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Hey Kaivey Thanks for these postings, one story really motivated me. To: SSRIsex Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:51:16 AM Subject: Collection of Full recover Cases

By Licorice Root/Kudzu

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330

By levothyroxine

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

By accupunkture

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

Different Supplements

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

Social domination

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

Social domination

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

By tryptophan/fish oil

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14419

By strong man bao/vine essence pill

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

By unkonwn chinese pills

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/13766

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If anybody find more FULL cured cases, please post it here.

I want correct this case:

Different Supplements/ wild yam root(Mannatech - Plus)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diosgenin

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> Hey Kaivey

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> Thanks for these postings, one story really motivated me.

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> To: SSRIsex

> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:51:16 AM

> Subject: Collection of Full recover Cases

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> By Licorice Root/Kudzu

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330

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> By levothyroxine

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

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> By accupunkture

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

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> Different Supplements

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

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> Social domination

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

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> Social domination

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

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> By tryptophan/fish oil

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14419

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> By strong man bao/vine essence pill

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

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> By unkonwn chinese pills

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/13766

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Hi Kaivey Isn't it the Social dominance story. To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:15:58 PM Subject: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

There was a guy here once who had depression all his life and had been

treated for this he got then got PSSD as well. He said he was born

depressed. He then did some CBT in his teens, or maybe early twenties,

and became an alpha male, so he said. He then got a lovely girlfriend

but he told her he had no sex drive but she was okay with this. The next

thing he starts to fall in love with her and some time after that he

starts to feel randy too. Eventually his sex drive comes back full pelt

and he is cured.

I lost his post which I kept for inspiration, and I would sometimes post

it here to give others hope. If anyone has it please post it.

Thanks.

And thanks for all your hard work, North4insta.

Kv

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> > To: SSRIsex

> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:51:16 AM

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> > By Licorice Root/Kudzu

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330

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> > By levothyroxine

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

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> > By accupunkture

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

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> > Different Supplements

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

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> > Social domination

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

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> > Social domination

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

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> > By tryptophan/fish oil

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14419

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> > By strong man bao/vine essence pill

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

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> > By unkonwn chinese pills

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/13766

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When I re-read my post now I can see how it got misinterpreted. Although

he did feel that becoming an alpha male played a part in his recovery, I

did not believe this for one second. But there was also many other

aspects to his recovery. Overcoming his lifelong depression, falling in

love with his girlfirend, and just generally getting better. I remember

saying to him perhaps you found your true self which was to be more

confident (implying that we can all find our true selves too rather than

becoming alpha males).

All the bset,

Kv

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> I couldn't have said it better. Thanks !!

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> To think that there are people out there who actually believe that

shit?!!

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> To: " SSRIsex " SSRIsex

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> Sounds like complete bullshit. He did cognitive behavior therapy and

became an alpha male. thanks for the laughs lol

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Yes, when you have no sex drive it makes it so hard to fall in love with

someone? A really lovely woman came into my life a few years back and I

thought, wow! she's the one. She really wanted me but I have a

girlfriend who is my best friend so I decided not to take te risk. Much

of the time I cope with things, but every now and again this great big

emtpy hole raises up inside of me and tears me to pieces.

Keep up the good work, North4insta. It is much appreciated.

Kv

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> > > > By accupunkture

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

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> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

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> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

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Like your thinking the only issue is, that SSRI's are like ecstasy, which floods your brain whereas suppliments require time to work/buildup and can actually be more harmful than ssris if overtaken etc.So even though you are wanting it I doubt that it would be a case of popping a couple of pills and boom fixed.And I have taken most of the suppliments as well, what is helping my recovery most is TIME, for (my thinking) receptors to up/down regulate and for the rest of the nervous system to build back up. To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Monday, 2 April 2012, 21:22 Subject: Re: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

I agree with u , however some herbs, supplements are just garbage . To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 3:10:34 PM Subject:

Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

Ok you are testing gooood, but the others here ? 3000 people ?

The structure of this yahoogroup is very bad, we need build up a database with testing different methods/supplements and when something dont work for 10 people ... why the hell anybody try this again ??? this is dump ! we need repeat sucess cases, and when nothing of this help build up database, belive me when only 20 % of this group will help testing we get health in very short time.

i post some good stuff about sucess cases... nobody respond and say: ok i will do it, everybody thems thinking: oh other will do it and wait ... for waht ? nothing happens... apathy. get as up !

this thread will go down and nothing happens... i see it come.

once again we need more efficient working in this group. pleas vornan build up sucess case database and we need also a database of untested medications.

