Re: Brain Inflammation-systemic enzymes

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Systemic enzymes are enzymes that when consumed are absorbed into the blood circulation and travel around doing all kinds of good stuff like devouring foreign proteins like dead bacteria, neutralizing toxins, safely reducing inflammation, modulating the immune system, clearing arterial plaque, thinning the blood, busting open cysts, etc... Us lymies have a million reasons why we should be taking them.

There are many different kinds.

Nattokinase...always improves circulation in my brain but also causes a flareup as it seems to break open the cysts there.

Serrapeptase..derived from silk worms, another good systemic enzyme

Lumbrokinase...derived from earth worms. I have noticed the biggest flareups after taking this one, from my experience seems to be the best cyst buster. Pretty expensive though.

Wobenzym..is the brand of systemic enzyme I use the most. It has a variety of different enzymes in it. I notice the best detox reactions from this one and take it first thing in the morning to clear my head. After taking this one I feel better than any other time of the day.

They're all pretty expensive though, which is a bummer.

Dr. Will Wong ND PHD says that all systemic enzymes have a feedback system that prevents them from thinning the blood too much except Nattokinase, so be careful with this one if using other blood thinners like high doses of omega 3's, heperin, garlic, coumaden,etc..

All the enzymes except Serrapeptase need to be taken on an empty stomach because if they encounter food they digest it and never make it to the blood stream. If taken on an empty stomach they pass through the stomach into the small intestine where they are absorbed into the blood and do their magic.

Hope that helps.

Thane

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 4:49:46 PMSubject: Re: Brain Inflammation

Thane,I've seen this mentioned before. What are systemic enzymes and where can i find them? How does ASG help brain inflammation?Thanks

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Systemic enzymes and a little alka seltzer gold help mine. But i still suffer from a lot of it, it can be stubborn.

From: wildman350smom <carolbenter (DOT) net>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:24:40 PMSubject: Brain Inflammation

hi guys... just got back from my weekly doctor apptshe says i have brain inflammation today :(what were you guys talking about for that?she did give me something ... but just curious whatyou guys thought...carol

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Thane,You gave a really good explanation about the enzymes. Thanks Joyce

Systemic enzymes and a little alka seltzer gold help mine. But i still suffer from a lot of it, it can be stubborn.

From: wildman350smom <carolbenter (DOT) net>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:24:40 PMSubject: Brain Inflammation

hi guys... just got back from my weekly doctor apptshe says i have brain inflammation today :(what were you guys talking about for that?she did give me something ... but just curious whatyou guys thought...carol

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Hey Thane,Thanks for the comprehensive run-down of these enzymes! I'm much more motivated to spend the money on them, now that you've explained just what they do. Glad they help you! Be well,Léna , Systemic enzymes are enzymes that when consumed are absorbed into the blood circulation and travel around doing all kinds of good stuff like devouring foreign proteins like dead bacteria, neutralizing toxins, safely reducing inflammation, modulating the immune system, clearing arterial plaque, thinning the blood, busting open cysts, etc... Us lymies have a million reasons why we should be taking them. There are many different kinds. Nattokinase...always improves circulation in my brain but also causes a flareup as it seems to break open the cysts there. Serrapeptase..derived from silk worms, another good systemic enzyme Lumbrokinase...derived from earth worms. I have noticed the biggest flareups after taking this one, from my experience seems to be the best cyst buster. Pretty expensive though. Wobenzym..is the brand of systemic enzyme I use the most. It has a variety of different enzymes in it. I notice the best detox reactions from this one and take it first thing in the morning to clear my head. After taking this one I feel better than any other time of the day. They're all pretty expensive though, which is a bummer. Dr. Will Wong ND PHD says that all systemic enzymes have a feedback system that prevents them from thinning the blood too much except Nattokinase, so be careful with this one if using other blood thinners like high doses of omega 3's, heperin, garlic, coumaden,etc.. All the enzymes except Serrapeptase need to be taken on an empty stomach because if they encounter food they digest it and never make it to the blood stream. If taken on an empty stomach they pass through the stomach into the small intestine where they are absorbed into the blood and do their magic. Hope that helps. Thane From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail>To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 4:49:46 PMSubject: Re: Brain Inflammation Thane,I've seen this mentioned before. What are systemic enzymes and where can i find them? How does ASG help brain inflammation?Thanks On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Systemic enzymes and a little alka seltzer gold help mine. But i still suffer from a lot of it, it can be stubborn. From: wildman350smom <carolbenter (DOT) net>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:24:40 PMSubject: Brain Inflammation hi guys... just got back from my weekly doctor apptshe says i have brain inflammation today :(what were you guys talking about for that?she did give me something ... but just curious whatyou guys thought...carol

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Thane,thank you. It is much easier to understand after you explanation of the what and why for enzymes.

