Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

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HI There,Yes I have Adrenal fatigue. I have absolutely no doubt that I do. The medical profession does not recognize AF as a true condition but the symptoms and the cause from what I have read fit almost perfectly. Please continue to share information that you find about this condition. Thanks.Subject: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?To: SSRIsex Date: Sunday, June 17, 2012, 9:16 AM

I found something interesting in my old saliva hormone test. My AM cortisol and DHEA are below normal levels. This was almost 6-7 years ago after withdrawing from zoloft. anybody here test their adrenal function ? I am getting blood test results this week.

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Yes! Absolutely. After a year and a half begging and and not receiving a full panel hormone saliva from my general practicioner, endocrinologist, and urologist, I finally took the initiative two months ago to go to a doctor internal medicine who gave me a saliva test which showed that I have low (out of normal range) cortisol for all times of the day (morning, noon, afternoon, before bed) and also out of range low DHEA levels. A saliva test is preferable to a blood test as it can easily be given at different times of the day to show the cortisol levels at different times of the day, which can show the stage of adrenal abnormality that you may have. I have adrenal exhaustion which is Stage 3.If you had

low cortisol and DHEA, you may have adrenal exhaustion which happens when your adrenals have been "burned out" from constant stress. The adrenals can not produce enough hormones (cortisol, DHEA, testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, etc) My understanding is SSRI's burn our adrenals from the oversupply of circulating serotonin. Then when we go through the withdrawal from the SSRI's and/or benzodiazepines, the stress from the withdrawal just hammers away the poor adrenal glands even more. I believe that having my adrenal dysfunction adressed is the best thing that I have done in my recovery. I feel stronger, sleep better, have more energy, and have less anxiety than I did a month ago..I still have complete PSSD but if we don't heal our adrenals first we won't be have good balance of our hormones to produce good sexual health. I really believe that most of us with

PSSD probably have this problem and need to address this first. I am very angry at the "normal" doctors who would not give me a saliva test, even after I described all of my adrenal fatigue symptoms and specified that I wanted a saliva test to be done. They will cut a person to make big money on surgery at the drop of a hat, but act like it's out of order to allow someone to spit in a plastic tube 4 times a day! I think your having this checked is an excellent idea. If you have a doctor who doesn't want to check for it, please find one who will. I wish I had sooner.. Mike To: SSRIsex Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:16 PM Subject: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

I found something interesting in my old saliva hormone test. My AM cortisol and DHEA are below normal levels. This was almost 6-7 years ago after withdrawing from zoloft. anybody here test their adrenal function ? I am getting blood test results this week.

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, How does one treat adrenal fatigue. Your message was perfect. Thanks a ton.

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Sun, Jun 17, 2012 4:04:23 PM

Yes! Absolutely. After a year and a half begging and and not receiving a full panel hormone saliva from my general practicioner, endocrinologist, and urologist, I finally took the initiative two months ago to go to a doctor internal medicine who gave me a saliva test which showed that I have low (out of normal range) cortisol for all times of the day (morning, noon, afternoon, before bed) and also out of range low DHEA levels. A saliva test is preferable to a blood test as it can easily be given at different times of the day to show the cortisol levels at different times of the day, which can show the stage of adrenal abnormality that you may have. I have adrenal exhaustion which is Stage 3.If you had

low cortisol and DHEA, you may have adrenal exhaustion which happens when your adrenals have been " burned out " from constant stress. The adrenals can not produce enough hormones (cortisol, DHEA, testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, etc) My understanding is SSRI's burn our adrenals from the oversupply of circulating serotonin. Then when we go through the withdrawal from the SSRI's and/or benzodiazepines, the stress from the withdrawal just hammers away the poor adrenal glands even more. I believe that having my adrenal dysfunction adressed is the best thing that I have done in my recovery. I feel stronger, sleep better, have more energy, and have less anxiety than I did a month ago..I still have complete PSSD but if we don't heal our adrenals first we won't be have good balance of our hormones to produce good sexual health. I really believe

that most of us with

PSSD probably have this problem and need to address this first. I am very angry at the " normal " doctors who would not give me a saliva test, even after I described all of my adrenal fatigue symptoms and specified that I wanted a saliva test to be done. They will cut a person to make big money on surgery at the drop of a hat, but act like it's out of order to allow someone to spit in a plastic tube 4 times a day! I think your having this checked is an excellent idea. If you have a doctor who doesn't want to check for it, please find one who will. I wish I had sooner.. Mike To: SSRIsex Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:16 PM Subject: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