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

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> > > > > > > By accupunkture

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14419

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

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I've tried many different options for treating post-SSRI sexual dysfunction and I've reported the results here. I haven't seen many other people do the same, though. Not to be a jerk, but this group seems to be more about people complaining about their problems and worrying about potential lawsuits than what it should be focused on: researching, collaborating, and fixing this problem. Arguing back and forth about emotions and experiences is pointless; we are all different people with different histories.Everyone here joined the group because of a problem. When good do we accomplish by sitting around and bemoaning our lives? SSRIs have messed us all up in some shape or form; there is no getting around that. Complaining won't change a thing. We need to stop arguing and fix this using reason and rationality. If more people shared

their attempts at solutions instead of their complaints perhaps by now we could have had some sort of database that would show hard data that could be used for future attempts at solutions.Subject: Re: Re: Collection of Full recover CasesTo: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex >Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 3:22 PM

I agree with u , however some herbs, supplements are just garbage . To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 3:10:34 PM Subject:

Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

Ok you are testing gooood, but the others here ? 3000 people ?

The structure of this yahoogroup is very bad, we need build up a database with testing different methods/supplements and when something dont work for 10 people ... why the hell anybody try this again ??? this is dump ! we need repeat sucess cases, and when nothing of this help build up database, belive me when only 20 % of this group will help testing we get health in very short time.

i post some good stuff about sucess cases... nobody respond and say: ok i will do it, everybody thems thinking: oh other will do it and wait ... for waht ? nothing happens... apathy. get as up !

this thread will go down and nothing happens... i see it come.

once again we need more efficient working in this group. pleas vornan build up sucess case database and we need also a database of untested medications.

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> > > > > > > By Licorice Root/Kudzu

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330

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> > > > > > > By levothyroxine

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

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> > > > > > > By accupunkture

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

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> > > > > > > Different Supplements

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

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> > > > > > > Social domination

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

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> > > > > > > Social domination

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14419

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> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

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Hy AdamI had been taking SSRI for 9 months in the past for social anxiety, however in a small dose ( only 5 mg.). I did not take my doctor's advice to stop it cold turkey, but I stopped it within 3 weeks and still had very intensive withdrawal symptoms. For some months I didn't have any problems with making a presentation before a large group of people (I'm learning at the university) because I did not have any anxiety. But after 6- 7 months my anxiety is coming back more and more times in certain situations. I also tried a lot of supplements but what made a big difference once was that I tried out licorice and I realised that not only did it bring back my anxiety problems, but also my sexual problems improved with it ( I have almost all the PSSD symptoms

including genital anaesthesia, low libido etc.). If I were you, I would give it a try, even if it is said to affect testosteron levels in a negative way. After it wears of, the bad symptoms return, but I'm 90% sure that it contributed to my gradual recovery ( I still have some problems, but all in all I can say that I improved a lot and have some very good experiences). P.s. sorry for my English, I'm from Hungary To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: Re: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

I want what you want, I want ''ME BACK'' , I want the social anxiety, the ocd, the shame, the guilt ,the motivation, and the sexual function which is awesome, orgasm ,genitals sensations. What do you have in Mind, amphetamines, cocaine, extreme exercise which I don't think is enough, a relationship with a girl. I still have mild emotions, I can laugh, and can get a erection and I can get a tear in my eye once and a blue moon ,however i can't cry. If any fucking dude is trying here it's me, I tried supplements, Inositol,fish oil, nicotine ,vitamins, healthy diet with little progress. I tried extreme sports'' white water rafting'' thinking a Flight or fight stressfull scary event would bring my original mind state back. I am starting to worry time is the only answer , I am 25 and have been free of

drugs for over 2 years.

I am tired of fucking waiting . To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 12:53:09 PM Subject: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

what do you want is the question ... ? live like a zombie at a wave of nothing, or start fighting ? i mean there are good alternative treatments against anxiety out there...

just talking in a group like this or german is not egnouph. its good looking for papers. but than: start doing, or what do you want here ?! big crying storm ? how long ? 3 years, 5 years , 20 years, hole live ?

i know how it is when anxiety and panics are returning, i have made exactly this expirences... but my libido and joy of live returend.

so what do you want for next time ?

