Re: SSRI/NDRI induced frontal lobe dysfunction

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Dirkse you are from belgian?

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> > > Hi evrybody,

> > > Anouther thing besides sexual side effects (hope this is appropriate

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> > > I have extreme impulsivity: Impuls buying, saying stuff that I should keep

for myself (like every other person does), becoming a child, no 'higher'

thoughts, cognitive dysfunction and social retardation.

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> > > I find this much more horrible then the sexual side effects alone.

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> > > What can I do against this????

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> > > A desperate, pill free human beïng.

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"The thing is I was still smart and able to speak intelligently, and think *some* 'higher' thoughts, but I couldn't organize my thoughts or follow them to a conclusion or even form a pattern, my impulses were wild, and the only emotion I had was anger. I felt like a normal person trapped inside the mind of a child. It was the strangest feeling in the world."that really describes what I felt like.. i'm about three years off now and beginning to feel less angry and impulsive.but it was terrible. i kept away from people as much as i could cos i didn't like being angry adn impulsive the whole time, in front of people.. To: SSRIsex Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2011, 2:33 Subject: Re: Re: SSRI/NDRI induced frontal lobe

dysfunction

"I am suffering badly inside. But I just don't feel it. It's like i'm at

heavy panic, but I am not aware that I am. I'm used to it. Can't sit

still, always have to move, can't rest, can't stop doing stuff,

stress,.. It's terrible."This and your first post describe it perfectly for me, at least the first two or three years after I came off them. I felt like I had some kind of minor frontal lobe damage. Everything about Phineas Gages' story,, for instance, struck a cord, and similar stories, just less pronounced. I was astonished that an SSRI (for me it was an SSnRI) could do this kind of damage.The thing is I was still smart and able to speak intelligently, and think *some* 'higher' thoughts, but I couldn't organize my thoughts or follow them to a conclusion or even form a pattern, my impulses were wild, and the only emotion I had was anger. I felt like a normal person trapped inside the mind of a child. It was the strangest feeling in the world.From:

Dirkske Subject: Re: SSRI/NDRI induced frontal lobe dysfunctionTo: SSRIsex Received: Tuesday, 20 December, 2011, 6:06 PM

Will try the vitamin and fish oil stuff Might help, might not.

That feeling part, that you also describe as beïng very embarrassed, got the same thing!

I am suffering badly inside. But I just don't feel it. It's like i'm at heavy panic, but I am not aware that I am. I'm used to it. Can't sit still, always have to move, can't rest, can't stop doing stuff, stress,.. It's terrible. PSSD was nothin' compared to that.

But, I tried to fix myself tried 17 different psychiatric medications. Each harming me a little bit more (ritalin being the most harmful)

And this stuff is so annoying, as for now a girl is into me (just met her, but the next day she gave me a christmas-card, with lovely words on it. But I don't have a personality!

I am just blessed with the no-anxiety-feeling that I can do whatever I want. It looks like I'm very self-confident. But i'm not. When she realizes that I'm a faker, she won't be interested no more. And she's freakin' hot!!

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> > Hi evrybody,

> > Anouther thing besides sexual side effects (hope this is appropriate here):

> > I have extreme impulsivity: Impuls buying, saying stuff that I should keep for myself (like every other person does), becoming a child, no 'higher' thoughts, cognitive dysfunction and social retardation.

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> > I find this much more horrible then the sexual side effects alone.

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> > What can I do against this????

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> > A desperate, pill free human beïng.

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What you describe sounds to me like akathisia. I believe I experienced it many years ago when I was put on Haldol. It went away after I stopped taking the drug, and, since I have been drug free for over 28 yrs, I have never experienced it again. Wiki has an interesting article on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia

The beginning of the article states that akathisia is most often associated with antipsychotics, but, if you read to the end, it mentions SSRIs too.

Kay

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Yes I'm from belgium, you are from holland, right?

Can you add me on Facebook or something?

Regards!

