Guest guest Posted January 3, 1980 Report Share Posted January 3, 1980 Henriette said : " What's happening is, he eats something fatty, his stomach adds acids, his pancreas adds enzymes, but the base (for making proper soap) is missing so this fatty food is left in big globules. Too big to be .. " Surely the bile is still present but not as concentrated as if it had been in the gall bladder , rather than being missing altogether ? Annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 KrystynaKrzyzak wrote: > >Most of my gall bladder (as in removed) clients swear by Berberis > >(or Mahonia) tincture, 20-30 minutes before meals. > > What sort of dose? I do 1:2 95 % (fresh root) or 1:5 50 % (dried root); at those strengths it's 20-30 drops 1-3 x /day, before meals. > >If he's had diarrhoea for years you also need to calm the gut; > >mallow tea, calendula or plantago, and something astringent - > >perhaps raspberry leaf. And lots of lactobacilli. > > Do you find that they have to follow any particular dietary restrictions? > I assume low fat, but are there other things that you've found either > aggravate or improve the condition? He'd need to do without overmuch fats (and possibly proteins and strong spices too) until his gut has calmed down; give it a month or three, with diet and gut soothing teas. After that he can slowly go back to his old diet, always using the berberis (other bitters might work as well) before each meal; but adjusting his diet if the problems come back. What's happening is, he eats something fatty, his stomach adds acids, his pancreas adds enzymes, but the base (for making proper soap) is missing so this fatty food is left in big globules. Too big to be properly absorbed in the small intestine. Whoa, now you have fat in the colon, where it doesn't belong at all. So you have a population explosion of fat-eating bacteria in the colon. Next you see lymphocytes coming in, trying to get rid of the unwelcome guests, and as lymphycytes are big they perforate the gut walls, meaning you have local inflammation (and more likely than not, portal vein congestion - too much gunk for the liver to handle comfortably). An additional defense mechanism is diarrhoea. He's also extremely likely to have deficits (rather severe, after years of gut troubles) of any number of vitamins and minerals, because most absorption points for those are in the last foot or so of the small intestine, and that particular bit is 1) very busy trying to catch the fat as it goes past, and 2) inflamed because of a lot of lymphocytes in the general vicinity. Good luck! Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Hi Henriette, Many thanks for this. On a related note, how do your cholesystectomised patients take their lactobacilli? Fermented foods - yoghurt, kefir (unobtainable where I live), sauerkraut, fermented rye bread - or pills. I've always been dubious about encapsulating a selected amount of bacteria, and having tasted Yakult (sweetened gum) and read the list of ingredients (including sugar and gum), don't feel inclined to succumb to the marketing. All the best, Krystyna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 KrystynaKrzyzak wrote: > Many thanks for this. On a related note, how do your cholesystectomised > patients take their lactobacilli? Fermented foods - yoghurt, kefir > (unobtainable where I live), sauerkraut, fermented rye bread - or pills. Depends. Some do sourmilk, some do pills. Pills are certainly easier if you want to keep up a regime of 3x/day ... again, this is to get the gut back on track and can be stopped when things have calmed down. Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Annette Wass wrote: > Henriette said: >> What's happening is, he eats something fatty, his >> stomach adds acids, his pancreas adds enzymes, but the base (for making >> proper soap) is missing so this fatty food is left in big globules. Too >> big to be .. " > > Surely the bile is still present but not as concentrated as if it had > been in the gall bladder, rather than being missing altogether ? Yes - but the bile is dribbling out pretty much as it forms, not squirted all at once when and as needed. I'm not sure how bitters (like berberis) change this, but they do. Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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