Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Please reply if you have any information on treating lichen sclerosis or mononeuritis with herbal medicine. My LS patient resorted to buying corticosteroid cream over the internet, with no improvement. She has developed more " splits " on her vulva, itching stopped and is better inherself. Any information on the link between vitiligo and LS? Mononeuritis patient is feeling the effects of 10-15 mg preds daily but better inherself since hypericum and other nervines. Thank you > Hello everyone > > I have 2 clients that I would love you to share your words of wisdom with > me. > > One is a 64 year woman suffering from lichen sclerosis, episodic > nocturia/urinary frequency, vitiligo and exhaustion. She has a high level of > self awareness, teaches yoga, studies ceramics, co-manages a clinic and > still works one day a week as a shiatsu practitioner. She has a " split " on > her vulva that almost completely heals, becomes smaller, stops being painful > and inflamed and then has recently recurred. She has just recently developed > a split on the other lip of her vulva. I have not examined the area. This > condition has affected how she feels about herself and her sexual > relationship with her husband. She is frightened of cancerous changes > developing. Her recurrent cystitis has resolved with herbal medicine but her > urine pH fluctuates between 5-6.5 despite eating large amount of fresh fruit > and vegetables and little animal products or alcohol. When she is tired and > run down she produces copious amounts of pale urine. Herbs and acupuncture > help this. > > She has experienced a very difficult year that has included a deterioration > in her mother's Alzheimer's disease and death. Her daughter-in-law > has also recently had a traumatic birth and caesarean and is taking a long > time to recover. This has meant that my client has done a lot of caring for > the baby and suffered sleep deprivation as the baby cried all the time until > a visit to the osteopath this week. > > I have prescribed tisanes containing various combinations of Leonurus, > Avena, Zea, Urtica, Arctylostaphylos, Althaea fol, & Symphytum over this > year. I have also prescribed Calendula ointment, Avicenna's Rose, Lavender & > Chamomile cream, Symphytum infused oil, Plantago ointment and recently > Plantago & Symphytum ointment (infused oils, Borage oil & beeswax). She has > also taken Plantago succus. Her family have made up flower essences for her. > Her diet was pretty good - just encouraged plenty of fresh fruit & veg, oily > fish, seeds and water and minimal processed foods, sugars, animal products > and alcohol. Later she found a book called the " pH Miracle " by > Young. > > She had picked up and was feeling much better until her mother became ill > and died in September. In November the " split " area wasn't bothering her, > since using the Plantago & Symphytum ointment but she had developed soreness > around the edge of her vulva. She was sleeping well and had no nocturia. I > prescribed tincture containing Cimicifuga, Eleutherococcus, Symphytum & > Leonurus. Last week end she reached the end of her tether and bought some > clobetasol cream over the internet. She felt desperately tired and over > worked from caring for her grandchild. She was frightened about cancerous > changes. She did say that her vitiligo had improved significantly since > taking Vit B 5. She decided to stop using the clobetasol cream after reading > my BMA Guide to Medicines & Drugs and discussion with me. She is considering > using the corticosteroid cream prescribed by her GP for a week. > > I prescribed some flower essences for her and am having another think. My > approach has mostly been based on Susun Weed and Ruth Trickey's works, which > I usually find very helpful. She obviously needs time to grieve, heal and > restore her energy reserves. Any words of wisdom? > > My other client is an 80 year old woman suffering from mononeuritis complex. > Her legs ache, she has left foot drop, she finds it difficult to make her > " legs go " , her feet and 4th & 5th fingers on both hands tingle. She wears a > brace on her left leg. Her discomfort, anxiety and worries interfere with > her sleep. She has urgency when she needs to pass urine that has recently > developed into occasional urinary incontinence, which she finds very > distressing. Her blood potassium levels are low (3.6) despite > supplementation. She is still caring for her step son who has cerebral > palsy. Her other son died from Frederick's ataxia. She had an hysterectomy > because > of a fibroid, gastric ulceration from taking aspirin and corticosteroids > together a few years ago and hypertension during pregnancy and possibly > since. She is taking a cocktail of drugs i.e. 15mg prednisolone/day > (corticosteroid); 300mg naftidrofuryl/d (vasodilator); 75mg clopidogrel/d > (antiplatelet) ; 25mg hydrochlorothiazide/d (thiazide diuretic); 10mg > pravastatin nocte (statin) & 1200mg potassium chloride/d. Corticosteroids > increase the urinary loss of potassium associated with hydrochlorothiazide. > She ultimately wants to minimise her medication, especially the > prednisolone. Her blood pressure is 130/95 and PR 45 bpm, strong & regular. > I found bruising and haemorrhages on her hands and forearms. She asked her > GP to review her medications and to explain her health problems more clearly > on my encouragement. Her GP discussed it with another colleague and agreed > to continue the drugs as above. Her GP is not keen on her taking any herbal > medications. > > I started conservatively and prescribed a tisane consisting of Avena, > Scutellaria, Tilia & Urtica. Since then she developed a urinary infection, > took antibiotics and saw the neurologist who was happy with her progress. He > changed the Pred to 15mg one day and 10mg every other day. He claims that > they will stop the mononeuritis from spreading. She was still uncomfortable > so I gave her some dried Hypericum for a tisane, after checking herb-drug > interaction information. She then felt awful for a while because of a viral > infection and said that her feet were worse when it is cold. After a week or > so of taking the Hypericum and other tisane together, she has just called to > say that she feels better about > things. In the mean time, I had sent her small amount of tincture containing > Hypericum, Echinacea, Viburnum opulus, Scutellaria and a tiny amount of > Zingiber to tide her over until our consultation next week. > > Any experience or words of wisdom? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Sorry A brief update should have been posted instead Please reply if you have ideas on treating lichen sclerosis or mononeuritis herbally. Patient with LS resorted to buying corticosteroid cream on-line without benefit. She now wants to use testosterone & oestrogen cream available on-line and is considering chinese herbs. Patient with mononeuritis better in herself on hypericum & other nervines but still uncomfortable legs. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Hi My lichen sclerosis woman now only has to use her steroid cream every couple of months. She has repaet Rx from me of topical applications of Matricaria EO and helichrysum EO in a base of aloe vera gel plus internally Galium FE, Scutellaria baicalensis,, Astragalus, Carduus, Berb. aq. FE, Viola tric. and a bit of Ephedra. She is a generally itchy person and also has some eczema in her external ears. this keeps it all under control. marianne ==================================================== nne Last BA MNIMH, Consultant Medical Herbalist Tel/Fax: 01600 719497 www.mariannelast.co.uk Re: lichen sclerosis & mononeuritis multiplex Sorry A brief update should have been posted instead Please reply if you have ideas on treating lichen sclerosis or mononeuritis herbally. Patient with LS resorted to buying corticosteroid cream on-line without benefit. She now wants to use testosterone & oestrogen cream available on-line and is considering chinese herbs. Patient with mononeuritis better in herself on hypericum & other nervines but still uncomfortable legs. Thanks, List Owner Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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