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> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

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> > > > > > By accupunkture

> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

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> > > > > > Different Supplements

> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

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> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

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north4insta, has people in your German group tried Grape Seed Extract

which is a natural aromatase inhibitor and blocks the conversion of

testosterone into estrogen, so it reduces estrogen and can increase

testosterone? Has anyone tried Source Naturals' Calcium D-Glucarate

which reduces estrogen? Has your German group done tests on reducing

estrogen?

I have used Grape Seed extract and Calcium D-Glucarate to reduce

estrogen but each time the estrogen begins to reduce, the serotonin also

reduces and I begin to get a few symptoms of low serotonin and cannot

continue with the Grape Seed Extract and Calcium D-Glucarate. I might

try again but also take 5HTP several times a day.

I've read that when estrogen goes up, serotonin goes up (and vice

versa). When estrogen goes down, serotonin goes down (and vice versa).

Maybe these SSRIs cause estrogen to go up, since the brain thinks

serotonin has gone up from the SSRI?

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> > > > > > By levothyroxine

> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

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> > > > > > By accupunkture

> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

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> > > > > > Different Supplements

> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

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> > > > > > Social domination

> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

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> > > > > > Social domination

> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

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> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14419

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> > > > > > By strong man bao/vine essence pill

> > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

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I am new to this group, and joined to hear what works. I would appreciate information from everyone knowing what has helped you heal,including if it is just time off antidepressant, and also what you have tried and not healed.I quickly made an excel spreadsheet like attached below, and perhaps the moderatorcan upload it to the group for easy access, or you can fill it out and return it to the groupor just answer the questions below and I will keep it filled in. Perhaps the moderator can then later upload it for the group, unless there is already something like this being done.Here is some information that may be pertinent to collect, or not, and if others have suggestions, please let me know:Your initials or nameHow many years were you on an antidepressant?Which one(s)? and what dosage?How long did you take to taper off your antidepressant?How long have you been off?What symptoms of sexual dysfunction do you have?Other drugs? (prescribed or not)After how long did you first experience symptoms of sexual dysfunction?What have you tried and in what doses and for how long?What didn't work/any bad effects?What did work and in what doses and for how long?Terry

I've tried many different options for treating post-SSRI sexual dysfunction and I've reported the results here. I haven't seen many other people do the same, though. Not to be a jerk, but this group seems to be more about people complaining about their problems and worrying about potential lawsuits than what it should be focused on: researching, collaborating, and fixing this problem. Arguing back and forth about emotions and experiences is pointless; we are all different people with different histories.Everyone here joined the group because of a problem. When good do we accomplish by sitting around and bemoaning our lives? SSRIs have messed us all up in some shape or form; there is no getting around that. Complaining won't change a thing. We need to stop arguing and fix this using reason and rationality. If more people shared

their attempts at solutions instead of their complaints perhaps by now we could have had some sort of database that would show hard data that could be used for future attempts at solutions.Subject: Re: Re: Collection of Full recover CasesTo: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex >Date: Monday, April 2, 2012, 3:22 PM

I agree with u , however some herbs, supplements are just garbage . To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 3:10:34 PM Subject:

Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

Ok you are testing gooood, but the others here ? 3000 people ?

The structure of this yahoogroup is very bad, we need build up a database with testing different methods/supplements and when something dont work for 10 people ... why the hell anybody try this again ??? this is dump ! we need repeat sucess cases, and when nothing of this help build up database, belive me when only 20 % of this group will help testing we get health in very short time.

i post some good stuff about sucess cases... nobody respond and say: ok i will do it, everybody thems thinking: oh other will do it and wait ... for waht ? nothing happens... apathy. get as up !

this thread will go down and nothing happens... i see it come.

once again we need more efficient working in this group. pleas vornan build up sucess case database and we need also a database of untested medications.

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> > > > > > > By Licorice Root/Kudzu

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > By levothyroxine

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > By accupunkture

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

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> > > > > > > Different Supplements

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

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> > > > > > > Social domination

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

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> > > > > > > Social domination

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

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> > > > > > > By tryptophan/fish oil

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14419

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> > > > > > > By strong man bao/vine essence pill

> > > > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

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There is a fellow named who has had tremendous success by taking Oxytocin orally. There was a thread concerning his situation about a month or two months ago. Perhaps this could be added as well...Mike

To: SSRIsex Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 3:59 AMSubject: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

Add another case:Cholin+B5http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15167>> By Licorice Root/Kudzu> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330> > By levothyroxine> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995> > By accupunkture> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779> > Different Supplements> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925> > Social domination> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277> > Social domination> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863> > By tryptophan/fish oil>

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what are your symtoms of too low serotonin?? To: SSRIsex From: csln223@...Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:15:15 +0000Subject: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

north4insta, has people in your German group tried Grape Seed Extract

which is a natural aromatase inhibitor and blocks the conversion of

testosterone into estrogen, so it reduces estrogen and can increase

testosterone? Has anyone tried Source Naturals' Calcium D-Glucarate

which reduces estrogen? Has your German group done tests on reducing

estrogen?

