Re: Do Antidepressants Cause Depression? What New Study Says

[Guest guest]

Making it sound like natural variation in moods is more stable than

artificially imposed variation. It looks mostly as though

monitoring is inadequate between psychiatric visits.

Le 16/03/2012 1:49 PM, Kaivey a écrit :

Depressed

people who use antidepressants are far more likely to

suffer a relapse of major depression than those who

avoid antidepressants, study says.

Jul 20, 2011

What causes

depression? Scientists have identified all sorts of

things, from emotional stress and substance abuse to

having the wrong genes.

And now a provocative new study suggests a cause of

depression that few may have suspected:

Taking antidepressant medication.

The study, published in the journal Frontiers of

Psychology, showed that depressed people who use

antidepressants are far more likely to suffer a relapse

of major depression than those who avoid

antidepressants.

For the study, McMaster University evolutionary

psychologist Dr. s and his colleagues

analyzed dozens of previously published studies to

compare outcomes for patients who used antidepressants

to those for patients who used placebos.

They found that antidepressant users have a roughly 42

percent chance of a relapse, as compared with a 25

percent chance for those who shun antidepressant pills.

In other words, the pill poppers are almost twice as

susceptible to future bouts of depression - a problem

that an estimated 40 percent of all people experience at

some point in their lives.

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Kv

[Guest guest]

First I'd like to say that I agree that antidepressants, at least some of them,

have far more damage than people think, including doctors.

That said, I must say that the study has some major flaws. Patients who take

antidepressants may have, statistically speaking, more severe forms of

depression in the first place than those who do not: the ones with milder

depression don't take drugs for it. That's a simple alternate explanation for

the higher rates of relapse in those who take medications, one that the author

didn't even address.

Furthermore, in juxtapose to patients who took antidepressants and discontinued,

those who are still on the drug have fewer depressive episodes, again,

statistically speaking.

It's important to challenge the conventional wisdom about antidepressants, but

it has to be done properly.

[Guest guest]

The problem is that psychiatry will not do the research to find out the truth. G A Fava, a professor of psychiatry, has done his own research and found much higher levels of chronic depression in patients who used antidepressants. He also discovered that the drug were causing quite a lot of people to go bipolar. Many other rersearchers have had similar results. Over 30 years ago G A Fava asked the American Psychiatric Profession (APA) to do a larger study on this to find out if his research was correct as he himself wasn't sure if people who take antidepresants just have worse depressions and this wasn't coming to light in his small scale studies. The APA told him told him to get lost, they're not interested. Bob Whitaker has a copy of G A Fava's's letter on one of his sites.

Long-Term Treatment with Antidepressant Drugs: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda, by G A FAVA

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/519-papers-by-dr-ga-fava-long-time-critic-of-antidepressants/Kv

>> First I'd like to say that I agree that antidepressants, at least some of them, have far more damage than people think, including doctors. > > That said, I must say that the study has some major flaws. Patients who take antidepressants may have, statistically speaking, more severe forms of depression in the first place than those who do not: the ones with milder depression don't take drugs for it. That's a simple alternate explanation for the higher rates of relapse in those who take medications, one that the author didn't even address. > > Furthermore, in juxtapose to patients who took antidepressants and discontinued, those who are still on the drug have fewer depressive episodes, again, statistically speaking. > > It's important to challenge the conventional wisdom about antidepressants, but it has to be done properly.>