I found something interesting in my old saliva hormone test. My AM cortisol and DHEA are below normal levels. This was almost 6-7 years ago after withdrawing from zoloft. anybody here test their adrenal function ? I am getting blood test results this week.

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Vinij, From what my doctor has told me it depends on the stages of the adrenal problems. I am currently in adrenal exhaustion which in worse than adrenal fatigue. The differences in what stage one is in change the treatment one should receive. For instance, I am taking supplements to increase my output of cortisol in order to increase my terribly low levels or cortisol and give my adrenal glands time to rest and heal. If a person with stage 1 of adrenal disorder, which is Acute Adrenal Dysfunction, took the same supplements they would go crazy because they are already producing abnormally large amounts of cortisol. This is why it is best to have the saliva test and have a doctor oversee your condition and supplemental

protocol. The best website that I have found that explains adrenal fatigue is http://www.drlam.com/ It is an affiliated website and have never had contact with anyone from the site, but it has fantastic free information about adrenal fatigue. Personally, I am taking pregnenalone 10mg 2 per day, DHEA 25mg 2 per day, and 2 herbal blends, one is Andren-All 4 capsules a day to heal adrenal glands and Super MiraForte 4 capsules a day to preserve testosterone. These supplements are being dosed to my personal condition. Pregnenalone and DHEA are both hormones that should be taken with extreme caution, and the other supplements contain herbal blends..I think the blood test should give you some good information. A saliva test can show cortisol levels throughout the day. I live in the US. The doctor that is

overseeing my situation had me buy the saliva test kit for about $170. I had to take it home and conduct the test on my own during a normal day and send it off pre-paid Federal Express. The testing was a bit complicted with dietary restrictions and such, but it was worth the trouble. My doctor is using this program. http://www.arkprogram.com/ Mike From: Vinij Khureya

To: michael shounder ; "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

, How does one treat adrenal fatigue. Your message was perfect. Thanks a ton.

From:

michael shounder ;

To:

SSRIsex <SSRIsex >;

Subject:

Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

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Sun, Jun 17, 2012 4:04:23 PM

Yes! Absolutely. After a year and a half begging and and not receiving a full panel hormone saliva from my general practicioner, endocrinologist, and urologist, I finally took the initiative two months ago to go to a doctor internal medicine who gave me a saliva test which showed that I have low (out of normal range) cortisol for all times of the day (morning, noon, afternoon, before bed) and also out of range low DHEA levels. A saliva test is preferable to a blood test as it can easily be given at different times of the day to show the cortisol levels at different times of the day, which can show the stage of adrenal abnormality that you may have. I have adrenal exhaustion which is Stage

3.If you had

low cortisol and DHEA, you may have adrenal exhaustion which happens when your adrenals have been "burned out" from constant stress. The adrenals can not produce enough hormones (cortisol, DHEA, testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, etc) My understanding is SSRI's burn our adrenals from the oversupply of circulating serotonin. Then when we go through the withdrawal from the SSRI's and/or benzodiazepines, the stress from the withdrawal just hammers away the poor adrenal glands even more. I believe that having my adrenal dysfunction adressed is the best thing that I have done in my recovery. I feel stronger, sleep better, have more energy, and have less anxiety than I did a month ago..I still have complete PSSD but if we don't heal our adrenals first we won't be have good balance of our hormones to produce good sexual health. I really believe

that most of us with

PSSD probably have this problem and need to address this first. I am very angry at the "normal" doctors who would not give me a saliva test, even after I described all of my adrenal fatigue symptoms and specified that I wanted a saliva test to be done. They will cut a person to make big money on surgery at the drop of a hat, but act like it's out of order to allow someone to spit in a plastic tube 4 times a day! I think your having this checked is an excellent idea. If you have a doctor who doesn't want to check for it, please find one who will. I wish I had sooner.. Mike To: SSRIsex Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:16 PM Subject: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

I found something interesting in my old saliva hormone test. My AM cortisol and DHEA are below normal levels. This was almost 6-7 years ago after withdrawing from zoloft. anybody here test their adrenal function ? I am getting blood test results this week.