I have used Grape Seed extract and Calcium D-Glucarate to reduce

estrogen but each time the estrogen begins to reduce, the serotonin also

reduces and I begin to get a few symptoms of low serotonin and cannot

continue with the Grape Seed Extract and Calcium D-Glucarate. I might

try again but also take 5HTP several times a day.

I've read that when estrogen goes up, serotonin goes up (and vice

versa). When estrogen goes down, serotonin goes down (and vice versa).

Maybe these SSRIs cause estrogen to go up, since the brain thinks

serotonin has gone up from the SSRI?

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if anybody live in the usa. go for this sucess case:

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in german group is it the same like here, i must act like a fucking dictator

before people start doing something. we was 120 members i kicked everyone out of

group who is not testing things. now we are 6 members... and i always must kick

there asses again. its anyoing people are totaly zombies, apathy or what ever...

pssd or ssri make so lazy brains, the most dont realize that waiting is the

stupid way, watch how much spontanly health cases here... maybe 2-3 ... in time

over 7 years .. :D

waiting is let pssd get your brain melting. i have it since 5 years now, it does

not get better, it get bad !

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I always keep an optimistic attitude and have posted here much about the

ways in which we may recover - lots of scientific stuff. Just the same,

I sometimes like to vent here too. Venting eases stress and frustration

and this can be therepeutic, which is why we are genetically programed

to moan about things. I connect with people who sometimes vent here and

I sometimes share my frustration and pain with them too. I find it helps

to soothe the psychological scars of PSSD. Expresing pain and sorrow is

a form of mourning which can lead to psychological healing.

But there are also two other important things about occasionally venting

here. One is that I now have a folder full of tragic PSSD case histories

that I send to professional people to show them how devasting PSSD

really is (all names removed, of course). Second, it is probably true

that some professionals occasionally vist our site and then they can see

the real misery that PSSD causes.

I don't know anyone here who wallows in self pity (we all want to

recover), but some occasionally need to let some pain out.

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There are two ways in which people vent their pain and sadness here. One

is innocent and pure which touches my heart. And sometimes people will

express great anger at psychiatry and the drug companies which I can

totally identfy with. I'm mad at them too.

The second way is extemely rare where a person say's he has tried

everything and then say's that there is no hope. This is not helpful.

But posts I really don't posts from from people who are extremely angry

about their PSSD who then go on and attack other members on this list.

We also had a person once who kept really aggresivelly attacking us

saying that we lived in a dream world and that we would never get

better. I'm glad he disapeared.

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Hey Man What do you think of B-5, Choline and Arginine , apparently it really helped one man. To: SSRIsex Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 1:48:36

AM Subject: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

in german group is it the same like here, i must act like a fucking dictator before people start doing something. we was 120 members i kicked everyone out of group who is not testing things. now we are 6 members... and i always must kick there asses again. its anyoing people are totaly zombies, apathy or what ever... pssd or ssri make so lazy brains, the most dont realize that waiting is the stupid way, watch how much spontanly health cases here... maybe 2-3 ... in time over 7 years .. :D

waiting is let pssd get your brain melting. i have it since 5 years now, it does not get better, it get bad !

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i don't think it's just time anymore, SSRIs effected my sexual function in hours, some people took them for a week and have sexual dysfunction. The body shouldn't take 5 years to recover . Are brains were altered, and we just have to find the right switch to turn back on. Time Time, I don't want to wait 20 years. It's been 3 years since I am free of SSRIs and I have seen little progress, I am fed up, I want answers and I want to experiment. I am 25 years old and missing out. To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 4:59:27 PM Subject: Re: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

Like your thinking the only issue is, that SSRI's are like ecstasy, which floods your brain whereas suppliments require time to work/buildup and can actually be more harmful than ssris if overtaken etc.So even though you are wanting it I doubt that it would be a case of popping a couple of pills and boom fixed.And I have taken most of the suppliments as well, what is helping my recovery most is TIME, for (my thinking) receptors to up/down regulate and for the rest of the nervous system to build back up. To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Monday, 2 April 2012, 21:22 Subject: Re: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

I agree with u , however some herbs, supplements are just garbage . To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 3:10:34 PM Subject:

Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

Ok you are testing gooood, but the others here ? 3000 people ?