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> > > > Hi evrybody,

> > > > Anouther thing besides sexual side effects (hope this is appropriate

here):

> > > > I have extreme impulsivity: Impuls buying, saying stuff that I should

keep for myself (like every other person does), becoming a child, no 'higher'

thoughts, cognitive dysfunction and social retardation.

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> > > > I find this much more horrible then the sexual side effects alone.

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> > > > What can I do against this????

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> > > > A desperate, pill free human beïng.

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Yes I guess you can call it akathesia. In my case, a stimulant helps greatly

with that.

But, it was kinda caused (or worsened) by prolonged stimulant use (in my case

methylphenidate).

It's gotten so bad that I can't bear it. I stopped seroquel, and it's gotten 10

times worse.

It made me feel so terrible, that I'm sure if there were drugs in my

neighborhood, I would take them without hesitating. And so I did. Tramadol (a

opiate kinda drugs, helps greatly),

MPA (some kind of experimental drug, legal, gives massive dopamine release. If

I'm " sober " I suffer so badly that I can't do anything. And my mind goes blanker

and blanker. To the point that I think this akathesia is damaging my brain even

more.

The anger you describe, that's what I'm experiencing too. Towards my

ex-girlfriend (and I shouldn't have this feeling). Or the slightest thing. The

best way to describe it is:

" The person in me is in a giant pit. I'm screaming and screaming (these are my

feelings). But me (the outside, the way you act), can't synchronize with this,

or help. So I ignore it and just go on and on doing stuff that I can't handle

and deepening the pit. Me, the person in the pit is getting more and more

exhausted, cause it doesn't get food or attention. "

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> > > Anouther thing besides sexual side effects (hope this is appropriate

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> > > I have extreme impulsivity: Impuls buying, saying stuff that I should keep

for myself (like every other person does), becoming a child, no 'higher'

thoughts, cognitive dysfunction and social retardation.

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> > > I find this much more horrible then the sexual side effects alone.

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> > > What can I do against this????

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> > > A desperate, pill free human beïng.

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I'm also still able to speak intelligent. People don't notice that I gotten

stupid. Or sometimes they do. But it costs so much stress and energy, that I'm

getting depressed by it. But if I don't, I am sorry about all the things I said.

But zero higher thoughts. I guess higher thoughts are some kind of break on the

lower thoughts, so they don't get out of control.

They say 'you shouldn't do this, or ... are the consequences. Or 'if you say

this, the other person interprets this as .... . I say directly what I'm

thinking. And don't even notice what it's doing to the other person. If someone

tells me, then I know. They are my higher thoughts now.

An example:

We were talking about HIV/AIDS. I said " I think about HIV as a brilliant peace

of nature " .

I ment " Scientifficaly speaking, HIV is so smart, it can bypass or immune system

easily. Or bypass our advanced medical science. The only thing they CAN do is

control it.

People thought I was some kind of psychopath. Didn't care about the people

suffering cause of it. They said: and what if you had HIV? Would you still think

that?

Hated myself for saying that. Normally, my higher thoughts would say:

" If you say this, people will think that you are careless. And like you less. "

But my lower thoughts still think this is a kick ass virus.

Or like in our case:

" SSRI's are such a kick ass thing. They can damage the brain so badly and

profoundly, that it is remarkable. " Don't need higher thoughts to figure out

this is shit to say here. I don't even think this. Cause I know how terrible it

is to have this.

Image that you have this shit all the time. The only thing to think too ease it

is that you're misunderstood.

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> >> > Hi evrybody,

> >> > Anouther thing besides sexual side effects (hope this is appropriate

here):

> >> > I have extreme impulsivity: Impuls buying, saying stuff that I should

keep for myself (like every other person does), becoming a child, no 'higher'

thoughts, cognitive dysfunction and social retardation.

> >> >

> >> > I find this much more horrible then the sexual side effects alone.

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> >> > What can I do against this????

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> >> > A desperate, pill free human beïng.

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