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,Thanks a ton for your quick reply. Just a quick summary of myself if that's OK. I had been on a tricyclic antidepressant for 21 years. Then the Dr. abruptly switched me to an SSRI including Benzos which had me so sick I wanted to die. I have been off all drugs for 27 months (except the last 2mg from 150 mg) of the tricyclic. I had been in bed for the most part of the first 22 months after I came off the drugs. The amount of suffering I went to only someone like you would understand. I had been reduced to just surviving on other's good graces almost totally incapacitated both physically, cognitively and in every way imaginable.Thanks for the hope, I'm glad I did not off myself as I now see that I can get better. I have lived in the United States for 24 years but came back to my native Thailand 4 years ago when things were getting bad. It

has gotten slightly better but not much. Thanks again.VinijSubject: Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex >Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 12:23 AM

Vinij, From what my doctor has told me it depends on the stages of the adrenal problems. I am currently in adrenal exhaustion which in worse than adrenal fatigue. The differences in what stage one is in change the treatment one should receive. For instance, I am taking supplements to increase my output of cortisol in order to increase my terribly low levels or cortisol and give my adrenal glands time to rest and heal. If a person with stage 1 of adrenal disorder, which is Acute Adrenal Dysfunction, took the same supplements they would go crazy because they are already producing abnormally large amounts of cortisol. This is why it is best to have the saliva test and have a doctor oversee your condition and supplemental

protocol. The best website that I have found that explains adrenal fatigue is http://www.drlam.com/ It is an affiliated website and have never had contact with anyone from the site, but it has fantastic free information about adrenal fatigue. Personally, I am taking pregnenalone 10mg 2 per day, DHEA 25mg 2 per day, and 2 herbal blends, one is Andren-All 4 capsules a day to heal adrenal glands and Super MiraForte 4 capsules a day to preserve testosterone. These supplements are being dosed to my personal condition. Pregnenalone and DHEA are both hormones that should be taken with extreme caution, and the other supplements contain herbal blends..I think the blood test should give you some good information. A saliva test can show cortisol levels throughout the day. I live in the

US. The doctor that is

overseeing my situation had me buy the saliva test kit for about $170. I had to take it home and conduct the test on my own during a normal day and send it off pre-paid Federal Express. The testing was a bit complicted with dietary restrictions and such, but it was worth the trouble. My doctor is using this program. http://www.arkprogram.com/ Mike From: Vinij Khureya

To: michael shounder ; "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

, How does one treat adrenal fatigue. Your message was perfect. Thanks a ton.

From:

michael shounder ;

To:

SSRIsex <SSRIsex >;

Subject:

Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

Sent:

Sun, Jun 17, 2012 4:04:23 PM

Yes! Absolutely. After a year and a half begging and and not receiving a full panel hormone saliva from my general practicioner, endocrinologist, and urologist, I finally took the initiative two months ago to go to a doctor internal medicine who gave me a saliva test which showed that I have low (out of normal range) cortisol for all times of the day (morning, noon, afternoon, before bed) and also out of range low DHEA levels. A saliva test is preferable to a blood test as it can easily be given at different times of the day to show the cortisol levels at different times of the day, which can show the stage of adrenal abnormality that you may have. I have adrenal exhaustion which is Stage

