Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 , If you are looking at citricidal as a 'natural' preservative look no further. It is not!! If you are looking for a preservative then look at the conventional ingredients. Young KY Labs Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products www.kylabs.com citricidal/grapefruit Anyone familiar with the properties of Citricidal? Is it really the broad spectrum antibiotic claimed by the manufacturer? If so, is it effective mixed with soap? (I make my soap in a crockpot, would probably add this to a remelted, already cooked batch. Temp runs around 155F according to a candy thermometer.) dd Addresses: Post message: Cosmeticinfoegroups Subscribe: Cosmeticinfo-subscribeegroups Unsubscribe: Cosmeticinfo-unsubscribeegroups List owner: Cosmeticinfo-owneregroups URL to home page: /group/Cosmeticinfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 I'm not looking for preservatives, natural or otherwise. dd > , > > If you are looking at citricidal as a 'natural' preservative look no > further. It is not!! If you are looking for a preservative then look at the > conventional ingredients. > > Young > KY Labs > Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products > www.kylabs.com > > citricidal/grapefruit > > Anyone familiar with the properties of Citricidal? Is it really the > broad spectrum antibiotic claimed by the manufacturer? If so, is it > effective mixed with soap? (I make my soap in a crockpot, would > probably add this to a remelted, already cooked batch. Temp runs > around 155F according to a candy thermometer.) > > dd > > > Addresses: > Post message: Cosmeticinfoegroups > Subscribe: Cosmeticinfo-subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: Cosmeticinfo-unsubscribeegroups > List owner: Cosmeticinfo-owneregroups > URL to home page: /group/Cosmeticinfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 no. it's utter nonsense. check the archives, please, there are several posts discussing this topic. WHY would you want to add this to soap, anyway, out of curiosity? Looking to create a new drug product? After all, if it was an antibiotic and you added it to a cosmetic, it would DEFINITELY be considered a drug... Jules in Vancouver > Anyone familiar with the properties of Citricidal? Is it really the > broad spectrum antibiotic claimed by the manufacturer? If so, is it > effective mixed with soap? (I make my soap in a crockpot, would > probably add this to a remelted, already cooked batch. Temp runs > around 155F according to a candy thermometer.) > > dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 > no. it's utter nonsense. check the archives, please, there are > several posts discussing this topic. I was looking for the wrong search string. As GSE in the files section there are two of the three abstracts from medline which don't mention brand names, and missing the third which doesn't support the general consensus, probably why it was left out. But I was already aware of those before I asked. There's a dismissal from on the basis Maurice posted something on another list. I haven't read all of the messages; most of the ones I did read mention the string " GSE " but there's no discussion. Too many messages to plow through. ly, I was hoping some fairly well informed person could say " here's what we know " and perhaps I'd learn something, rather than be told what my business is and what I do or don't need. Apparently the primary purpose of this list is for smart people to shove their opinions down the throats of idiots who can't think for themselves. > WHY would you want to add this to soap, anyway, out of curiosity? ACNE. FOR ME. Triclosan works, but... dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 , Now that you have clearly explained your goals in trying to mitigate acne vulgaris I would suggest several alternatives. It is true that antimicrobial soaps have been used to treat acne but they have not been recognized as being effective. The thoughts are that one cause of acne is P. ovale and that either triclosan or tcc may be effective against this organism. The problem is that no one has been able to prove definitively that either chemical works reliably in the treatment of acne. Years ago, hexachlorophene was used in the treatment of acne but this was later banned from general use. This was the original ingredient in pHisohex. The OTC review for acne preparations has determined that salicylic acid up to 5% and benzoyl peroxide up to 10% are safe and effective. There are several other actives mentioned in the monograph but these are the one used today. BPO is a difficult to work with and is an explosion hazard too but you can easily work with sal acid if you are looking for making your own product. You can also use the combination of sulfur and resorcinol. This has a distinctive malodor. A dermatologist can prescribe both topical, Cleocin, and ingestible, tetracycline, antibiotics for the treatment of acne or prescribe 13-cis, retinoic acid, trade name Accutane. Of all the treatments available the last is the most effective. With the exception of the topical and ingestible antibiotics all will have a profound drying effect on your skin. A noncomedogenic moisturizer should be used to help mitigate the dryness. With this information you now can make an informed choice for your treatment program. Young KY Labs Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products www.kylabs.com Re: citricidal/grapefruit > no. it's utter nonsense. check the archives, please, there are > several posts discussing this topic. I was looking for the wrong search string. As GSE in the files section there are two of the three abstracts from medline which don't mention brand names, and missing the third which doesn't support the general consensus, probably why it was left out. But I was already aware of those before I asked. There's a dismissal from on the basis Maurice posted something on another list. I haven't read all of the messages; most of the ones I did read mention the string " GSE " but there's no discussion. Too many messages to plow through. ly, I was hoping some fairly well informed person could say " here's what we know " and perhaps I'd learn something, rather than be told what my business is and what I do or don't need. Apparently the primary purpose of this list is for smart people to shove their opinions down the throats of idiots who can't think for themselves. > WHY would you want to add this to soap, anyway, out of curiosity? ACNE. FOR ME. Triclosan works, but... dd Addresses: Post message: Cosmeticinfoegroups Subscribe: Cosmeticinfo-subscribeegroups Unsubscribe: Cosmeticinfo-unsubscribeegroups List owner: Cosmeticinfo-owneregroups URL to home page: /group/Cosmeticinfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 To: <Cosmeticinfoegroups> > ly, I was hoping some fairly well informed person could say > " here's what we know " and perhaps I'd learn something, rather than be > told what my business is and what I do or don't need. Apparently the > primary purpose of this list is for smart people to shove their > opinions down the throats of idiots who can't think for themselves. Nobody on this list is a mind reader. If you don't let people know what your intended purpose is for wanting to use the ingredient, you are going to get answers that relate to what people have normally asked about in the past. Pat. List Owner. Peace, Joy, Serenity House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc. achil@... http://houseofscents.safeshopper.com/ www.yourhealthandbody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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