The structure of this yahoogroup is very bad, we need build up a database with testing different methods/supplements and when something dont work for 10 people ... why the hell anybody try this again ??? this is dump ! we need repeat sucess cases, and when nothing of this help build up database, belive me when only 20 % of this group will help testing we get health in very short time.

i post some good stuff about sucess cases... nobody respond and say: ok i will do it, everybody thems thinking: oh other will do it and wait ... for waht ? nothing happens... apathy. get as up !

this thread will go down and nothing happens... i see it come.

once again we need more efficient working in this group. pleas vornan build up sucess case database and we need also a database of untested medications.

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Hi,It helped only one man,.And we do not have any more messages from him. It is not worth trusted. Let's make a list of possible treatments, divide people with PSSD to different groups. Each group will be treated with different medication. After few weeks we will summarize the results. Othervise, we will be trying different methods for years.Regards,Marek From: Adam Ballerini

To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

Hey Man What do you think of B-5, Choline and Arginine , apparently it really helped one man. To: SSRIsex Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 1:48:36

AM Subject: Re: Collection of Full recover Cases

in german group is it the same like here, i must act like a fucking dictator before people start doing something. we was 120 members i kicked everyone out of group who is not testing things. now we are 6 members... and i always must kick there asses again. its anyoing people are totaly zombies, apathy or what ever... pssd or ssri make so lazy brains, the most dont realize that waiting is the stupid way, watch how much spontanly health cases here... maybe 2-3 ... in time over 7 years .. :D

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It will be good when you can repeat his stuff, he take a combination of arginine

+ Orthinine. maybe its better you do it too.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15178

Orthinine make your brain send out growth hormon.

cholin build up the parasympatic nerv system, the " chillout system " , ssri

rapidly build up sympathic nerv system, so it get overtonus. maybe this balance

this systems.

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Do not post any bullshit in this thread, only for full revoery cases, open a new

one when you like comment something !

Thanks

By Licorice Root(there are different version asia/europe for example, with

different alcaloide include, asia is better because it produce no uneasyness) +

Kudzu

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330

By levothyroxine(kick start for hpa ?)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

By accupunkture

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

By 5-HTP, vitamin B, Mannatech - Plus

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

By Social domination

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

By social activitie(football game)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

By strong man bao/vine essence pill + ( XYMOGEN - Mood Food, fish oil, Vitamin

B6, BComplex, cinamon)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

By unkonwn chinese pills ( maybe some liver tonic/kidney tonic)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/13766

By Cholin, Arginine+Ornithine, Vitamin B5

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15167

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> By strong man bao/vine essence pill + ( XYMOGEN - Mood Food, fish oil, Vitamin

B6, BComplex, cinamon)

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> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

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> By unkonwn chinese pills ( maybe some liver tonic/kidney tonic)

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/13766

>

>

> By Cholin, Arginine+Ornithine, Vitamin B5

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15167

>

>

> Orginal Thread:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/22959

>

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Hey ok no problem. Did you know more full cured cases ? I only watch out throw

topics thats sound good to me. Maybe there are more cases out there... so maybe

you remember some of them ?!

> > > >

> > > > Do not post any bullshit in this thread, only for full revoery cases,

open a new one when you like comment something !

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> > > > Thanks

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> > > >

> > > > By Licorice Root(there are different version asia/europe for example,

with different alcaloide include, asia is better because it produce no

uneasyness) + Kudzu

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/20330

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > By levothyroxine(kick start for hpa ?)

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/19995

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > By accupunkture

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/18779

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > By 5-HTP, vitamin B, Mannatech - Plus

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/17925

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > By Social domination

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/11277

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > By social activitie(football game)

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15863

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > By strong man bao/vine essence pill + ( XYMOGEN - Mood Food, fish oil,

Vitamin B6, BComplex, cinamon)

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/14551

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > By unkonwn chinese pills ( maybe some liver tonic/kidney tonic)

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/13766

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > By Cholin, Arginine+Ornithine, Vitamin B5

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/15167

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Orginal Thread:

> > > >

> > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/22959

> > > >

> > >

> >

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