3.If you had

low cortisol and DHEA, you may have adrenal exhaustion which happens when your adrenals have been "burned out" from constant stress. The adrenals can not produce enough hormones (cortisol, DHEA, testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, etc) My understanding is SSRI's burn our adrenals from the oversupply of circulating serotonin. Then when we go through the withdrawal from the SSRI's and/or benzodiazepines, the stress from the withdrawal just hammers away the poor adrenal glands even more. I believe that having my adrenal dysfunction adressed is the best thing that I have done in my recovery. I feel stronger, sleep better, have more energy, and have less anxiety than I did a month ago..I still have complete PSSD but if we don't heal our adrenals first we won't be have good balance of our hormones to produce good sexual health. I really believe

that most of us with

PSSD probably have this problem and need to address this first. I am very angry at the "normal" doctors who would not give me a saliva test, even after I described all of my adrenal fatigue symptoms and specified that I wanted a saliva test to be done. They will cut a person to make big money on surgery at the drop of a hat, but act like it's out of order to allow someone to spit in a plastic tube 4 times a day! I think your having this checked is an excellent idea. If you have a doctor who doesn't want to check for it, please find one who will. I wish I had sooner.. Mike To: SSRIsex Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:16 PM Subject: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

I found something interesting in my old saliva hormone test. My AM cortisol and DHEA are below normal levels. This was almost 6-7 years ago after withdrawing from zoloft. anybody here test their adrenal function ? I am getting blood test results this week.

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The following link contains useful posts for adrenal fatigue by Dr Romeo B. no of Monterey, California, who was posting as 'marianco':

http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-134240195.html

Here's an example of one of his quality posts:

http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-134240195-5.html#post470489

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I have no doubt pssd is linked to endocrine problems, but of course we all knew

that. do you guys have dry and pale skin as well ? before pssd my skin used to

be very oily and dark. Ive been steady at producing normal amount of ejaculation

without taking any special drugs or supplement. I think this is due to my

constant intake of fat. Ive been eating olives, milk, meat whenever I can. I

also heard adrenal fatigue can be helped by eating high fat because our body

needs fats in order to produce hormones.

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adrenal problems.  I am currently in adrenal exhaustion which in worse than

adrenal fatigue.  The differences in what stage one is in change the treatment

one should receive.  For instance, I am taking supplements to increase my

output of cortisol in order to increase my terribly low levels or cortisol and

give my adrenal glands time to rest and heal.  If a person with stage 1 of

adrenal disorder, which is Acute Adrenal Dysfunction, took the same supplements

they would go crazy because they are already producing abnormally large

amounts of cortisol.  This is why it is best to have the saliva test and have

a doctor oversee your condition and supplemental

> protocol.  The best website that I have found that explains adrenal fatigue

is http://www.drlam.com/   It is an affiliated website and have never had

contact with anyone from the site, but it has fantastic free information about

adrenal fatigue. Personally, I am taking pregnenalone 10mg 2 per day, DHEA 25mg

2 per day, and 2 herbal blends, one is Andren-All 4 capsules a day to heal

adrenal glands and Super MiraForte 4 capsules a day to preserve testosterone. 

These supplements are being dosed to my personal condition.  Pregnenalone and

DHEA are both hormones that should be taken with extreme caution, and the other

supplements contain herbal blends..I think the blood test should give you some

good information.  A saliva test can show cortisol levels throughout the

day.  I live in the US.  The doctor that is

> overseeing my situation had me buy the saliva test kit for about $170.  I

had to take it home and conduct the test on my own during a normal day and send

it off pre-paid Federal Express. The testing was a bit complicted with dietary

restrictions and such, but it was worth the trouble. My doctor is using this

program.  http://www.arkprogram.com/   Mike    From: Vinij Khureya

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a full panel hormone saliva from my general practicioner, endocrinologist,

and urologist, I finally took the initiative two months ago to go to

a doctor internal medicine who gave me a saliva test which showed that I have

low (out of normal range) cortisol for all times of the day (morning, noon,

afternoon, before bed) and also out of range low DHEA levels.  A saliva test

is preferable to a blood test as it can easily be given at different times of

the day to show the cortisol levels at different times of the day, which can

show the stage of adrenal abnormality that you may have.  I have adrenal

exhaustion which is Stage

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> low cortisol and DHEA, you may have adrenal exhaustion which happens when

