Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Yes, Beth and Jane, we have to grow our own food, be our own doctors, and so much more. It's too much. I grew up on a small farm and I so wish I had one today. Take care. Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hi Elaine, They treated you well when you were on sick leave, this shows in your post. Very honest plea for a better food distribution system I felt. You know we have to trust in God with what we do not know, and we have to do on our own with what we do know. It is alway a balancing act in life, trying to get through the middle without tipping to one side or the other. Too much money spent in places leaves me broke, and too much dependence on refined foods leave me sick untill I learn what it was that made me sick. We appear to be searching for the truth in all our endeavors, and those who honestly think they are doing good shall enter the Kingdom of God as easily as those who are doing the right things. Then Jesus will ask us to forgive those who knew their endeavors were wrong and continued to be wrong knowing the consequences of the wrongful doings. I guess what I am trying to say is " were all in the same boat on this earth " . We can't be in the now without a body and if the body has rotten to the point that it does not work then it won't support life as we know it. And lastly, Jesus will remind some about what others know, That this life is finite and will come to and end but that, the Kingdom of God lasts for ever. Forgiveness is essentially what we are going to be asked to do as we are forgiven for what we did. Bets regards, from Bill > > Last night I watched a show about fish-farming and aquafarming. It's > pretty bad, not only for the fish and those who eat them but for the > environment as well. I had already known some of the problems with > fish-farming but I was surprised that a dye is put into the farmed > salmon because it's not as red as wild salmon. It's like the food > industry wants to poison us in so many ways. > > Just a few minutes ago there was news segment about things like > putting " refined bones " into sugar. Their point was that this sugar > isn't vegetarian but what the heck are bones doing in sugar. i don't > want to eat bones in my sugar. I only want sugar. > > We learned ugly things during the mad cow crisis, like the fact that > they feed cows to other cows. Why is that? Sounds really horrible. > > Earlier we talked about growth hormones in our food and other > undesirable things. Some people feel places like Whole Foods, that > hopefully doesn't take part in any of this (do we really know? And > despite their best efforts, could some of this food be sold to them > unknowingly?) is the answer. I was just in Whole Foods. Wild salmon > is $20 - $26 a pound. It's an expensive place and many people just > don't have the money. It's not an option for them. Whole Foods can > only be a solution if one only eats food they cook at home. What > about when you eat at restaurants and friends' homes? Your children's > school lunch? The snack you pick up when you buy gas, etc. > > There's so much more to it. There's the environment and overfishing. > I tell you this because I once knew none of this and there are likely > many people out there who haven't either. I feel that the only way > this will change is if we all demand the change. Each of us can bring > about change, one item, one battle at a time. None of what any of us > do is too small to be useful. It seems overwhelming but together, we > can make change. I hope you will all think about this. > > Thank you, thank you. > > Elaine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Thanks for your message, Bill. Something to think about for sure. The thing is, the more we are aware of what's going on, the better we can make choices and the more likely we are able to make changes so that our earth and food supply stays healthy. I wasn't just complaining, I was hoping to inform people and hopefully encourage them to make changes for the better. Elaine > Hi Elaine, > They treated you well when you were on sick leave, this shows in > your post. Very honest plea for a better food distribution system I > felt. You know we have to trust in God with what we do not know, and > we have to do on our own with what we do know. It is alway a > balancing act in life, trying to get through the middle without > tipping to one side or the other. Too much money spent in places > leaves me broke, and too much dependence on refined foods leave me > sick untill I learn what it was that made me sick. > > We appear to be searching for the truth in all our endeavors, and > those who honestly think they are doing good shall enter the Kingdom > of God as easily as those who are doing the right things. > > Then Jesus will ask us to forgive those who knew their endeavors > were wrong and continued to be wrong knowing the consequences of the > wrongful doings. > > I guess what I am trying to say is " were all in the same boat on > this earth " . > > We can't be in the now without a body and if the body has rotten to > the point that it does not work then it won't support life as we > know it. > > And lastly, Jesus will remind some about what others know, That this > life is finite and will come to and end but that, the Kingdom of God > lasts for ever. > > Forgiveness is essentially what we are going to be asked to do as we > are forgiven for what we did. > > Bets regards, from Bill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Obviously we can't each grow our own food supply, and if we tried we'd probably find the soil we were growing it in was contaminated. Just doing the best we can doesn't seem good enough, does it? Well, this is coming out like more doom and gloom. Does anyone have any positive suggestions? a I live inside the city of , MS. I have managed to have a small garden. Primarily I use grass clippings for mulch and it decays to add nutrients to the soil. I also compost all vegetable scraps. I use no chemicals on my lawn or garden. I also try to purchase certified organic produce. As you, I have just about given up on eating animal products and dairy. In my little garden, this year I am raising sweet corn, crowder peas, okra, tomatoes, bell peppers, sweet banana peppers, habanero peppers, squash, watermelons, onions and red potatoes. I already have several tennis ball size tomatoes. I process most of my vegetables with a Vita-mix processor. Happy day is wished for Y'all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Don't think about it, do the best you can, and move ahead! lolol Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 There certainly does seems to be a weekly horror story about our food supply. We do need to be informed about what's going on with our food, but it's tough. Jane's comment that if we knew everything about our food supply we wouldn't eat anything is, sadly, true. Just reading the weekly newsletter from the Humane Society is enough to make the vegan lifestyle a lot more attractive!! I'm not disciplined enough to be a vegan, but I find I consume fewer and fewer animal products as time goes