Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 Sally, You remind me of my days in West Africa with the Peace Corps, with your refrain of " more and more and more fats " ! I remember being served a mound of fermented corn dough (like a sort of sour polenta), called banku, absolutely swimming in a rich, red palm oil-based gravy (yes, there were even some meat and vegetables at the bottom of all that oil!)--and the more wealthy the household and the more honored the guest, the more oil was ladled on top!! Of course, we " modernized " folks turned up our noses at such quantities of oil (hopefully a turning that was invisible to our proud hosts!). Can you or anyone give any examples of before-after or any other tales as to why you are so very pro-fat? Is it simply from reading many Weston A. Price and other nutritional writings, or do you have any eyewitness reports of the power of fats? Thanks for sharing, in Illinois safallon@... 10/18/2001 01:06 PM Please respond to cc: Subject: Re: Correlation Between Epilepsy and Diet? Dear Kareemah, I think you need to emphasize the fats even more. Make your smoothie with cream (not milk) and plenty of egg yolks. In fact, I would give him cream with every meal--shipped cream on fruits, cream in sauces, etc. Loads of butter. And of course, cod liver oil every day. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2001 Report Share Posted October 21, 2001 , You wrote: << " Can you or anyone give any examples of before-after or any other tales as to why you are so very pro-fat? Is it simply from reading many Weston A. Price and other nutritional writings, or do you have any eyewitness reports of the power of fats? " >> Here are some info about the use of a Ketogenic diet for reducing seizures. The ketogenic diet is a high fat diet which appears to benefit some people with epilepsy, particularly children. The Ketogenic Resource: http://www.mynchen.demon.co.uk/index.htm Follow the link: o The ketogenic diet and on this page follow the link: o An introduction to the ketogenic diet First Prospective Study of Ketogenic Diet Says It Reduces Seizures: http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/press/1998/DECEMBER/981207.HTM http://www.choa.org/library/conditions/ketogenic_overview.shtml Ketogenic diet may not require initial fast: http://www.neurologyreviews.com/apr01/nr_apr01_ketogenic.html From The Ketogenic Resource: " Keaton has been on the diet for about 8 months and we have seen a positive effect on his progress. He does much better on days when he is in high ketosis then when he is not " " has had one seizure since the start of the diet in May 1996. She is now walking and starting to talk. This is the greatest improvement we have experienced. " " His seizures now are far less frequent, and less severe than previously. " " We have never seen seizure control like we are having right now in Nichole's life. We are hopeful that it will continue and that she will develop normal. " " Kameron will be one year SEIZURE FREE July 16, 1996 and on June 14, 1996, he will be four months DRUG FREE!!! " " When was on the diet we finally got to meet him, he was seizure free for the first time in his life. " " Great program! Stopped five anti-epileptic drugs. 3/95 to present " Of course, these comments are anecdotal, and there are many others who have not benefited from the diet in the same way. So, what is the diet? There are a number of variant diets. The classical 4 to 1 diet contains four times as much fat as carbohydrate plus protein. (For comparison, in a normal diet there is less than half as much fat as carbohydrate plus protein.) As well as maintaining this ratio, the total energy intake is restricted to about three quarters of the normal, and liquid intake may also be controlled. The diet is normally introduced by a period of hospitalisation. Prior to going to hospital, the victim is starved for 12 hours. On entry to hospital, a reference EEG will be taken, and the child continues to fast. By the next day, ketosis should be achieved, and the diet will start at one third of the recommended calorie (fuel) intake. On day four the calorie intake will be increased to two thirds the recommended level, and on day five the full intake will be achieved. Providing there are no complications the child will then be discharged. Meanwhile during the period of hospitalisation a suitable diet will have been designed and the parents will have been briefed on its operation. In variants of the diet, the ratio of fat to carbohydrate plus protein may be reduced below 4 to 1, to 3.5 to 1 or 3 to 1, or it may be increased to as much as 5 to 1. Typically the lower ratios are used with younger children. Also, once the diet is in operation successfully, the ratio may be reduced over time as far as possible, providing the beneficial results continue. A much more significant variant is the MCT oil diet. MCT stand for medium chain triglycerides, which are a particular type of saturated fat found in coconut oil. MCT oil is one of the wonder ingredients of the nineties, being used by athletes to improve their performance. MCT oil is special because although it is a fat, it metabolises quickly, like carbohydrate. It does this because it can pass directly though the intestinal wall into the portal blood system and thence to the liver where it is metabolised, instead of having to go via the lymphatic system like longer chain fats. The advantage of using MCT oil is that the diet can achieve a similar energy production balance to a normal diet, but can still deliver the necessary ketones. In the typical MCT diet, the proportions will be 35% fat, 35% MCT oil, 20% carbohydrate and 10% protein (a 2.3:1 ratio). Also, the total calorie intake is set at the normal level, rather than three quarters of normal, so the MCT diet is far less rigorous than the classical diet. There does not seem to be any very clear rationale for these variations from the classical diet, except the pragmatic one that it is claimed they work, although this claim is hotly disputed. For info about MCT oil and Coconut Oil you can join the Coconut-info group: coconut-info Best wishes, - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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