your adrenals have been " burned out " from constant stress. The adrenals can not

produce enough hormones (cortisol, DHEA, testosterone, estrogen, dopamine,

etc)  My understanding is SSRI's burn our adrenals from the oversupply of

circulating serotonin.  Then when we go through the withdrawal from the SSRI's

and/or benzodiazepines, the stress from the withdrawal just hammers away the

poor adrenal glands even more.  I believe that having my adrenal dysfunction

adressed is the best thing that I have done in my recovery.  I feel stronger,

sleep better, have more energy, and have less anxiety than I did a month ago..I

still have complete PSSD but if we don't heal our adrenals first we won't be

have good balance of our hormones to produce good sexual health.  I really

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> PSSD probably have this problem and need to address this first.  I am very

angry at the  " normal "  doctors who would not give me a saliva test, even after

I described all of my adrenal fatigue symptoms and specified that I wanted a

saliva test to be done.  They will cut a person to make big money on surgery at

the drop of a hat,  but act like it's out of order to allow someone to spit

in a plastic tube 4 times a day! I think your having this checked is an

excellent idea.  If you have a doctor who doesn't want to check for it, please

find one who will.  I wish I had sooner.. Mike From: way2recoveryy

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cortisol and DHEA are below normal levels. This was almost 6-7 years ago after

withdrawing from zoloft. anybody here test their adrenal function ? I am

getting blood test results this week.

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My skin seemed to change tone as I began SSRI's and benzos (for the worse). It is getting better and looks healthier as more time passes since my withdrawal. Concerning the ejaculate, I don't have near what I used to before PSSD. I'm hoping that if I can improve my adrenal health this can get better. I still have bad case of PSSD. Having a healthy intake of cholesterol (fat) helps our bodies create hormones as cholesterol is a precursor to other hormones. The science says points to if adrenals are down regulated AND have no fat (cholesterol) we have a double hard time making hormones. Your diet probably is helping you in that area.

I guess my main point is that sometimes we get so focused on our symptoms of PSSD that we forget about some of the root causes. Adrenal (endocrine) health is huge factor. I am hoping that overtime if my hormones get into a good balace that libido and genital sensitivity can follow, or at the very least improve. I am looking for any improvement I can get.

To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:22 PMSubject: Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?

I have no doubt pssd is linked to endocrine problems, but of course we all knew that. do you guys have dry and pale skin as well ? before pssd my skin used to be very oily and dark. Ive been steady at producing normal amount of ejaculation without taking any special drugs or supplement. I think this is due to my constant intake of fat. Ive been eating olives, milk, meat whenever I can. I also heard adrenal fatigue can be helped by eating high fat because our body needs fats in order to produce hormones. > > > Subject: Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?> To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex >> Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 12:23 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Vinij, From what my doctor has told me it depends on the stages of the adrenal problems. I am currently in adrenal exhaustion which in worse than adrenal fatigue. The differences in what stage one is in change the treatment one should receive. For instance, I am taking supplements to increase my output of cortisol in order to increase my terribly low levels or cortisol and give my adrenal glands time

to rest and heal. If a person with stage 1 of adrenal disorder, which is Acute Adrenal Dysfunction, took the same supplements they would go crazy because they are already producing abnormally large amounts of cortisol. This is why it is best to have the saliva test and have a doctor oversee your condition and supplemental> protocol.  The best website that I have found that explains adrenal fatigue is http://www.drlam.com/  It is an affiliated website and have never had contact with anyone from the site, but it has fantastic free information about adrenal fatigue. Personally, I am taking pregnenalone 10mg 2 per day, DHEA 25mg 2 per day, and 2 herbal blends, one is Andren-All 4 capsules a day to heal adrenal glands and Super MiraForte 4 capsules a day to preserve testosterone. These supplements are being dosed to my personal condition. Pregnenalone and DHEA are

