Question: Isn't important any longer, or isn't lost any longer? Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1998 Report Share Posted September 20, 1998 Oh me tooo.....its wonderful , isn't it. I can be messy and have an excuse now! I almost think I like it too much!. I sit here in my superfabulousitisous lift chair that does everything but fly, surrounding by my piles of everything necessary to life as I know it now. 'TIs wonderful! Every thing an arms length away! Its a mess, but I know where everything is. So in a sense I still exert control , it is just over a much smaller area. LOL! Lyn " We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking up at the stars. " Wilde http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1998 Report Share Posted September 20, 1998 >>>If I've lost anything that might have been important, it isn't any >more when I find it. > >That's why stopped cutting out coupons. ME TOO. One more thing I let go of 'cuz I couldn't keep it organized anymore. =========================== Ruthie Cunliffe K2ZQ ruthie@... http://www.cunliffegroup.com/ruthie/ Oh, no! Not ANOTHER learning experience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 1998 Report Share Posted September 20, 1998 You paint a glorious picture!! :-) I have piles of stuff everywhere in here and also around MY chair in the living room, plus by my side of the bed. Devine! Ya know, I feel that by giving up control and the illusion of control, we actually GAIN more control.....and better than that, less stress.... than we ever could (and maybe still CAN'T) imagine! CUL! Ruthie ------ Oh me tooo.....its wonderful , isn't it. I can be messy and have an excuse now! I almost think I like it too much!. I sit here in my superfabulousitisous lift chair that does everything but fly, surrounding by my piles of everything necessary to life as I know it now. 'TIs wonderful! Every thing an arms length away! Its a mess, but I know where everything is. So in a sense I still exert control , it is just over a much smaller area. LOL! Lyn " We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking up at the stars. " Wilde http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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