 

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Systemic enzymes are enzymes that when consumed are absorbed into the blood circulation and travel around doing all kinds of good stuff like devouring foreign proteins like dead bacteria, neutralizing toxins, safely reducing inflammation, modulating the immune system, clearing arterial plaque, thinning the blood, busting open cysts, etc... Us lymies have a million reasons why we should be taking them. 

 

There are many different kinds. 

 

Nattokinase...always improves circulation in my brain but also causes a flareup as it seems to break open the cysts there.

 

 

Serrapeptase..derived from silk worms, another good systemic enzyme

 

Lumbrokinase...derived from earth worms. I have noticed the biggest flareups after taking this one, from my experience seems to be the best cyst buster.  Pretty expensive though. 

 

Wobenzym..is the brand of systemic enzyme I use the most.  It has a variety of different enzymes in it.  I notice the best detox reactions from this one and take it first thing in the morning to clear my head.  After taking this one I feel better than any other time of the day. 

 

They're all pretty expensive though, which is a bummer. 

Dr. Will Wong ND PHD says that all systemic enzymes have a feedback system that prevents them from thinning the blood too much except Nattokinase, so be careful with this one if using other blood thinners like high doses of omega 3's, heperin, garlic, coumaden,etc..

 

All the enzymes except Serrapeptase need to be taken on an empty stomach because if they encounter food they digest it and never make it to the blood stream.  If taken on an empty stomach they pass through the stomach into the small intestine where they are absorbed into the blood and do their magic.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Thane

To: Lyme_and_Rife

Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 4:49:46 PMSubject: Re: Brain Inflammation 

Thane,I've seen this mentioned before. What are systemic enzymes and where can i find them? How does ASG help brain inflammation?Thanks

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Systemic enzymes and a little alka seltzer gold help mine.  But i still suffer from a lot of it, it can be stubborn.

From: wildman350smom <carolbenter (DOT) net>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:24:40 PMSubject: Brain Inflammation

 

hi guys... just got back from my weekly doctor apptshe says i have brain inflammation today :(what were you guys talking about for that?she did give me something ... but just curious whatyou guys thought...

carol

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thanks Thane, this helped me tooHope your doing better,To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 11:24:59 PMSubject: Re: Brain Inflammation-systemic enzymes

Thane,thank you. It is much easier to understand after you explanation of the what and why for enzymes.On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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Systemic enzymes are enzymes that when consumed are absorbed into the blood circulation and travel around doing all kinds of good stuff like devouring foreign proteins like dead bacteria, neutralizing toxins, safely reducing inflammation, modulating the immune system, clearing arterial plaque, thinning the blood, busting open cysts, etc... Us lymies have a million reasons why we should be taking them.

There are many different kinds.

Nattokinase. ..always improves circulation in my brain but also causes a flareup as it seems to break open the cysts there.

Serrapeptase. .derived from silk worms, another good systemic enzyme

Lumbrokinase. ..derived from earth worms. I have noticed the biggest flareups after taking this one, from my experience seems to be the best cyst buster. Pretty expensive though.

Wobenzym..is the brand of systemic enzyme I use the most. It has a variety of different enzymes in it. I notice the best detox reactions from this one and take it first thing in the morning to clear my head. After taking this one I feel better than any other time of the day.

They're all pretty expensive though, which is a bummer..

Dr. Will Wong ND PHD says that all systemic enzymes have a feedback system that prevents them from thinning the blood too much except Nattokinase, so be careful with this one if using other blood thinners like high doses of omega 3's, heperin, garlic, coumaden,etc. .

All the enzymes except Serrapeptase need to be taken on an empty stomach because if they encounter food they digest it and never make it to the blood stream. If taken on an empty stomach they pass through the stomach into the small intestine where they are absorbed into the blood and do their magic.

Hope that helps.

Thane

From: Rappaport <stacy07470gmail (DOT) com>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 4:49:46 PMSubject: Re: Brain Inflammation

Thane,I've seen this mentioned before. What are systemic enzymes and where can i find them? How does ASG help brain inflammation?Thanks

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Thane Fredrickson <thane17yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Systemic enzymes and a little alka seltzer gold help mine. But i still suffer from a lot of it, it can be stubborn.

