Re: B-5 / Choline up-date… or 61 going on 17 !!!!!!!!!!

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Hi, Did you manage to restore your sensitivity, if so to which degree?

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> B-5 / Choline up-date… or 61 going on 17

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> I hope that this info helps someone avoid the 10 years of sexual frustration

that I went through.

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> It has been a full month since I started taking B-5, Choline and Arginine ;

(See below) the results are so far off the charts that I have to wonder if this

can last. Today was an astounding day, my girl friend and I had sex three times;

after lunch I had an incredible orgasm, we then went for a bike ride and a swim

then had a second session where I had four more orgasms in about 30 minutes.

After a short nap we went to a rock concert but left early to go home and have

sex again, no orgasm but an enjoyable session never the less. The sex keeps

getting better and better. I was always very sexually active before the SSRIs

but I do not recall anything close to what I am experiencing now.

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> During the last 30 days we have had sex on twenty-five days, often more than

once a day. I reached an orgasm about every other day. The erections last for

10-30 minutes and are very firm.

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> We have been dating for 15 months, in the first 4 months I was unable to

achieve an erection. Using various sexual stimulants such as Ejaculoid, horny

goat weed, etc. in the months following I was able to reach orgasm about twice a

month, but the erections were not very satisfying and generally lasted for less

then a minute or two, there was not much feeling. I have not had libido issues

only a lack of erection and feeling.

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> I am 61 but I feel like a 17 year old sexually and the B vitamins have given

me an enormous amount of energy in general, I am getting a lot done, very much

like when I first took Zoloft. My brain is flooded with endorphins from all the

sex and it is hard for me to sort out which is the chicken and which is the egg

but I have never felt better in my life.

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> As Fred Flintstone used to say… YUBBA- DUBBA-DOOO !!!!!

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> AMP

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> My original post:

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> Feeling returned great sex experienced

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> I was formerly subscribed to this forum but have not read or followed it for

> several years but I have come across something that may be of interest. I

would

> welcome some of you to try this and see if you get the same result that I do.

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> I took Paxil and Zoloft from 1993-1996 and lost 95% of the feeling in my penis

> as a result. I was still able to have sex but I was doing it from memory,

there

> was very little sensation. I am now 60 and had just about given up the idea of

> ever having a normal sex life again. I was able to have an occasional weak

> erection about once or twice a month using a product called Ejaculoid but it

did

> not work every time I used it.

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> I recently found an article on an internet form after reading about how B-5,

> Choline and the amino acid L-Arginine are used in the treatment of Alcoholism

to

> restore the neural pathways in the book " 7 Weeks to Sobriety " , (see link

below).

> As an aside I do not consume alcohol on a regular basis. This got me to

thinking

> about my problem and why I have been unable to function normally and whether

my

> pathways were not functioning.

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> I have tried using Choline and B-5 in a 3 to one ratio, 1500mg Choline and

500mg

> B-5 30 minutes before sex with phenomenal results, I also take 500mg. of

> L-Arginine 3 times a day, total 1500 mg. The feeling that I thought was gone

> forever has return. The effect has actually worked overnight when morning sex

> was performed without any supplements. While I do not have an ejaculation

every

> time, I am not concerned as I think this is more a function of my age.

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> Bottom line, I now believe that this problem IS reversible and this may give

> some clues on what else can be done along this line.

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> AMP

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http://www.smartbodyz.com/Sex-Drive-support-l-arginine-choline-vitamin-B5-dl-phe\

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> nylalanine.htm

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> Sex Drive Support - L-Arginine, Choline, Vitamin B5 B-5, DL-Phenylalanine

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> L-Arginine

> In the 1990's, scientists discovered that l-arginine, a non-essential amino

acid

> commonly found in the diet, is an oxidative precursor of nitric oxide (NO).

> L-Arginine works to increase both the levels and activity of nitric oxide,

> leading to increased cGMP resulting in increased blood flow to the genitals.

> Researchers at New York University School of Medicine gave L-arginine to a

group

> of impotent men, and found that six out of 15 men receiving the amino acid

> claimed an improved ability, while none of the 15 men in the placebo group

> reported any benefits.

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> Choline and Vitamin B-5

> Sexual arousal occurs not just in the genitals but in the whole body and,

> especially, in the brain. For men, it actually begins when the brain sends

> impulses down the spinal cord and out to the nerves that serve the penis.