by. About the only things I can eat these days guilt free is a banana, and I'm sure if I knew how the banana workers are exploited I'd get the yips about bananas, too! Obviously we can't each grow our own food supply, and if we tried we'd probably find the soil we were growing it in was contaminated. Just doing the best we can doesn't seem good enough, does it? Well, this is coming out like more doom and gloom. Does anyone have any positive suggestions? karena > The thing is, the more we are aware of what's going on, the better we > can make choices and the more likely we are able to make changes so > that our earth and food supply stays healthy. > > I wasn't just complaining, I was hoping to inform people and hopefully > encourage them to make changes for the better. > > Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 a... I believe yard gardens to supplement your vegetables is an answer. You can plant lettuce, cabbage, onions, potatoes, carrots in the fall and winter...and of course, tomatoes, corn, squash, eggplant, okra...and much more in the spring/summer. I am growing totally organic - no pesticides or chemicals...I have noticed when a plant gets bugs on it...they eat that plant to the bone...and I consider it a sacrifice to the rest of the garden...they usually stay on one plant...I try to remember that catterpillars will be butterflies...and they are useful...they eat a lot for a short time...then they cocoon so it's only a short time that they are destructive...If I find one I pick him up and move him to another place in the yard. Anyway...fruit trees, gardens...to supplement your food supply would help. However I have 10 chickens, 3 guinea hens, and 3 peacocks...and they are insect eaters...they comb the garden for insects constantly...so I don't have many problems...If you can attract birds to your garden they will help keep down the insects...Mockingbirds are insect eaters...if you see them that's a good sign. Beth karena4823 wrote: There certainly does seems to be a weekly horror story about our food supply. We do need to be informed about what's going on with our food, but it's tough. Jane's comment that if we knew everything about our food supply we wouldn't eat anything is, sadly, true. Just reading the weekly newsletter from the Humane Society is enough to make the vegan lifestyle a lot more attractive!! I'm not disciplined enough to be a vegan, but I find I consume fewer and fewer animal products as time goes by. About the only things I can eat these days guilt free is a banana, and I'm sure if I knew how the banana workers are exploited I'd get the yips about bananas, too! Obviously we can't each grow our own food supply, and if we tried we'd probably find the soil we were growing it in was contaminated. Just doing the best we can doesn't seem good enough, does it? Well, this is coming out like more doom and gloom. Does anyone have any positive suggestions?karena> The thing is, the more we are aware of what's going on, the better we> can make choices and the more likely we are able to make changes so> that our earth and food supply stays healthy.> > I wasn't just complaining, I was hoping to inform people and hopefully> encourage them to make changes for the better.> > Elaine How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 D, Your " little " garden sounds great; I wish I had your energy! Good to hear from B. also. Glad to hear you are on a new trail. a In my little garden, > this year I am raising sweet corn, crowder peas, okra, tomatoes, bell > peppers, sweet banana peppers, habanero peppers, squash, watermelons, onions and > red potatoes. I already have several tennis ball size tomatoes. I process most > of my vegetables with a Vita-mix processor. > Happy day is wished for Y'all > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Jane, I think you've got it right. Good day to all - karena > > Don't think about it, do the best you can, and move ahead! lolol > Jane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Becca plants a big pot or two of parsley just for the Eastern Swallowtail butterflies. There will be none, and then suddenly, one day there will be several caterpillars on the parsley at once, eating away. They seem to last exactly as long as it takes to eat all of the parsley, then make their coccoons. Later, when we see a beautiful butterfly, Becca will wonder if that one is "hers". We are not so kind to the tomato caterpillars. When we lived in Vicksburg, we had ducks that would follow us through the tomato patch waiting for us to pluck the tomato caterpillars and throw them to where they could gobble them up. W. Re: Re: our food a... I believe yard gardens to supplement your vegetables is an answer. You can plant lettuce, cabbage, onions, potatoes, carrots in the fall and winter...and of course, tomatoes, corn, squash, eggplant, okra...and much more in the spring/summer. I am growing totally organic - no pesticides or chemicals...I have noticed when a plant gets bugs on it...they eat that plant to the bone...and I consider it a sacrifice to the rest of the garden...they usually stay on one plant...I try to remember that catterpillars will be butterflies...and they are useful...they eat a lot for a short time...then they cocoon so it's only a short time that they are destructive...If I find one I pick him up and move him to another place in the yard. Anyway...fruit trees, gardens...to supplement your food supply would help. However I have 10 chickens, 3 guinea hens, and 3 peacocks...and they are insect eaters...they comb the garden for insects constantly...so I don't have many problems...If you can attract birds to your garden they will help keep down the insects...Mockingbirds are insect eaters...if you see them that's a good sign. Beth karena4823 wrote: There certainly does seems to be a weekly horror story about our food supply. We do need to be informed about what's going on with our food, but it's tough. Jane's comment that if we knew everything about our food supply we wouldn't eat anything is, sadly, true. Just reading the weekly newsletter from the Humane Society is enough to make the vegan lifestyle a lot more attractive!! I'm not disciplined enough to be a vegan, but I find I consume fewer and fewer animal products as time goes by. About the only things I can eat these days guilt free is a banana, and I'm sure if I knew how the banana workers are exploited I'd get the yips about bananas, too! Obviously we can't each grow our own food supply, and if we tried we'd probably find the soil we were growing it in was contaminated. Just doing the best we can doesn't seem good enough, does it? Well, this is coming out like more doom and gloom. Does anyone have any positive suggestions?karena> The thing is, the more we are aware of what's going on, the better we> can make choices and the more likely we are able to make changes so> that our earth and food supply stays healthy.> > I wasn't just complaining, I was hoping to inform people and hopefully> encourage them to make changes for the better.> > Elaine How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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