both hormones that should be taken with extreme caution, and the other supplements contain herbal blends..I think the blood test should give you some good information. A saliva test can show cortisol levels throughout the day. I live in the US. The doctor that is> overseeing my situation had me buy the saliva test kit for about $170. I had to take it home and conduct the test on my own during a normal day and send it off pre-paid Federal Express. The testing was a bit complicted with dietary restrictions and such, but it was worth the trouble. My doctor is using this program. http://www.arkprogram.com/  Mike   > To: michael shounder ; "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:39 PM> Subject: Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > , How does one treat adrenal fatigue. Your message was perfect. Thanks a ton. > > > > > > > From:> > michael shounder ; > > > To:> > SSRIsex <SSRIsex >; > > > Subject:> > Re: anybody have adrenal fatigue ? > > > Sent:> > Sun, Jun 17, 2012 4:04:23 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Yes! Absolutely. After a year and a half begging and and not receiving a full panel hormone saliva from my general practicioner, endocrinologist, and urologist, I finally took the initiative two months ago to go to a doctor internal medicine who gave me a saliva test which showed that I have low (out of normal range) cortisol for all times of the day (morning, noon, afternoon, before bed) and also out of range low DHEA levels.  A

saliva test is preferable to a blood test as it can easily be given at different times of the day to show the cortisol levels at different times of the day, which can show the stage of adrenal abnormality that you may have. I have adrenal exhaustion which is Stage> 3.If you had> low cortisol and DHEA, you may have adrenal exhaustion which happens when your adrenals have been "burned out" from constant stress. The adrenals can not produce enough hormones (cortisol, DHEA, testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, etc) My understanding is SSRI's burn our adrenals from the oversupply of circulating serotonin. Then when we go through the withdrawal from the SSRI's and/or benzodiazepines, the stress from the withdrawal just hammers away the poor adrenal glands even more. I believe that having my adrenal

dysfunction adressed is the best thing that I have done in my recovery. I feel stronger, sleep better, have more energy, and have less anxiety than I did a month ago..I still have complete PSSD but if we don't heal our adrenals first we won't be have good balance of our hormones to produce good sexual health. I really believe> that most of us with> PSSD probably have this problem and need to address this first.  I am very angry at the "normal" doctors who would not give me a saliva test, even after I described all of my adrenal fatigue symptoms and specified that I wanted a saliva test to be done. They will cut a person to make big money on surgery at the drop of a hat, but act like it's out of order to allow someone to spit in a plastic tube 4 times a day! I think your having this checked is an excellent idea. If you have a

doctor who doesn't want to check for it, please find one who will. I wish I had sooner.. Mike > To: SSRIsex > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:16 PM> Subject: anybody have adrenal fatigue ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > I found something interesting in my old saliva hormone test. My AM cortisol and DHEA are below normal levels. This was almost 6-7 years ago after withdrawing from zoloft. anybody here test their adrenal function ? I am getting blood test results this week.>

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Ive gotten my results back this week. couple interesting results, first my

prolactin and FSH came back high, so doctor wanted to order infertility test to

be sure im not infertile. LH is normal.He also wants to test prolactin just to

be sure it is not a fluke or an error. I also did some thyroid antibody tests

and he said I had no thyroid issues but my TSH was 3.7 which I heard even though

it is in the normal range could signal a thyroid issue. and the range was 0.465

-4.680. Also my cortisol level came back 7.4 lower end of the normal range from

6.2-19.4. My testosterone level was normal it seems 700 form range 348- 1197.

There to free test which I dont know what the difference is but normal 19.7 of

from 9.0 -46 and another on normal 137.9 from 40- 250. Unfortunately some how

the lady forgot to do the ACTH stimulation test which I had to do it again

today. My morning erection has been dying on me again for whatever reason but I

am still producing amounts like a porn star. And this could be a placebo effect

but after I got a ACTH stim test, I could have sworn I got more alert and more

visually stimulated and sexually excited. I see this sign as either Im really

good at convincing myself with placebo effect or a sign of pituitary signaling

adrenal problems.

