baby with infercted eczema

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Help! Does anyone have any experience of treating infected eczema? Baby is

eight months old, eczema started at 3 months (has not had any immunisations) and

treated so far with just topical calendula and or camomile cream and flax seed

oil. Atopic family history both sides. He had dry patches all over his body

which have mostly gone now. What is persistent are the red itchy patches on

forehead, eyebrows, cheeks and skin around ear lobes. He has occasional weeping

patches around ear lobes which clear up after a couple of days and small

pustules on backs of hands and thumb which don't seem to itch. Has occasional

Camomile or Calendula baths. Has had a couple of URTI through winter treated

with herbs but generally well, eating well - no dairy or wheat, still breast

fed. All ok until wed evening, was not his usual self, breath has unusual

odour, area around ears became very weepy, red, inflamed looking, very itchy.

Also left wrist the same, (I thought it curious it wasn't both wrists?) very wet

and itchy, forehead very itchy. By Thursday red angry rash spread to whole of

face and some to chest, today chest is worse and now on neck front and back and

down arms, weepy areas now dry and crusty . Wrist is looking dryer too.

Difficulty sleeping due to itching. Seen GP today and of course have come home

armed with Flucloxacillin, Hydrocortisone 1% for wrist and 0.5% for ears. So,

what to do now, the fear of this becoming worse is inclining me to use med from

the GP (this is my baby by the way), also the discomfort of itching is

distressing to watch, but giving all this to my so far unpolluted baby isn't

desirable as well. I'm sure this is the just another of those agonising

decisions motherhood seems littered with of which way to go. Has anybody braved

this out? Is the best thing to give the med and treat with herbs at same time.

Would be grateful for any help and suggestions.

Many thanks in advance

lulu

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Hello Lulu,

I've just seen my 6 month old baby with eczema - the secondary infection

cleared quickly with the constant use of Calendula + Stellaria (20g

each) creams + hemp oil (10g) + 5 drops of Tea tree oil.

Also, perk up the immune system with Echinacea etc.

Good luck,

Benn

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Benn Abdy- MCPP

Medical Herbalist

Windsor & London

0 or 07957 65 88 90

[Guest guest]

Thanks Benn for the quick reply, great that it has worked. That horrible

pink liquid can just sit on the shelf for the moment!

Lulu

Re: baby with infercted eczema

> Hello Lulu,

>

> I've just seen my 6 month old baby with eczema - the secondary infection

> cleared quickly with the constant use of Calendula + Stellaria (20g

> each) creams + hemp oil (10g) + 5 drops of Tea tree oil.

>

> Also, perk up the immune system with Echinacea etc.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Benn

> --

> Benn Abdy- MCPP

> Medical Herbalist

> Windsor & London

> 0 or 07957 65 88 90

>

>

> List Owner

>

>

>

> Graham White, MNIMH

>

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Hi Lulu

I had 2 babies with nasty eczema myself and have treated many.

I cannot give you an adequate explanation for it, but red ears progressing

to eczematous lesions often relates to a wheat or gluten intolerance. make

sure there is none in your own diet and keep the dairy products out as well.

do you use herbs in the bath? I often give a mix of Stellaria, matricaria,

Calendula and Viola tric. to make as a good strong infusion and add to bath

water. Increase the Calendula in infection. Oats in the bath (that's raw

porridge oats in an old sock if you haven't got a muslin bag) can work

wonders but will cause a flare-up if he's sensitive to oats. patch test on

a bit of unaffected skin before adding to the bath.

marianne

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nne Last BA MNIMH, Consultant Medical Herbalist

Tel/Fax: 01600 719497

www.mariannelast.co.uk

baby with infercted eczema

Help! Does anyone have any experience of treating infected eczema? Baby is

eight months old, eczema started at 3 months (has not had any immunisations)

