Guest guest Posted September 24, 1998 Report Share Posted September 24, 1998 Can I cheat and say just go to my web page below ? It says everything there is to say about me I think. Lyn Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ( Luther King) http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html And go to onelist.com and join rheumathritis and be an arthritis warrior!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 1998 Report Share Posted September 24, 1998 Can I cheat and say just go to my web page below ? It says everything there is to say about me I think. Lyn Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ( Luther King) http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html And go to onelist.com and join rheumathritis and be an arthritis warrior!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 1998 Report Share Posted September 24, 1998 By the way Mike...I wouldn't complain..you have had a very interesting life!!! I would have loved to travel as you did, You should write a book!!Betcha you have some stories..... Lyn Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ( Luther King) http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html And go to onelist.com and join rheumathritis and be an arthritis warrior!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 1998 Report Share Posted September 24, 1998 That's not a bad idea, Mike I guess that I'll bat second: I am 39, married with one daughter and one grandson. I graduated High School in 1977 and then joined the US Army for 4 years as an infantryman. After my service stay, in which I saw Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, Germany and New Jersey, I met and married my wife. My daugher came shortly thereafter. This past June, I became a grandpa at the age of 39. My grandson is beautiful. My hobbies are building scale military & civilian aircraft, collecting aviation photos, American history, surfing the web, listening to classical music & sketching. In 1992, I had an accident in which I herniated four discs in my lower back. I will never forget this as long as I live. I had surgery in 1993, felt better for a while, then everything came back on me in triplicate. I have a radiating pain (sciatica) in my legs, arthritis, scar tissue and bone fragments in my lower back which have caused nerve damage and it is almost impossible for me to move at times because of the physical anguish in my legs, back and feet. It is becoming more and more difficult to walk every day. The floor is the most comfortable place for me. The depression which accompanies this pain is another story. Now recently, I have been told that another disc is herniated and that I may have to go to s Hopkins in Baltimore to see a spinal specialist. Next week, I will see a spinal specialist in town were he will explain " more options " , one of which includes a catheter drip to my spine. I was very active before I was injured. I played football, baseball, worked out and was pretty much never still. I have gone from one end of the spectrum to the other. Now that I have made everyone feel 10 times worse than they need to feel, I will let the next person have center stage... AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 1998 Report Share Posted September 24, 1998 A small comment if I may... You talk about the other end of the spectrum. Here's what I think is close to, but even then not quite, the other end of the spectrum for an active person. One of my young neighbours, 19 years old, promising hockey player gets pushed into the boards during a friendly game. Injures his neck and is a quadriplegic. That's rough. So you see ? You're not even close yet ! Doesn't that feel better ? I certainly would take no joy in someone else's pain but there are times when looking around you makes you wonder what all the bitching is about. I do this to myself just about every day. I find it helps me put things in perspective. As for making us feel worse, you blew it again. Make us feel more sympathy, yes. Worse ? No. On this list, we all share in our ups and downs, and heaven knows there are some really mean downs. What we try to do is share with each other the pain, and the joys we feel and in doing so perhaps spread a little sunshine around. Damn, you guys are turning me into a wuss with all this slurpy stuff. Can't we just insult each other like civilized people ? Mike mailto:byteme@... ---------------------------------------------------- Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 19431463 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19431463 or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 19431463@... ---------------------------------------------------- > Re: Risky proposition... > > > The depression which accompanies this pain is another story. > Now recently, I have been told that another disc is herniated and that I > may have to go to s Hopkins in Baltimore to see a spinal specialist. > Next week, I will see a spinal specialist in town were he will explain > " more options " , one of which includes a catheter drip to my spine. > I was very active before I was injured. I played football, baseball, > worked out and was pretty much never still. I have gone from one end of > the spectrum to the other. > > Now that I have made everyone feel 10 times worse than they need to > feel, I will let the next person have center stage... > > AL > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 1998 Report Share Posted September 24, 1998 Yes, Mike, there's no question that there are people in the world worse off than me... " When you think about people who have no shoes, you should think about the people that have no feet. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1998 Report Share Posted September 25, 1998 Wow, I guess I missed some of the commotion here. thanks, mike, for appending 's message. , I can see that you are miserable about your loss, and rightly so. But losses are con stand in life, and we try to find ways to make peace with them. I think you will find people here focusing on who & what we are, not exactly what we did or used to do. There are probably a million reasons why you could lose your ability to take part in competitive sports. You could have been born black in the south at the wrong time. But from what you say, you seem to have medical care that is at least able to produce options for you now & in the future. You can get on with the rest of your life. With limitations, but who really has no limitations, but us when we're adolescents who can do everything. And better. Ken t 08:10 PM 9/24/98 -0400, you wrote: > > >A small comment if I may... > >You talk about the other end of the spectrum. Here's what I think is close >to, but even then not quite, the other end of the spectrum for an active >person. One of my young neighbours, 19 years old, promising hockey player >gets pushed into the boards during a friendly game. Injures his neck and is >a quadriplegic. That's rough. So you see ? You're not even close yet ! >Doesn't that feel better ? I certainly would take no joy in someone else's >pain but there are times when looking around you makes you wonder what all >the bitching is about. I do this to myself just about every day. I find it >helps me put things in perspective. > >As for making us feel worse, you blew it again. Make us feel more sympathy, >yes. Worse ? No. On this list, we all share in our ups and downs, and >heaven knows there are some really mean downs. What we try to do is share >with each other the pain, and the joys we feel and in doing so perhaps >spread a little sunshine around. > >Damn, you guys are turning me into a wuss with all this slurpy stuff. Can't >we just insult each other like civilized people ? > >Mike >mailto:byteme@... >---------------------------------------------------- >Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 19431463 or, >* Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: >http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19431463 or, >* Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen >19431463@... >---------------------------------------------------- > >> Re: Risky proposition... >> >> > >> The depression which accompanies this pain is another story. >> Now recently, I have been told that another disc is herniated and that I >> may have to go to s Hopkins in Baltimore to see a spinal specialist. >> Next week, I will see a spinal specialist in town were he will explain >> " more options " , one of which includes a catheter drip to my spine. >> I was very active before I was injured. I played football, baseball, >> worked out and was pretty much never still. I have gone from one end of >> the spectrum to the other. >> >> Now that I have made everyone feel 10 times worse than they need to >> feel, I will let the next person have center stage... >> >> AL >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1998 Report Share Posted September 25, 1998 For me, the very worst is people who have no hope. Not those of us who are down just now about life's unfairness, but children in Chile with no parents who have to stay hidden so the police don't shoot them to death, but can't really do this because then they can't beg for food. Or members of the lowest cast in India who are born & will die beggars (but I suspect some of them make peace with their lives anyway. If there is any message for here, it is that we humans have an incredible gift for adaptability, and john, I am sure that all of us here hope you will find how to tap into yours. Perhaps after some procedure to diminish your pain & suffering, you will feel sufficiently renewed to see more options in your life. Ken At 08:27 PM 9/24/98 -0400, you wrote: >Yes, Mike, there's no question that there are people in the world worse >off than me... > > " When you think about people who have no shoes, you should think about >the people that have no feet. " > >Received: from mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net >(mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net > [207.79.35.91]) by postoffice-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/po.gso.24Feb98) > with ESMTP id RAA25820; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:09:53 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from onelist.com (pop.onelist.com [209.207.164.31]) by > mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with > SMTP id RAA04818; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT) >Received: (qmail 11836 invoked by alias); 25 Sep 1998 00:12:37 -0000 >Received: (qmail 11778 invoked from network); 25 Sep 1998 00:12:35 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO smtp13.bellglobal.com) (204.101.251.52) by > pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 25 Sep 1998 00:12:35 -0000 >Received: from mike (ppp2176.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.244.64]) by > smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07201 for ><chronic_painonelist>; > Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:09:40 -0400 (EDT) > >To: <chronic_painonelist> >Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:10:39 -0400 >Message-ID: <000e01bde818$edcdf980$40f4acce@mike> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 >Importance: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >In-reply-to: >Mailing-List: list chronic_painonelist; contact http://www.onelist.com >Delivered-To: mailing list chronic_painonelist >Precedence: bulk >Reply-to: chronic_painonelist >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset= " iso-8859-1 " >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: Re: Risky proposition... > > > >A small comment if I may... > >You talk about the other end of the spectrum. Here's what I think is close >to, but even then not quite, the other end of the spectrum for an active >person. One of my young neighbours, 19 years old, promising hockey player >gets pushed into the boards during a friendly game. Injures his neck and is >a quadriplegic. That's rough. So you see ? You're not even close yet ! >Doesn't that feel better ? I certainly would take no joy in someone else's >pain but there are times when looking around you makes you wonder what all >the bitching is about. I do this to myself just about every day. I find it >helps me put things in perspective. > >As for making us feel worse, you blew it again. Make us feel more sympathy, >yes. Worse ? No. On this list, we all share in our ups and downs, and >heaven knows there are some really mean downs. What we try to do is share >with each other the pain, and the joys we feel and in doing so perhaps >spread a little sunshine around. > >Damn, you guys are turning me into a wuss with all this slurpy stuff. Can't >we just insult each other like civilized people ? > >Mike >mailto:byteme@... >---------------------------------------------------- >Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 19431463 or, >* Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: >http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19431463 or, >* Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen >19431463@... >---------------------------------------------------- > >> Re: Risky proposition... >> >> > >> The depression which accompanies this pain is another story. >> Now recently, I have been told that another disc is herniated and that I >> may have to go to s Hopkins in Baltimore to see a spinal specialist. >> Next week, I will see a spinal specialist in town were he will explain >> " more options " , one of which includes a catheter drip to my spine. >> I was very active before I was injured. I played football, baseball, >> worked out and was pretty much never still. I have gone from one end of >> the spectrum to the other. >> >> Now that I have made everyone feel 10 times worse than they need to >> feel, I will let the next person have center stage... >> >> AL >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1998 Report Share Posted September 25, 1998 Yes, Ken, Pain does cloud our perception of things in general. When I am in more pain than normal, I am extremely vulnerable and sensitive. Here's praying will find some relief. Lyn Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ( Luther King) http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html And go to onelist.com and join rheumathritis and be an arthritis warrior!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1998 Report Share Posted September 25, 1998 Mike, you're just a cuddly old Teddy Bear dressed up like a Grisly. We see through you. Ray ---------------------------------------------------- Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 14278868 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/14278868 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 14278868@... For downloading ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ Ray in Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1998 Report Share Posted September 25, 1998 Don't make me get nasty, Ray, it's pretty ugly ! <g> Mike mailto:byteme@... ---------------------------------------------------- Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 19431463 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19431463 or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 19431463@... ---------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: H. R. Neal > > Mike, > you're just a cuddly old Teddy Bear dressed up like a Grisly. We see > through you. > Ray > ---------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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