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Hi, Candy. I am glad you didn't take any offense. The doctor is right in that a

liver can regenerate. It can. The myth of prometheus is ancient.

http://physiologyonline.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/14/4/149

but even though there is a new school of thinking that is leaning toward

cirrhosis being able to reverse itselt in it's early stages, after the onset of

complications, especially decompensation, the evedence suggests that it cannot

reverse. One reason we don't know more about weather it can or not, is that

people with decompensated cirrhosis either get transplanted or they die. My

take on the doctor is that he is painting the brightest picture one can paint,

and that to me in the light of your brother's condition sounds a lot like

quacking noises. My quack-o-meter starts blinking. I think a doctor should give

the facts, and if he wants to make educated gueses about the patient's

prognosis, that's fine, but any doctor could also say " breast cancer can go into

remission " . Sure. I'm sure it can. But those thousands of ladies wearing pink

and walking for breast cancer awareness makes me think that it would be no rosy

picture if your biopsy comes back

positive.

Re: Visited with my brother yesterday.....

Bobby,

I understand what you're saying, about Ardis. I've been through a

similar situation, where someone or something comes into your life as

a Teacher. I carry a tremendous amount of guilt because of my

Teacher. He suffered because of my ignorance, but it won't happen

twice. I now know what I should know. I'm working on the guilt. I

just don't need any more guilt or regrets in my life. So part of my

concern for my brother is selfish. Been there, done that, got the

T-shirt.

I haven't been offended here, I'm smart enough to know that there are

people here who have experience I can learn from.

I'm going to visit him and make peace with the fact that my input

isn't wanted.

I'm going to do my best not to blame his wife. The last straw for me

was when the Internist told them that livers regenerate. He's

misleading them. But it's none of my concern if that's the doctor he

choses to see.

I'm so happy I found you and the others here.

Candy

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> Thanks for reading it, Candy. I always tell people that when they

read it, it takes away some of my pain. So many people have posted

here that they really truly read it, that I feel much more healed

today. I can enjoy only the good memories, and leave all the sorrow

out. I hope I didn't offend you. I am not advocating total hands off,

you must think this through, and decide what will be of best benefit

to your brother. Sharon and I both agree that not many people would

have a couple of folks around to catch them when they fall, while they

go about drinking and deteriorating, and being repeatedly

hospitalized. The mere fact that we are having this dialog lends

credence to my belief that I was not just offering a home, and helping

hand to a friend, but that she was God's messenger, sent here to help

a lot of people learn a better way to live. Countless people in my

life have stopped or moderated their drinking of alcohol. Many are

changing the way they

> view health, and their health care. So, I am glad that I found a

mix in which I was able to accomplish several things: she was loved.

We both truly loved this woman, and we were both crushed when she

died. 2 she was able to enjoy her social seceurity for the short time

she was here after our gov saw fit to release it. 3 She was safe ,

warm and dry. She didnt die under a bridge somewhere, or in the biting

cold that came shortly after she died. I hope that because of Ardis'

message to the world, you can find a way to help your brother get

help, and that maybe they will soften their hearts enough to let you

help. I know that Ardis was totally resistant until really bad

encephalopathy had set in. Maybe your brother will reach some kind of

point in a similar fashion. At the very least, you can try to convey

love to him, now while you can. and then you will not suffer so much

when he dies. His wife is another story. There is the makings here for

some really

> powerful resentments. I really really wish you well in this, and I

hope and pray for you and your brother, and your family. Bobby

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I started out typing this whole long answer but when I re-read it, I erased it

because it didn't say anything except that I am mad and pissed off at your

sister in-law. I don't even know her!

I wish I could come over and talk to your brother for only a short minute. His

time is short.

Candy, let me be point blank. Your brother is critically ill! I've seen the

same signs with my wife. Being a sleep all the time is not a good sign!

There is a chance for him to slip into a coma from the encephalopathy. This is

the most common cause of death in cirrhosis patients. So withouth the lactulose,

he doesn't even have a fighting chance. Hell ask him to take the two table

spoons of honey three times a day if he doesn't want lactulose. It should do the

same thing.

MaC

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