Guest guest Posted July 29, 1998 Report Share Posted July 29, 1998 Hi Diane !! > Wonder if you could get your Doc to give you one of those doo-dads like > they give you after general anasthesia to exercise those lungs? If not, I am still being checked out this week. My chest is still very bad. So I don't know what they will give to me yet. I asked about the Tessalon Perles, and no luck. > you can do it on your own. There are scads of books and info on > breathing techniques. I like the yoga type stuff...breathe as deep as > you can thru your nose, and hold it a bit and imagine those lungs > filling up and getting big, then put the tip of your tongue on the roof > of your mouth and swoosh the breath out as hard as you can. I also use > imagery in the form of white light scrubbers going round and round > inside my lungs cleaning them out, and before you know it...Hock...phewy I use this approach with Emmett tapes. His best tape is Healing Journey. I have five other Emmett tapes and all are great gear. Plus I learned a lot of techniques whilst studying religion and cultures. Some of the Mayan, Slavic and Sareva approaches that are close to " sympathetic " magic work well in creative visualisation. Plus techniques used by the Golden Dawn work very well. But the old " reality " based mind kicks in too much. Plus stress from my current work is affecting me. However I did get a call from a employment agency rep at work today, and that gave me a buzz because he is coming back from Interstate and has some offers pending, plus he wanted me to look at a contract position, but I knocked that back. > a big wad of phlegm comes up....The steroids do good work, but they have > made my veins so thin and fragile that they blow real quick! Just one of > the nasty side effects. Also oral steroids make me crazy, so if I get a > severe inflammation from exposure to bleach or mold which makes me get > hives inside the respiratory system, they give me the shots now! So, I > have learned to stay away from triggers. If it smells strong, or bites > your tongue, RUN! Cheers...hang in there buddy, we're with ya! HUGS! This is still day two of the steroid based puffer. With things that affect me, I can't smell them... I just get ill. So no warning signs of smells. I must admit that the two things that mainly bug me are the constant coughing and the times when I feel like I am trying to grab a breath in a vacuum like space. Anyway, my main concern actually is that I want a nice or at least better job, and I want to present well. Anyone live near Dodgers Stadium ?? Regards . ****************************************** Milton |santeri@... | ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.eisa.net.au/~santeri =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 1998 Report Share Posted July 29, 1998 Doesn't asthma suck. I was in the ER last night and at the pharmacy till after midnight. I had to take a dose of prednisone before they would let me leave the hospital so it's been 33 hours since i last slept. <><><><><> <><><><><><> ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Healing is the best revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 1998 Report Share Posted July 29, 1998 , You just reminded me that I too have had severe bronchial reactions like you & intermittent asthma. This may be a little underpowered, but it may work too. Theophyllin (brand name Rx Theodore) can work on asthma very well (could maybe help you +/-) and is harmless. I has been included in over-the counter asthma medications that are generally cheap (ask your pharmacist?) and it is a derivative of regular tea. Drinking a lot of tea could help too. Why do I want to cure everybody today? Ken At 06:33 AM 7/30/98 +1000, you wrote: > > >Hi Diane !! > >> Wonder if you could get your Doc to give you one of those doo-dads like >> they give you after general anasthesia to exercise those lungs? If not, > >I am still being checked out this week. My chest is still very bad. So I >don't know what they will give to me yet. >I asked about the Tessalon Perles, and no luck. > >> you can do it on your own. There are scads of books and info on >> breathing techniques. I like the yoga type stuff...breathe as deep as >> you can thru your nose, and hold it a bit and imagine those lungs >> filling up and getting big, then put the tip of your tongue on the roof >> of your mouth and swoosh the breath out as hard as you can. I also use >> imagery in the form of white light scrubbers going round and round >> inside my lungs cleaning them out, and before you know it...Hock...phewy > >I use this approach with Emmett tapes. His best tape is Healing >Journey. I have five other Emmett tapes and all are great gear. >Plus I learned a lot of techniques whilst studying religion and cultures. >Some of the Mayan, Slavic and Sareva approaches that are close to > " sympathetic " magic work well in creative visualisation. Plus techniques >used by the Golden Dawn work very well. >But the old " reality " based mind kicks in too much. >Plus stress from my current work is affecting me. However I did get a call >from a employment agency rep at work today, and that gave me a buzz because >he is coming back from