These

> impulses trigger the production of nitric oxide (NO), which causes penile

> arteries to dilate and the spongy core of the penis to relax and become

engorged

> with blood. The neurotransmitter that carries the sexual message is

> acetylcholine (ACh) which is important for women, too.

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> Numerous studies confirm a key role for cholinergic nerve transmission in

sexual

> responses. Simply speaking, with too little ACh, sex drive / sexual health can

> decline. Increase ACh levels, and sexual activity goes up. ACh is involved in

> the build-up toward orgasm and the urethral and vaginal contractions that

occur

> during orgasm as well as the subjective perception of orgasm intensity and

> duration.

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> In addition to its direct role in sex drive support, ACh is also the primary

> chemical the body uses to transmit signals from nerves to skeletal muscles,

the

> muscles that move the body. You need this chemical for muscular control and

> proper muscle tone. There is reason to believe that enhancing cholinergic

> neuromuscular transmission will enhance your energy and stamina by raising

your

> ACh levels and that this can provide indirect sexual benefits.

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> While drugs can enhance the body's cholinergic activity, these drugs not only

> have unpleasant or even dangerous side effects but are available only by

> prescription. One way to safely and effectively enhance ACh levels is to take

> supplements of choline / vitamin B5. Or, the full menu of Life Extension Mix

(a

> multi-vitamin/mineral formula) contains generous amounts of B5 and choline (as

> phosphatidylcholine). Another form of choline can be found in Cognitex under

> the name Glycerylphosphorylcholine (GPC).

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> Vitamin B5, also known as pantothenic acid or calcium pantothenate, appears to

> enhance endurance:

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> When a person is in a state of deficiency ... as most are who depend on food

for

> B5 and,

> Since an ample amount is needed for creating ACh from choline, it is paramount

> in its role in the energy-producing Krebs Cycle which is vital for all living

> cells.

> An early indication that vitamin B5 might enhance physical endurance came from

a

> study in which rats were placed into a tank filled with cool (64°F) water and

> forced to swim until they became exhausted. Prior to their swim, the rats'

> diets had included either high, adequate, or deficient levels of vitamin B-5.

> The high dose rats lasted more than four times as long as those whose diet had

> been B-5 deficient. In another experiment, pieces of frog muscle were

> stimulated electrically to make them twitch. The stimulation continued until

> the muscle became exhausted. Muscle tissue that was bathed in vitamin B-5 had

> double the work output as the control muscle. [Ralli, 1953].

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> Dosage and Timing

> Experienced users recommend taking choline plus vitamin B5 (or B-5 by itself)

> about 20 to 30 minutes before sex in order to get the full effect right from

the

> start. But, notes one user, " Don't worry if you start too soon, it'll kick in

> as you're going. " He adds, " Not everybody will notice it, but if you set a

> clock, you'll notice that you have the energy to go longer. Pretty much

> everyone I've told about B-5 has experienced that effect. "

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> Combinations that many people have found effective include three times as much

> choline as B-5 (for example, 500-1,000 mg of B-5 in combination with

1,500-3,000

> mg of choline). It is probably wise to begin with lower doses in this same

> ratio, and gradually increase the dose as tolerated.

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> DL-Phenylalanine

> Several lines of evidence link activity of the neurotransmitter dopamine in

the

> brain with sexual behavior. Generally, it appears that higher levels of

> dopamine are associated with more sexual interest and vice versa. Increased

> brain dopamine activity caused by taking the drug L-dopa is believed to be the

> cause of a " hypersexuality " syndrome in people who take the drug for

Parkinson's

> disease.

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> L-dopa is a chemical precursor of dopamine (which in turn, is a precursor of

> norepinephrine). In other words, the body uses L-dopa to make dopamine. L-dopa

> is available only by prescription but you can also increase your brain

dopamine

> levels by taking the non-prescription amino acids that the body uses to make

> L-dopa -- tyrosine and/or phenylalanine. L-Theanine, an extract from green tea

> also is a dopamine enhancer to consider.

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> People who have lost interest in sex because they are depressed may benefit

from

> taking doses of 100 to 500 milligrams of DL-phenylalanine. Supplements of

> vitamin B-6, vitamin C, folic acid and copper, may help maximize the

conversion

> of L-dopa to dopamine.

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