Re: Symptoms: Oversensitive bladder + Eye itching

[Guest guest]

Our daughter has the same problem during chelation. The urologist prescribed

DDAVP. It works great for the frequent urination and it clears a foggy brain.

She also becomes foggy when taking CLO - but does better with flax. I hope you

find a solution.

Shari

Symptoms: Oversensitive bladder + Eye itching

Dear Listmates:

I recently observed a peculiar appearance of symptoms in my 7 yr old

(PDD-NOS)when I gave him Flax oil:

1. Oversensitive bladder causing him to urinate frequently and wet

his bed at times. Even a small amt of water causes him to run to the

bathroom.

2. Eye itching: He says " My eye is hurting " and rubs his eye

frequently.

These symptoms disappear if I stop the Flax oil. The same symptoms

had appeared when we tried antiinflammatory medication called

Singulair. These symptoms always occur together, leading me to

believe that there must be some connection between them and reduction

in inflammation. When he is on Flax oil or Singulair is behaves just

like a normal child and is very aware, and amazes the therapists who

work with him. But this effect wear out leading to stimming,

misbehavior etc. after 2-3 weeks.

Has anyone had any such experience?

The only thing I came up with after some research is that Herpes

Zoster virus when activated can cause what is called as Bladder

neuralgia. Since this virus resides in the CNS it affects the bladder

and the eye through the nerves connection to these organs. Could it

be that the antiinflammatories cause the virus to be activated to

some level... any thoughts? any experiences?

Thanks,

Sangeeta

Mom to Shikhar and Ameya

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[Guest guest]

This are two symptoms of yeast overgrowth which I get. My *guess* is he has

this all the time, and only notices it when he's more aware. Maybe try the

flax with some yeast-reducing stuff and see if it helps. I use GSE, Pau

d'Arco, oregano oil, and control my carb intake.

Liz

>

> Reply-To: csb-autism-rx

> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 02:06:29 -0000

> To: csb-autism-rx

> Subject: Symptoms: Oversensitive bladder + Eye itching

>

> Dear Listmates:

>

> I recently observed a peculiar appearance of symptoms in my 7 yr old

> (PDD-NOS)when I gave him Flax oil:

>

> 1. Oversensitive bladder causing him to urinate frequently and wet

> his bed at times. Even a small amt of water causes him to run to the

> bathroom.

>

> 2. Eye itching: He says " My eye is hurting " and rubs his eye

> frequently.

>

> These symptoms disappear if I stop the Flax oil. The same symptoms

> had appeared when we tried antiinflammatory medication called

> Singulair. These symptoms always occur together, leading me to

> believe that there must be some connection between them and reduction

> in inflammation. When he is on Flax oil or Singulair is behaves just

> like a normal child and is very aware, and amazes the therapists who

> work with him. But this effect wear out leading to stimming,

> misbehavior etc. after 2-3 weeks.

>

> Has anyone had any such experience?

>

> The only thing I came up with after some research is that Herpes

> Zoster virus when activated can cause what is called as Bladder

> neuralgia. Since this virus resides in the CNS it affects the bladder

> and the eye through the nerves connection to these organs. Could it

> be that the antiinflammatories cause the virus to be activated to

> some level... any thoughts? any experiences?

>

> Thanks,

> Sangeeta

> Mom to Shikhar and Ameya

> _____________________

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to Shari and Liz for your replies! Much appreciated!

Dr.McCandless/Theresa: I'd really appreciate your feedback/hypothesis

as well!

Shari: Just a word of caution regarding DDAVP. The DDAVP is given to

patients with Diabetes Insipidus (not the common " SUGAR diabetes " ,

but a different kind of rare " WATER diabetes " ) as a hormone

replacement. I know this because I have this very rare medical

condition. My body doesn't make that hormone at all, never has.

However, have you checked with the doctor to check if it is okay to

give it to a child who already produces the hormone naturally. My

concern is that you child's body will start producing less and less

of this hormone if it starts getting it from an outside source

regularly. I urge you to check with an endocrinologist regarding this

if you plan on giving DDAVP longterm.

Liz: I'll look into the yeast factor.

Thanks,

Sangeeta

> Dear Listmates:

>

> I recently observed a peculiar appearance of symptoms in my 7 yr

old

> (PDD-NOS)when I gave him Flax oil:

>

> 1. Oversensitive bladder causing him to urinate frequently and wet

> his bed at times. Even a small amt of water causes him to run to

the

> bathroom.

>

> 2. Eye itching: He says " My eye is hurting " and rubs his eye

> frequently.

>

> These symptoms disappear if I stop the Flax oil. The same symptoms

> had appeared when we tried antiinflammatory medication called

> Singulair. These symptoms always occur together, leading me to

> believe that there must be some connection between them and

reduction

> in inflammation. When he is on Flax oil or Singulair is behaves

just

> like a normal child and is very aware, and amazes the therapists

who

> work with him. But this effect wear out leading to stimming,

> misbehavior etc. after 2-3 weeks.

>

> Has anyone had any such experience?

>

> The only thing I came up with after some research is that Herpes

> Zoster virus when activated can cause what is called as Bladder

> neuralgia. Since this virus resides in the CNS it affects the

bladder

> and the eye through the nerves connection to these organs. Could it

> be that the antiinflammatories cause the virus to be activated to

> some level... any thoughts? any experiences?

>

> Thanks,

> Sangeeta

> Mom to Shikhar and Ameya

> _____________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much, Dr. McCandless! We have stopped the Flax oil.

Sangeeta

>

> I have not heard negatives about borage oil as I have (and had

patients

> who had bad side effects from it) from the flaxseed oil. I have

also heard

> that if you grind up the flax seeds fresh each time that they are

better for

> you than the oil in liquid or capsules. In your case, you might

try a

> combination of Borage Oil and Black Currant Oil. A tip; if you

eat less

> bad fats, the kind that is in chips and other processed foods, you

need less

> of the good fats to make up for it, as the bad ones clog up the cell

> membranes so we need more of the good ones to get the oils we

need. Dr.

> JM Re: Re: Symptoms: Oversensitive bladder + Eye itching

> >

> >

> > I missed anything about DDAVP, so I'm not sure what that

comment was

> > referring to. However, I personally do not use or like flax

seed oil,

> > as some kids do not have an enzyme that allows them to break it

down

> > properly, and it can go rancid easily. I found some other

> > contraindications to it below that may account for your son's

reactions.

> > Dr. JM

> >

> > DRUG INTERACTIONS (to linseed aka flaxseed oil)

> > Because of the mucilage content, it may adversely affect the

> > absorption of drugs, iron and other minerals. When taken

simultaneously,

> > bulk-forming laxatives may inhibit the absorption of other

drugs (e.g.

> > aspirin, cardiac glycosides, antibiotics, anticoagulants, etc.)

and

> > dietary nutrients (e.g. calcium, iron, zinc, sodium, potassium,

etc.).

> > Due to the diuretic action of this herb the following drug

interactions

> > are possible: increased risk of toxicity with anti-inflammatory

> > analgesics; if hypokalemia occurs possible antagonism with

> > antiarrhythmics and potentiation of muscle relaxants;

antagonizes

> > antidiabetic (hypoglycemic) drugs; may potentiate and/or

interfere with

> > antihypertensives; may potentiate lithium therapy; when taken

with

> > corticosteroids there is a risk for hypokalemia; may potentiate

other

> > diuretics and increase the risk of hypokalemia.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

> <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

> >

> >