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Hi ri

I really think this is a case for a good psychotherapist; at her age she is

eligible for treatment by the local Child and Adolescent Mental Health Team,

to whom her GP should have referred her long before now.(but probably

hasn't, GPs still think enuresis is a 'physical' problem) Trouble is, they

often have long, long waiting lists. I'm with the mother to some degree on

not wanting hypnotherapy, she's a bit young for that, however, her

reluctance could be a bit more than it sounds, eg if the girl is being/has

been abused and mum doesn't want this to come out. All in all, it sounds a

bit tricky, and I'd be wanting to speak to, at least, the school nurse, to

share the problem with someone in the orthodox field who has a bit of

knowledge about the girl and her background. You need to get both mum and

daughter's permission, though, before you go talking to anyone else. In the

meantime, have you tried Equisetum and Verbascum? I presume you've done all

the nervines and taken her off dairy.

Love

Alison

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Dear ri,

She certainly isn't too young to have hypnosis. I am

married to a child psychologist who often uses hypnosis in children much

younger. Since the waiting lists for clinical psychologists are often long

and her problem may be related to school another option would be to contact

the local authority educational psychologist department. This can be done

directly without the schools permission. Obviously not all ed psychs use

hypnosis but there are plenty of other behavioural approaches which could

help her with relationships with peers and if there is any bullying they can

act with the school.

Regards, Pat

enuresis

> Hi ri

> I really think this is a case for a good psychotherapist; at her age she

is

> eligible for treatment by the local Child and Adolescent Mental Health

Team,

> to whom her GP should have referred her long before now.(but probably

> hasn't, GPs still think enuresis is a 'physical' problem) Trouble is, they

> often have long, long waiting lists. I'm with the mother to some degree on

> not wanting hypnotherapy, she's a bit young for that, however, her

> reluctance could be a bit more than it sounds, eg if the girl is being/has

> been abused and mum doesn't want this to come out. All in all, it sounds a

> bit tricky, and I'd be wanting to speak to, at least, the school nurse, to

> share the problem with someone in the orthodox field who has a bit of

> knowledge about the girl and her background. You need to get both mum and

> daughter's permission, though, before you go talking to anyone else. In

the

> meantime, have you tried Equisetum and Verbascum? I presume you've done

all

> the nervines and taken her off dairy.

> Love

> Alison

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Thanks ,

Ammenorhea has been attributed to the drugs....... . She is over weight and

has an unhealthy complexion (pasty, soft). No, she is not pregnant. No UT

infections, no physical cause. Her GP has had her checked out from top to

toe re physical causes.

Drinks...........no soft sugary drinkks or very little.

Thanks

ri

Enuresis

> ri -

>

> You say this pt's periods stopped a few months ago. What age was she when

> her periods first started? Why do you think they have stopped? Tied in

with

> whatever is causing enuresis or something else? Is she under/overweight?

Could

> she be pregnant? Presumably you have looked at what she drinks and when

she

> drinks it, UT infections, etc.

>

> Just a few thoughts.

> Bullen

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Sorry, Pat, didn't mean to pour cold water on hypnotists; just have some

experience of well-meaning people trying to use it with children

inappropriately, and concerned about mother's unwillingness to explore all

possibilities. Hope I didn't tread too hard on sensitive toes!

Alison

>

>Reply-To: ukherbal-list

>To: <ukherbal-list >

>Subject: Re: enuresis

>Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:22:21 -0000

>

>Dear ri,

> She certainly isn't too young to have hypnosis. I am

>married to a child psychologist who often uses hypnosis in children much

>younger. Since the waiting lists for clinical psychologists are often long

>and her problem may be related to school another option would be to contact

>the local authority educational psychologist department. This can be done

>directly without the schools permission. Obviously not all ed psychs use

>hypnosis but there are plenty of other behavioural approaches which could

>help her with relationships with peers and if there is any bullying they

>can

>act with the school.

> Regards, Pat

> enuresis

>

>

> > Hi ri

> > I really think this is a case for a good psychotherapist; at her age she

>is

> > eligible for treatment by the local Child and Adolescent Mental Health

>Team,

> > to whom her GP should have referred her long before now.(but probably

> > hasn't, GPs still think enuresis is a 'physical' problem) Trouble is,

>they

> > often have long, long waiting lists. I'm with the mother to some degree

>on

> > not wanting hypnotherapy, she's a bit young for that, however, her

> > reluctance could be a bit more than it sounds, eg if the girl is

>being/has

> > been abused and mum doesn't want this to come out. All in all, it sounds

>a

> > bit tricky, and I'd be wanting to speak to, at least, the school nurse,

>to

> > share the problem with someone in the orthodox field who has a bit of

> > knowledge about the girl and her background. You need to get both mum

>and

> > daughter's permission, though, before you go talking to anyone else. In

>the

> > meantime, have you tried Equisetum and Verbascum? I presume you've done

>all

> > the nervines and taken her off dairy.

> > Love

> > Alison

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today!

> > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

> >

> >

> >

> > List Owner

> >

> >

> >

> > Graham White, MNIMH

> >

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