Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 , My son did a 6 week trial of Mb12 shots this summer. We have been doing supps/diet etc for years and so he is normally in fine humor. The first 4 shots made him irritable, argumentative, explosive, etc. I stuck it out because that's what the DAN doc recommended. Eventually, he was back to his old self, but after the 6 week trial, I had to say that I saw no changes whatsoever in him due to the shots. a H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 You didn't say how old your son is but ours is almost 13 and morning routine is the worst part of our day. We saw increased negativism and resistence and anger with MB!12 and pulled him back to every 3rd day for a while and that helped. Ann Behaviors related to supps? This morning was the worst - my son wouldn't leave his bedroom, he wouldn't go potty, he did eat breakfast, but it's getting to the point that he won't leave any lights on in the kitchen when he eats. After breakfast, he struggled mightily against getting dressed - it took both me and my husband 10 or 15 minutes to get him into his clothes. The whole experience ended with DH lying on the floor hugging my crying son and that's how I left for work. The most recent additions to his supps are mB12 injections, glutathione cream, and CLO. He gets Brainchild Ultrasensitive formula, custom amino acids, Vitamin E and 1 mg. of Prozac daily (which is the only thing that has had what I would call obvious positive response). Epsom salts baths every night (have never seen any effects one way or the other). He gets Houston enzymes (AFP Pep, ZP and NF with each meal)- when he started these in February, his stools became normal. Low refined sugar diet. This difficulty with the morning routine gets worse by the day but it is the same routine that we have always followed, allowing lots of time to transition from one thing to another - it takes a full hour and a half from wake-up to leaving the house with him. We aren't seeing the positives that I hear come with mB12 and glutathione - his eye contact is already good, he's verbal but mostly echolalic and scripted, and his normally easy going and sunny disposition is still predominant but we're seeing lots more resistance, frustration, and uncooperativeness. Any suggestions? Thanks, - Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Are you doing anything different the night before? We tried melatonin to help our daughter sleep. We even tried Benadryl, too. I noticed that every time we would give her something like that at night - the next day was TERRIBLE. We struggle a little at night at bedtime, but the days are much better. We also give the MB12 injections at night after she falls asleep. We noticed a couple of times that she was hyper the next morning, but we've kept with the schedule and now she's fine. Each child id so different. I hope you figure out something soon. Shari Behaviors related to supps? This morning was the worst - my son wouldn't leave his bedroom, he wouldn't go potty, he did eat breakfast, but it's getting to the point that he won't leave any lights on in the kitchen when he eats. After breakfast, he struggled mightily against getting dressed - it took both me and my husband 10 or 15 minutes to get him into his clothes. The whole experience ended with DH lying on the floor hugging my crying son and that's how I left for work. The most recent additions to his supps are mB12 injections, glutathione cream, and CLO. He gets Brainchild Ultrasensitive formula, custom amino acids, Vitamin E and 1 mg. of Prozac daily (which is the only thing that has had what I would call obvious positive response). Epsom salts baths every night (have never seen any effects one way or the other). He gets Houston enzymes (AFP Pep, ZP and NF with each meal)- when he started these in February, his stools became normal. Low refined sugar diet. This difficulty with the morning routine gets worse by the day but it is the same routine that we have always followed, allowing lots of time to transition from one thing to another - it takes a full hour and a half from wake-up to leaving the house with him. We aren't seeing the positives that I hear come with mB12 and glutathione - his eye contact is already good, he's verbal but mostly echolalic and scripted, and his normally easy going and sunny disposition is still predominant but we're seeing lots more resistance, frustration, and uncooperativeness. Any suggestions? Thanks, - Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Thanks for all the responses. My son is 4, was diagnosed a year ago, started GFCF and Prozac in November of last year, started enzymes in February, and had extensive testing and consult with McCandless in April, and since then we've been doing a variety of supplements. He is sometimes a little revved up at bedtime, but gets to sleep and sleeps really well - we are very lucky. Most mornings we have to wake him up - he would probably sleep at least another half hour if left alone, so that may be part of it. We're only doing the mB12 injections twice a week. Perhaps he needs even less? On the whole, his disposition is still very sweet most of the time - right now transitions are more of an issue than usual. I know you all know how I feel - it's hard to watch your child struggle. I ordered Cal Mag from Ecological formulas but haven't given it yet, because I'm not sure of the dose for my son - perhaps that might be calming? > Are you doing anything different the night before? We tried melatonin to help our daughter sleep. We even tried Benadryl, too. I noticed that every time we would give her something like that at night - the next day was TERRIBLE. We struggle a little at night at bedtime, but the days are much better. We also give the MB12 injections at night after she falls asleep. We noticed a couple of times that she was hyper the next morning, but we've kept with the schedule and now she's fine. Each child id so different. I hope you figure out something soon. > Shari > Behaviors related to supps? > > > > This morning was the worst - my son wouldn't leave his bedroom, he > wouldn't go potty, he did eat breakfast, but it's getting to the > point that he won't leave any lights on in the kitchen when he eats. > After breakfast, he struggled mightily against getting dressed - it > took both me and my husband 10 or 15 minutes to get him into his > clothes. The whole experience ended with DH lying on the floor > hugging my crying son and that's how I left for work. > > The most recent additions to his supps are mB12 injections, > glutathione cream, and CLO. He gets Brainchild Ultrasensitive > formula, custom amino acids, Vitamin E and 1 mg. of Prozac daily > (which is the only thing that has had what I would call obvious > positive response). Epsom salts baths every night (have never seen > any effects one way or the other). He gets Houston enzymes (AFP Pep, > ZP and NF with each meal)- when he started these in February, his > stools became normal. Low refined sugar diet. > > This difficulty with the morning routine gets worse by the day but it > is the same routine that we have always followed, allowing lots of > time to transition from one thing to another - it takes a full hour > and a half from wake-up to leaving the house with him. > > We aren't seeing the positives that I hear come with mB12 and > glutathione - his eye contact is already good, he's verbal but mostly > echolalic and scripted, and his normally easy going and sunny > disposition is still predominant but we're seeing lots more > resistance, frustration, and uncooperativeness. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, - > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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