Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I wanted to express how tranformative I found it to read the transcript of the cybermacro chat that t conducted a few days ago. I had intended to be ther elive but when 4am struck Australian time, the hour got rhe better of me! It sounded like it went very well. It was a great turnout. I also wanted to acknowledge for hosting it and organizing it and Klara for her enthusiam and efforts to make sure everyone knew about it. And I want to let t know how much her openess and willingess to share impacted on my understanding. It gave me a lot of cause for reflection. I had considered writing these reflections to the people involved privately but felt that in the spirit of the realisations that were mentioned that I may try to express them here. The issues of non resistance that you mentioned in the outline of your experience, t is something I grapple with a lot. I have been immersed in the field of transformative practises since my teens as I attmepted to hea and dabbled in many avenues in my attempts to heal juvenile diabetes for many years. I have learnt a great deal and realised a lot but I now feel that at the core of the inability to truly transform this condition - so far - is some deep resistance. I would welcome further discussion on this issue as I feel it is at the core of much lack of peace and separation throughout existence. I also found that a great deal of judgement cropped up in my awareness of how healing should look and your reports of the treatment that you included - including the medical avenues highlighted that for me. Although I have always advocated that whatever treatment the individual chooses is okay - I did find that when it came to it that I had judgments and questions about why this option wasused. I guess it reflects my own resistance to allowing healing to occur in any manner and that I still want to control how healing will look or happen. I loved the way that you conducted the caht and created a space for exploration. I found the discussion of daying YES! to everything very topical. One of the most amazing yet confrontational healing and consciousness fields I have been involved in....a very embracing and peaceful one but one that terrifies me on some level because I know it cuts to the very core of existence if one lets it and I am having trouble letting it....anyway - the Ishaya's Ascension. Which on the surface appears to be a meditation technique which is part of it however it also encompasses an understanding of how to achieve full human consciousness which seems to be our very birthright but which we run from. Far from being a fluffy new age belief system, its very nature seems to be the dissolution of beliefs. www.ishaya.org www.theishayatradition.org some books by MSI - First Thunder Ascension Enlightenment all quite spectacular. the reason I mention it here is that the idea of ebing able to say YES to everything was once mentioned by the modern day founder of it in the West - MSI - Maharishi Sadashiva Ishvaram (I hope I got his name right there. I believe he said that if one could say yes to everything - EVERYTHING for a week then one would be free.... He also asked - "where in your Life are you compromising?" So I am left ponderng - how does one say YES to everything? what do you do when you get to a place in yourself/become aware of a place where you cannot say yes but want to? how does one surreneder EVERYTHING to the he Creator? thanks for playing with me in exploration and awareness xoxoxo Ilanit Tof - Signature Ilanit Ms Ilanit Tof B.A. (Psychophysiology/Psychology) Advanced Diploma Healing with Wholefoods PhD Holistic Nutrition (candidate) Little Tree Oriental Healing Arts Helping you grow to new heights of wellbeing with Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition ilanit@... www.littletree.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 -Thanks Ilanit for sharing all that. I need to find the time to read the transcript. Wonder when that will be tho About saying YES I would love to have some mini person (not seen to the public) walk around with me and have an electrode attached somewhere so when I start debating over stupid crap they zap me so it will be an automatic response to just not argue and say yes. Wouldn't that be cool? I have a friend who wasn't able to get along with her mother and she's 51. I saw her on Sunday after her latest visit with mom. I asked how it went, she said fine no fights? nope. She then told me she's learned the power of saying YES. To EVERYTHING? Yes, or OK, FINE something like that. I was amazed. I need to do this too! MQ -- In VeganMacrobiotics , Ilanit Tof <ilanit@l...> wrote: > > > I wanted to express how tranformative I found it to read the transcript > of the cybermacro chat that t conducted a few days ago. I had > intended to be ther elive but when 4am struck Australian time, the hour > got rhe better of me! > > It sounded like it went very well. > > It was a great turnout. I also wanted to acknowledge for hosting it > and organizing it and Klara for her enthusiam and efforts to make sure > everyone knew about it. And I want to let t know how much her > openess and willingess to share impacted on my understanding. > > It gave me a lot of cause for reflection. I had considered writing these > reflections to the people involved privately but felt that in the spirit > of the realisations that were mentioned that I may try to express them here. > > The issues of non resistance that you mentioned in the outline of your > experience, t is something I grapple with a lot. I have been > immersed in the field of transformative practises since my teens as I > attmepted to hea and dabbled in many avenues in my attempts to heal > juvenile diabetes for many years. I have learnt a great deal and > realised a lot but I now feel that at the core of the inability to truly > transform this condition - so far - is some deep resistance. I would > welcome further discussion on this issue as I feel it is at the core of > much lack of peace and separation throughout existence. > > I also found that a great deal of judgement cropped up in my awareness > of how healing should look and your reports of the treatment that you > included - including the medical avenues highlighted that for me. > Although I have always advocated that whatever treatment the individual > chooses is okay - I did find that when it came to it that I had > judgments and questions about why this option wasused. I guess it > reflects my own resistance to allowing healing to occur in any manner > and that I still want to control how healing will look or happen. > > I loved the way that you conducted the caht and created a space for > exploration. > > I found the discussion of daying YES! to everything very topical. > > One of the most amazing yet confrontational healing and consciousness > fields I have been involved in....a very embracing and peaceful one but > one that terrifies me on some level because I know it cuts to the very > core of existence if one lets it and I am having trouble letting > it....anyway - the Ishaya's Ascension. Which on the surface appears to > be a meditation technique which is part of it however it also > encompasses an understanding of how to achieve full human consciousness > which seems to be our very birthright but which we run from. > Far from being a fluffy new age belief system, its very nature seems to > be the dissolution of beliefs. > > www.ishaya.org > www.theishayatradition.org > > > some books by MSI - First Thunder > Ascension > Enlightenment > > all quite spectacular. > > the reason I mention it here is that the idea of ebing able to say YES > to everything was once mentioned by the modern day founder of it in the > West - MSI - Maharishi Sadashiva Ishvaram (I hope I got his name right > there. > I believe he said that if one could say yes to everything - EVERYTHING > for a week then one would be free.... > > He also asked - " where in your Life are you compromising? " > > > So I am left ponderng - > > how does one say YES to everything? > > what do you do when you get to a place in yourself/become aware of a > place where you cannot say yes but want to? > > how does one surreneder EVERYTHING to the he Creator? > > thanks for playing with me in exploration and awareness > > > xoxoxo > > Ilanit > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > > Little Tree Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia (Little Tree). ® > registered trademark, © copyright 2003. All rights reserved. This email > message and attachments may contain information that is confidential to > Little Tree. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, > distribute, forward or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, > please notify the sender by return email and erase all copies of the > message and attachments. 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