and treated so far with just topical calendula and or camomile cream and

flax seed oil. Atopic family history both sides. He had dry patches all

over his body which have mostly gone now. What is persistent are the red

itchy patches on forehead, eyebrows, cheeks and skin around ear lobes. He

has occasional weeping patches around ear lobes which clear up after a

couple of days and small pustules on backs of hands and thumb which don't

seem to itch. Has occasional Camomile or Calendula baths. Has had a couple

of URTI through winter treated with herbs but generally well, eating well -

no dairy or wheat, still breast fed. All ok until wed evening, was not his

usual self, breath has unusual odour, area around ears became very weepy,

red, inflamed looking, very itchy. Also left wrist the same, (I thought it

curious it wasn't both wrists?) very wet and itchy, forehead very itchy. By

Thursday red angry rash spread to whole of face and some to chest, today

chest is worse and now on neck front and back and down arms, weepy areas now

dry and crusty . Wrist is looking dryer too. Difficulty sleeping due to

itching. Seen GP today and of course have come home armed with

Flucloxacillin, Hydrocortisone 1% for wrist and 0.5% for ears. So, what to

do now, the fear of this becoming worse is inclining me to use med from the

GP (this is my baby by the way), also the discomfort of itching is

distressing to watch, but giving all this to my so far unpolluted baby isn't

desirable as well. I'm sure this is the just another of those agonising

decisions motherhood seems littered with of which way to go. Has anybody

braved this out? Is the best thing to give the med and treat with herbs at

same time. Would be grateful for any help and suggestions.

Many thanks in advance

lulu

[Guest guest]

Lulu,

experiment with your diet most likely there is something in it that goes into

reat milk and irritates the eczema e.g. dairy, wheat etc. Also you may want to

increase your intake of EFA (hemp seed oil). My son, who has eczema, was

reacting to my breast milk and improved when I reduced the amount of cheese I

ate.

Good luck

Newton

> from: lulurob

> date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:10:38

> to: ukherbal-list

> subject: Re: baby with infercted eczema

>

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Hi nne

thanks very much (to as well) for all your advice. We have been away

the last 2 weeks and I have changed my diet (yet again!) and excluded many

more things. The only

remaining wheat item was pasta and so have now removed that as well - I'm

sure you are right as I had pasta last week and he had a flare the following

day......so hopefully things will now improve. Do you know if it is only

the

gluten in wheat that's the problem or something else in it? And have you

found a general rule for a time period that if a reaction is going to happen

it will occur within a certain limited time period (although I guess this is

very individual) ?. Had thought in children it probably happens quite

quickly? He does have herbal baths but I have only tried calendula and

chamomile so far, but am about to try your mix.

Lulu

baby with infercted eczema

>

>

> Help! Does anyone have any experience of treating infected eczema? Baby

is

> eight months old, eczema started at 3 months (has not had any

immunisations)

> and treated so far with just topical calendula and or camomile cream and

> flax seed oil. Atopic family history both sides. He had dry patches all

> over his body which have mostly gone now. What is persistent are the red

> itchy patches on forehead, eyebrows, cheeks and skin around ear lobes. He

> has occasional weeping patches around ear lobes which clear up after a

> couple of days and small pustules on backs of hands and thumb which don't

> seem to itch. Has occasional Camomile or Calendula baths. Has had a

couple

> of URTI through winter treated with herbs but generally well, eating

well -

> no dairy or wheat, still breast fed. All ok until wed evening, was not

his

> usual self, breath has unusual odour, area around ears became very weepy,

> red, inflamed looking, very itchy. Also left wrist the same, (I thought

it

> curious it wasn't both wrists?) very wet and itchy, forehead very itchy.

By

> Thursday red angry rash spread to whole of face and some to chest, today

> chest is worse and now on neck front and back and down arms, weepy areas

now

> dry and crusty . Wrist is looking dryer too. Difficulty sleeping due to

> itching. Seen GP today and of course have come home armed with

> Flucloxacillin, Hydrocortisone 1% for wrist and 0.5% for ears. So, what

to

> do now, the fear of this becoming worse is inclining me to use med from

the

> GP (this is my baby by the way), also the discomfort of itching is

> distressing to watch, but giving all this to my so far unpolluted baby

isn't

> desirable as well. I'm sure this is the just another of those agonising

> decisions motherhood seems littered with of which way to go. Has anybody

> braved this out? Is the best thing to give the med and treat with herbs

at

> same time. Would be grateful for any help and suggestions.