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blueish color, like there is no life inside of it, like its just a useless piece

of meat hanging.

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Some links regarding adrenal fatigue aka adrenal insufficiency aka Hypothalimic-Pituitary-Adrenal axis dysregulation, usually due to insufficient production of cortisol, which happens during the late stage of adrenal insufficiency:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_insufficiency

http://featherstone.bravehost.com/thyroid/peatfieldadrenal.html

http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C17669.html

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/adrenalburnout19apr05.shtml

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/faq/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/how-to-treat/

I wonder how SSRIs affect the Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Adrenal axis function?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0024320596000665

Long-term use of an SSRI, or sudden discontinuation of an SSRI, are known to cause serotonin depletion.

Perhaps the lower level of serotonin after coming off the SSRI is causing a lower level of cortisol, resulting in adrenal insufficiency? Low cortisol = low libido.

"Your body maintains a balance of serotonin and cortisol production: the more serotonin present, the more your body produces cortisol, and vice versa."

http://www.livestrong.com/article/548278-5-htp-cortisol/

I have found 50 mg capsule of 5-HTP, 2 or 3 times per day, more effective in relieving stress than 100 mg doses of 5-HTP. In fact the high 100 mg 5HTP capsule, which is all released instantly, is likely to cause the body to reduce its own production of serotonin.

There is Natrol 5-HTP, 100mg, Time Release Tablets, where the 5-HTP is released slowly over a period of 12 hours.

>> > The following link contains useful posts for adrenal fatigue by Dr Romeo> B. no of Monterey, California, who was posting as 'marianco':> > http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-13424019\> 5.html> <http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-1342401\> 95.html>> > > > Here's an example of one of his quality posts:> > http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-13424019\> 5-5.html#post470489> <http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-1342401\> 95-5.html#post470489>>

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A very good link regarding Adrenal Fatigue aka Adrenal Insufficiency (insufficient cortisol production to cope with stress):

http://livingnetwork.co.za/lifestylefunctional-medicine/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/

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Dr no says, "It is the sleep, itself, that Melatonin triggers that helps restore hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis function."

http://www.definitivemind.com/forums/showpost.php?s=4162d5cdd02454b45ce7836c45c77128 & p=573 & postcount=9

Adrenal fatigue = Hypothalamic-Pitutary-Adrenal Axis Dysregulation.

From this thread:

http://www.definitivemind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107

Also,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14715839

> >> >> > The following link contains useful posts for adrenal fatigue by Dr> Romeo> > B. no of Monterey, California, who was posting as 'marianco':> >> >> http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-13424019\> \> > 5.html> >> <http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-1342401\> \> > 95.html>> >> >> >> > Here's an example of one of his quality posts:> >> >> http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-13424019\> \> > 5-5.html#post470489> >> <http://thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-1342401\> \> > 95-5.html#post470489>> >>

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Yes I have Adrenal Fatigue, I accidentally found out last year by on a welm I

bought some Rhodela supplements and starting feeling less stress and a better

sex drive. I started doing research and it had lead me to bio-identical

hormones. I've been on them with ok results(since March)it just takes a long

time. Just recently I learned about how blood sugar effects adrenals and sex

drive so I started taking something for that as well and that has helped the

fatigue part a lot and a little with the sex drive. Next I'm going to try

Licorice Root as I heard that is one of the best things for Adrenal Fatigue.

The last thing is thus far is I'm trying to eat right, I find all of the

supplements and bio-idential hormones work 10x better by doing this its just

hard for me to keep it up sometimes.

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> I found something interesting in my old saliva hormone test. My AM cortisol

and DHEA are below normal levels. This was almost 6-7 years ago after

withdrawing from zoloft. anybody here test their adrenal function ? I am

getting blood test results this week.

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I recently saw my doctor again. There def something wrong with hpa. My prolactin

is abnormally high, FSH is high. My cortisol on the low end. He thinks something

is wrong with my pituitary. So Im getting a MRI done soon. wish me luck

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