Interstate and has some offers pending, plus he >wanted me to look at a contract position, but I knocked that back. > > >> a big wad of phlegm comes up....The steroids do good work, but they have >> made my veins so thin and fragile that they blow real quick! Just one of >> the nasty side effects. Also oral steroids make me crazy, so if I get a >> severe inflammation from exposure to bleach or mold which makes me get >> hives inside the respiratory system, they give me the shots now! So, I >> have learned to stay away from triggers. If it smells strong, or bites >> your tongue, RUN! Cheers...hang in there buddy, we're with ya! HUGS! > >This is still day two of the steroid based puffer. >With things that affect me, I can't smell them... I just get ill. So no >warning signs of smells. > >I must admit that the two things that mainly bug me are the constant >coughing and the times when I feel like I am trying to grab a breath in a >vacuum like space. >Anyway, my main concern actually is that I want a nice or at least better >job, and I want to present well. > >Anyone live near Dodgers Stadium ?? > > >Regards > >. > >****************************************** > Milton |santeri@... | >----------------------------------------------------------- >http://www.eisa.net.au/~santeri >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 1998 Report Share Posted July 29, 1998 , Sorry to hear about your distress with asthma. I think its one of the scariest things. You proved my point that being a patient is hard work. 33 hours is virtually a work-week. And your presence made a big contribution to the payments on the waiting room. Seerioudly though, If you are an acute asthmatic, can't there be some provisions for you to medicate + get oxygen in an acute attack that spares you a 33 hour stint? I get disturbed about the lack of health care provisions for humane treatment of predictable recurrent acute & ongoing chronic problems like this, and of course pain. Ken At 03:32 PM 7/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >From: Andy24747@... (A. ) > >Doesn't asthma suck. I was in the ER last night and at the pharmacy >till after midnight. I had to take a dose of prednisone before they >would let me leave the hospital so it's been 33 hours since i last >slept. > > <><><><><> <><><><><><> >~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Healing is the best revenge. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 1998 Report Share Posted July 29, 1998 Drinking tea or coffee or anything with caffein can help put off an asthma attack. I don't why or how, oh yeah it's a bronchial dialator, so it can buy time. I have done that in the middle of the night when I don't want to get dressed and drive to the hospital. <><><><><> <><><><><><> ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Healing is the best revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 1998 Report Share Posted July 29, 1998 You're right, I've been awake almost an entire work week, 36 hours and counting. But I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I have been up for 36 hours cos I get up around 6:00 am to be to work by 7:30 and then I went to the ER around 9:00 pm and was there until after 11:00 when they gave me the pred. I am already hyperactive and the pred makes it worse which is why I haven't been to sleep since I started the med. I am supposed to use my inhalers daily but I don't because my asthma is more acute than chronic. last night was probably triggered by a nearby forest fire. The last one before that was Christmas eve services when people had on too much perfume. That's seven months between major attacks, to me it doesn't make sense to take meds daily for that. I do take vitamins and supplements but steroids, no thanks. <><><><><> <><><><><><> ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Healing is the best revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 1998 Report Share Posted July 30, 1998 In addition, tea specifically contains theophyllin, which both dialates & soothes lung tissue. So the old reliance on tea for colds has some basis. Ken At 05:59 PM 7/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >From: Andy24747@... (A. ) > >Drinking tea or coffee or anything with caffein can help put off an >asthma attack. I don't why or how, oh yeah it's a bronchial dialator, so >it can buy time. I have done that in the middle of the night when I >don't want to get dressed and drive to the hospital. > > <><><><><> <><><><><><> >~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Healing is the best revenge. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 1998 Report Share Posted July 30, 1998 Well, I have a big chip on my shoulder for emergency rooms, gained through personal disastrous experience & the most unimaginable horrors while trying to get others helped. Anyway, someone with 33 hours clocked in ought to get preferential treatment. Ken t 06:05 PM 7/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >You're right, I've been awake almost an entire work week, 36 hours and >counting. >But I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I have been up for 36 hours >cos I get up around 6:00 am to be to work by 7:30 and then I went to the >ER around 9:00 pm and was there until after 11:00 when they gave me the >pred. I am already hyperactive and the pred makes it worse which is why >I haven't been to sleep since I started the med. > I am supposed to use my inhalers daily but I don't because my asthma is >more acute than chronic. last night was probably triggered by a nearby >forest fire. The last one before that was Christmas eve services when >people had on too much perfume. That's seven months between major >attacks, to me it doesn't make sense to take meds daily for that. I do >take vitamins and supplements but steroids, no thanks. > > <><><><><> <><><><><><> >~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Healing is the best revenge. > >Received: from mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net > [207.79.35.92]) by postoffice-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/po.gso.24Feb98) > with ESMTP id PAA12363; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:53:27 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.135.229]) by > mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/ms.graham.14Aug97) with SMTP > id PAA02880; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) >Message-Id: >Received: (qmail 17242 invoked by alias); 29 Jul 1998 22:52:26 -0000 >Mailing-List: list chronic_painonelist; contact http://www.onelist.com >Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 15:56:16 -0700 >Delivered-To: mailing list chronic_painonelist >Precedence: bulk > >Reply-to: chronic_painonelist >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset= " us-ascii " >To: chronic_painonelist >Subject: Re: PUFF AND HUFF > > > >, > Sorry to hear about your distress with asthma. I think its one of the >scariest things. You proved my point that being a patient is hard work. 33 >hours is virtually a work-week. And your presence made a big contribution >to the payments on the waiting room. > Seerioudly though, If you are an acute asthmatic, can't there be some >provisions for you to medicate + get oxygen in an acute attack that spares >you a 33 hour stint? I get disturbed about the lack of health care >provisions for humane treatment of predictable recurrent acute & ongoing >chronic problems like this, and of course pain. > Ken >At 03:32 PM 7/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >>From: Andy24747@... (A. ) >> >>Doesn't asthma suck. I was in the ER last night and at the pharmacy >>till after midnight. I had to take a dose of prednisone before they >>would let me leave the hospital so it's been 33 hours since i last >>slept. >> >> <><><><><> <><><><><><> >>~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ >> Healing is the best revenge. >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 1998 Report Share Posted July 31, 1998 Hi , The active ingredient in theophyllin is found in all " traditional " teas, that is, teas made from tea leaves rather than herbal teas, and I believe it is not present in green tea as well. I used to drink regular tea a lot, and you don't have to consume huge amounts to get the beneficial effect. The downside to tea is that it contains about half the caffeine as coffee, so if you are caffeine-sensitive (like me) you don't want to overdo. I believe that the theophyllin is not disturbed in decaff teas also. If you haven't taken theophyllin, you might want to discuss it with your doc as something that could reduce or stop the attacks (sometimes) Although my attacks are infrequent now (living in the desert works wonders), They have been & can be pretty heavy duty, & I have gotten by OK for the past few years with theophyllin, ephedrine, inhalers & over the counter antihistamine. From tour descriptions, your attacks are extremely severe, so this all might not be appropriate for you, but its worth discussing, & could reduce the intensity some. Ken At 07:20 PM 7/30/98 -0600, you wrote: >From: Andy24747@... (A. ) > >All teas or just specific ones? > > ~*~*~*~ ~*~*~*~ >Peace of mind is the mental condition in which you have accepted the >worst. Lin Y. >§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§ > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 1998 Report Share Posted July 31, 1998 The active ingredient in theophyllin is found in all " traditional " Isn't that the stuff that's found in turkey that is supposed to help you sleep. I'm getting all confused. I'm not much of a tea drinker, the only thing I really like is peppermint iced tea. And the breathing is better. I'm still a little congested on one side of my face but I was able to sit in the steam room tongiht and that seems to have helped. ~*~*~*~ ~*~*~*~ Peace of mind is the mental condition in which you have accepted the worst. Lin Y. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 1998 Report Share Posted August 2, 1998 The only problem with the benadryl stuff, it keeps me awake. Because of my hyperactivity everything that is supposed to make one sleepy seems to keep me awake. ~*~*~*~ ~*~*~*~ Peace of mind is the mental condition in which you have accepted the worst. Lin Y. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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