From: wildman350smom <carolbenter (DOT) net>To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:24:40 PMSubject: Brain Inflammation

hi guys... just got back from my weekly doctor apptshe says i have brain inflammation today :(what were you guys talking about for that?she did give me something .... but just curious whatyou guys thought...

carol

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Thane

I was wondering if you could please tell me why you say that Serrapeptase does

not need to be taken on an empty stomach like other systemic enzymes?

I have been taking serrapeptase for over a year and I have been under the

impression that serrapeptase is just like other systemic enzymes in that if

taken with food they act as ONLY digestive enzymes however if taken at least one

hour before and after food that they then function as antiflammatories, clean

the blood, eat fibroids , etc.

Please be careful when taking natto Thane. I know seveal people whom found

that even on only 1 capsule a day they started bleeding. It is effective but is

also the only systemic enzymes that can be dangerous.

blessings

Shan

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What Are Systemic Enzymes and What Do They Do?

By: Dr. Wong ND, PhD. Sections - Natural Anti-Inflammatory. Anti

Fibrosis. Blood Cleansing. Immune System Modulating.Virus Fighting. There are

currently over 200 peer reviewed research articles dealing with the absorption,

utilization and therapeutic action of orally administered systemic enzymes.

http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/WhatAreSystemicEnzymes.ht\

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http://www.systemicenzymetherapy.com/TherapeuticApplications/SystemicEnzymes.htm

Everything You Learned About Enzymes Was Wrong

First let talk about what an enzyme is – an enzyme is a large protein molecule

that cleaves, cuts or eats specific pre-designated things (think of Pac Man with

shark-like teeth). Depending on the programming of the " teeth " , the enzymes

fit over certain substances in a lock and key fashion, cutting through one

specific type of thing, a particular type protein let's say, yet leaving

undisturbed protein of a similar but slightly different type. Enzymes are

essential as " bio catalysts " , in other words they speed the action of chemical

reactions. Without enzymes involved in every cellular event in our bodies, the

chemical reactions within us would be so slow as to make life as we know it

impossible. There are some 3000+ enzymes in the human body, most of them of the

proteolytic type. These 3000+ enzymes create between 7000 to 25000 different

enzyme reactions. The 3000 enzymes themselves are created as a result of either

our own enzyme production (which is finite in nature), or created from ingesting

enzymes from our live or uncooked food. The first thing the proteolytic enzymes

do is to create what is known as the enzyme cascade. Most of the enzymes active

in the reactions that occur body- wide are proteolytic in nature; that is, they

are concerned with cleaving a type of specific protein or another (we have

literally hundreds of different types and arrangements of proteins in our

bodies). So the vast majority of the 7000 to 25,000 enzymatic reactions that

need to happen within us are proteolytic in nature. Aside from the 25,000

possible reactions of protein eating enzymes science now knows, they have 5

primary functions: Natural Anti-Inflammatory; Anti Fibrosis; Blood Cleansing;

Immune System Modulating; Virus Fighting.; Fat Loss / Energy Releasing By

Dissolving Body Fat. References here.

http://www.enerex.ca/articles/everything_you_learned_about_enzymes_was_wrong.htm

The Miracle of Oral Enzymes!

By Iichiroh Ohhira " Enzymes are a completely natural substance that many

health experts call the medicine of the future. If you are suffering chronic

pain from arthritis, cancer, sports injuries or heart disease--if you suffer

circulatory problems, tinnitus, fibrocystic breast disease, prostatitis,

sinusitis, shingles, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, thrombophlebitis or

other inflammatory-related conditions, systemic oral enzymes will prove to be

the elixer your body craves now. " ( Loes, M.D., M.D.(H.) and

Steinman, M.A.)

http://www.qualityenzymes.com/html%20pages/researchmiracle.htm

Systemic Enzyme Therapy Supplement to The Art of Getting Well

This explains many things and answers many questions.I have this on Word doc -

if anybody wishes it, email me.The correct medical name for the therapeutic use

of natural enzymes is " Systemic Enzyme Therapy. " This means that enzymes flow

throughout our body, producing the desired healing effects. Enzymes are

necessary for the adequate functioning of our whole metabolism. In our body,

every part of it is related to all the rest; that is, that even one tiny

disturbance, biochemically speaking, can result in a complete imbalance.

