Guest guest Posted September 14, 1998 Report Share Posted September 14, 1998 Tammy, For the past several weeks, after some interchange with Mike, I realized that the depression is in itself a major illness & I believe should be treated as such. Just because it's often tied to chronic pain doesn't mean the same doctor should treat it, unless he/she can treat it well. I've had treatment done both ways, and I think often the treatment of the psychiatric problem, which can be by itself as or more destructive as chronic pain, needs to be recognized & given its due. Anyone with only depression would be wise to seek someone who treats it as well as possible. Should we settle for less? Ken ---------- Turbin | kturbin@...| webmaster@... | Net Biz Development *Page me: http://www.mirabilis.com/1719872 | GetICQ http://www.icq.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 1998 Report Share Posted September 15, 1998 Ken....I know depression can be permanant..I think thats what I'm going through now is permanant depression. I hate that. I tell everyone that if I didn't have my computer I would be in a psychiatric hospital or whatever. I have plenty of support online and friends and family around me. I am thankful I joined the onelist and writing to other like me. When I was working parttime my depression was less but now I'm not working it seems like it starting all over again. I'm sure things will improve with me as time goes on. Thanks for writing to me ken. I feel good when someone writes back to me. CH>Tammy, CH> We know that many times chronic depression comes with chronic pain & CH>other serious medical problems. Medically, it is thought that once a person CH>remains depressed for 2 years, body chemistry changes & the depression becom CH>permanent. It may be treatable, but will not go away. CH> I know that it is horrible for you. And although you consider ending CH>your life, you probably don't really want to. Getting these thoughts is very CH>scary too. But most of us have similar experience. It is important to begin CH>understand that having suicidal thought with an oppressive & torturing medic CH>condition does not mean necessarily that you are suicidal, but that you are CH>feeling desperate. CH> I have had a massive depression for more years than I can count. I w CH>considered a 'non responder " , had excellent doctors & virtually every CH>medication possible & still it got me nothing but more difficulty from side CH>effects. The " endogenous depression " (permanent, self-sustaining) diagnosis CH>sounds & feels like a death sentence. However, I have done treatment for CH>others CH>for about 35 years before I became so disabled I couldn't work. I was involv CH>with unique treatment programs, with people who were given up on, and found CH>that a very large number of them got better. CH> I accepted the life sentence of endogenous depression years ago. CH>However, it is in my nature to never stop trying to find solutions. CH>Interestingly, during the past several months I have gotten a lot better. Th CH>is against all odds, and could of course be a brief remission. But Inever ha CH>any remissions. So I think things are changing. I attribute this to some CH>things CH>I have done, and also to not giving up on medications and treatment. CH> Have had same thoughts you are expressing, and no relief except tryi CH>to live through them. There is no magic answer, but I ask you to do everythi CH>you can to not allow yourself to see this as permanent. CH> Ken CH>At 10:53 AM 9/15/98 -0400, you wrote: CH>>From: Shrimperooski@... CH>> CH>>Hi Ken...I'm am seeing someone for the depression through the mental CH>>health system here...I take elavil and prozac prescribed by them. The CH>>prozac seems to be helping so far but the back pain itself is no change CH>>but there is nothing much that can be done there. Sometimes I get so CH>>depressed cause of not working I feel like there is no end of living but CH>>I have alot of support from people. I keep telling my husband to buy a CH>>gun but he won't cause he thinks I'm going to use it on myself but I to CH>>chicken to do something like that plus I have the support. Thanks CH>>goodness for that. CH>> CH>>CH>Tammy, CH>> CH>>CH> For the past several weeks, after some interchange with Mike, I CH>>CH>realized CH>>CH>that the depression is in itself a major illness & I believe should be CH>treat CH>>CH>as such. Just because it's often tied to chronic pain doesn't mean the CH>same CH>>CH>doctor should treat it, unless he/she can treat it well. CH>> CH>>CH> I've had treatment done both ways, and I think often the treatme CH>o CH>>CH>the psychiatric problem, which can be by itself as or more destructive a CH>>CH>chronic pain, needs to be recognized & given its due. CH>> CH>>CH> Anyone with only depression would be wise to seek someone who CH>>CH>treats it CH>>CH>as well as possible. Should we settle for less? CH>> CH>>CH> Ken CH>> CH>>CH>---------- CH>>CH> Turbin | kturbin@...| webmaster@... | Net Biz CH>Development CH>>CH>*Page me: http://www.mirabilis.com/1719872 | GetICQ http://www.icq.com/ CH>> CH>> CH>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ CH>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 1998 Report Share Posted September 15, 1998 Ken, that was an excellent letter you sent Tammy. Very uplifting for me also , as I feel I am in the same place as you. I just have accepted it.It is like part of me at this point. Maybe too much so...your letter gave me pause to ponder. Thank you! Lyn =^..^= " We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking up at the stars. " Wilde http://home.talkcity.com/spiritcir/lynmari/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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