> Many thanks in advance

> lulu

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lulu

will miss you at conferance! re wheat/gluten. I have been exploring this with my

daughters IBS with nutritionist. Seems they consider modern wheat gluten hard to

digest, leads to GIT inflammation, messes up absorption and elimination,

therefore increases load on liver re detoxification. I wonder if with your

ingestion of wheat, one then detoxifies more via breast milk....maybe this is

part of the impact on the baby. Blood group O apparantly very unable to deal

with many cereals particularly wheat. Hope little one and you, soon have easier

time of it.

love

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Hi Lulu

in my experience there's quite a variation in wheat intolerance. if it's the

gluten portion he'll react to oats, rye and barley as well. a lot of people

react to wheat per se but not particularly to gluten, so beware gluten-free

products, which often contain deglutenised wheat (!). they also commonly

contain soya and corn flour which are in themselves common allergens. and

I've seen a lot of people who react to wheat bran but not to white wheat, so

can take mother's pride and white pasta but not weetabix!

nne

==========================================

nne Last MNIMH

The Herbal Dispensary for fast dispensing from herbalist to patient.

dispensing@...

Re: baby with infercted eczema

Hi nne

thanks very much (to as well) for all your advice. We have been away

the last 2 weeks and I have changed my diet (yet again!) and excluded many

more things. The only

remaining wheat item was pasta and so have now removed that as well - I'm

sure you are right as I had pasta last week and he had a flare the following

day......so hopefully things will now improve. Do you know if it is only

the

gluten in wheat that's the problem or something else in it? And have you

found a general rule for a time period that if a reaction is going to happen

it will occur within a certain limited time period (although I guess this is

very individual) ?. Had thought in children it probably happens quite

quickly? He does have herbal baths but I have only tried calendula and

chamomile so far, but am about to try your mix.

Lulu

-

[Guest guest]

thanks nne, I think it may be gluten as he seemed to react to the Rye

bread I've been eating (no suspect ingredients in it) and on excluding that

too eczema is much better - so my diet is now really exciting with no dairy

or gluten! but, its all good experiential learning! Thinking more long term

with babies, I suppose is it good to retry these foods periodically when the

gut is more mature? have you found an average age or time gap to begin

retrying?

Lulu

Re: baby with infercted eczema

>

>

> Hi nne

> thanks very much (to as well) for all your advice. We have been away

> the last 2 weeks and I have changed my diet (yet again!) and excluded many

> more things. The only

> remaining wheat item was pasta and so have now removed that as well - I'm

> sure you are right as I had pasta last week and he had a flare the

following

> day......so hopefully things will now improve. Do you know if it is only

> the

> gluten in wheat that's the problem or something else in it? And have

you

> found a general rule for a time period that if a reaction is going to

happen

> it will occur within a certain limited time period (although I guess this

is

> very individual) ?. Had thought in children it probably happens quite

> quickly? He does have herbal baths but I have only tried calendula and

> chamomile so far, but am about to try your mix.

> Lulu

> -

>

>

>

> List Owner

>

>

>

> Graham White, MNIMH

>

[Guest guest]

No, don't retry. a problem at this age is a problem. it may go underground

for a while but will resurface again, maybe with different symptoms.

marianne

==========================================

nne Last MNIMH

The Herbal Dispensary for fast dispensing from herbalist to patient.

dispensing@...

Re: baby with infercted eczema

thanks nne, I think it may be gluten as he seemed to react to the

Rye

bread I've been eating (no suspect ingredients in it) and on excluding

that

too eczema is much better - so my diet is now really exciting with no

dairy

or gluten! but, its all good experiential learning! Thinking more long

term

with babies, I suppose is it good to retry these foods periodically when

the

gut is more mature? have you found an average age or time gap to begin

retrying?

Lulu

Re: baby with infercted eczema

>

>

> Hi nne

> thanks very much (to as well) for all your advice. We have been

away

> the last 2 weeks and I have changed my diet (yet again!) and excluded

many

> more things. The only

> remaining wheat item was pasta and so have now removed that as well -

I'm

> sure you are right as I had pasta last week and he had a flare the

following

> day......so hopefully things will now improve. Do you know if it is

only

> the

> gluten in wheat that's the problem or something else in it? And have

you

> found a general rule for a time period that if a reaction is going to

happen

> it will occur within a certain limited time period (although I guess

this

is

> very individual) ?. Had thought in children it probably happens quite

> quickly? He does have herbal baths but I have only tried calendula and

> chamomile so far, but am about to try your mix.

> Lulu

> -

>

>

>

> List Owner

>

>

>

> Graham White, MNIMH

>