Diseases are the consequence of this disorder. The deficiency of any of these

co-enzymes will result in a specific medical condition. For example, vitamin B1

deficiency will elicit " beri-beri. " The vitamin B12 deficiency causes a special

anemia called " pernicious anemia. " The same thing happens with deficiency of

essential minerals and trace elements. Basically, in these cases, we are

speaking of an illness elicited by a disturbance in the enzymatic balance. It is

therefore normal to use enzymes for therapeutic purposes. Substitution in

intestinal enzyme deficiency conditions is a classical treatment modality that

no one would dispute. External use of enzymes for impaired wound healing (e.g.

in the presence of varicose ulcers) has been part of the armamentarium of

medical practitioners for centuries. Parental lytic therapy with streptolinase

or urokinase for cardiac infarct or for vascular occlusions is today standard

throughout the world. Enzymes are very highly substrate specific. Due to their

different places of action, it is therefore reasonable to use mixtures of

enzymes in the treatment of diseases. One important enzyme is called the

hydrolases, which cleave complex compounds (esters, peptides, and

glycosides).The defense mechanisms of the organism are fortified by the enzymes.

They are important for all the inflammatory processes, they take care to keep a

good blood circulation, they help in wound healing of any kind.

http://www.biomediclabs.com/systemic_enzyme_therapy

http://www.garynull.com/documents/Arthritis/Systemic_Enzyme_Therapy.htm

http://www.arthritistrust.org/Articles/Systemic%20Enzyme%20Therapy/index.htm

There is additional info included in this pdf file that there is not in the

article above.

http://www.arthritistrust.org/Articles/Systemic%20Enzyme%20Therapy.pdf

http://www.aliveandwellsf.org/articles/solorzano_Systemic_Enzyme_Therapy_1994.pd\

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Systemic vs. Digestive Enzymes: What's the Difference?

Systemic enzymes are usually only the proteolytic (protein lysing) enzymes; they

are either entericly coated or cultured to be acid and heat resistant. These

enzymes are much more expensive to produce than those used for digestion even

when they have the same names. Systemic enzymes are engineered to survive

stomach acid and get into the small intestine where they are to be absorbed into

the blood stream. Digestive enzymes, on the other hand, have a broad range of

enzymes for protein digestion, as well as for the digestion of fiber,

(cellulase) carbohydrates (amylase) and fats (lipase). The products actions are

limited to the GI tract and these enzymes are not generally of high quality,

enteric coating or protection from the acidic stomach juices. They do not

survive well nor are they present in sufficient quantity after being used for

digestion to be absorbed into the blood stream.

http://www.systemicenzymetherapy.com/TherapeuticApplications/SystemicVsDigestive\

..htm

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of all the systemic enzymes i've tried the ones that actually seem to have an effect are virastop from enzymedica. can't buy them in large quantities so they never get cheaper. it is so hard to take them in the day or evening, away from thryoid meds,binders, chelex, etc, etc, that i take them in the night when i get up to pee and then also in mid-afternoon. i'm doing a course of candex right now and the ony way i could fit that in was to do it while doing the systemic enzymes. i hope they don't eat each other, any opinions? whatever is going on, i've had a few hours in the afternoon on three different days this week that i was able to funciotn better. that is huge for me.....susie Systemic enzymes are enzymes that when consumed are absorbed into the blood circulation and travel around doing all kinds of good stuff like devouring foreign proteins like dead bacteria, neutralizing toxins, safely reducing inflammation, modulating the immune system, clearing arterial plaque, thinning the blood, busting open cysts, etc... Us lymies have a million reasons why we should be taking them. .

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At our house we dose, NattoK, Serrplus, candidaise or candex, and virastop at the same time, two hours away from everything. If I wake up prior to the kids I dose them while they are asleep.

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I get Serrapeptase from www.GoodHealthUSA.com They have it at 80,000 I.U.

strength. I get that strength as I take so many pills/capsules everyday and

prefer to take less. My doctor's clinic sells serrapeptase at of 40,000 IU and

also 60,000 IU but even though they are not as strong, they are more expensive

for some reason. That website sells serrapeptase by the single bottle or in a 4

pack and not also in a pack of 10 bottles. It is less expensive in the larger

quantities and now get the 10 pack. The capsules also have no magnesium

stearate or any other stearates as fillers - which is a plus in my books.

blessings

Shan

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