Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Cancer has to be excluded. I know the GP has seen it but even waiting for 2 months is a waste of time. When you say base of the tongue do you mean on ventral or dorsal side? If it is on dorsal side you will have job to keep anything topically because the tongue will initiate swallow action. However, if it is the ventral side it will be amenabloe for topical application. If you could apply fresh Aloe vera pulp (which you can cut into slices- slightly bitter tase) and give Curcuma longa orally (large doses). I hope this helps Mohi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Neelam, Have you tried a honey salve? Made with unprocessed honey, then powdered and sifted Hydrastis, Symphytum fol and/or other herbs you have on hand which are astringing and antisept/antibac. Mix enough powdered herb until nolonger sticky. Marcia > >Reply-To: ukherbal-list >To: <ukherbal-list > >Subject: chronic tongue ulcer >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:29:10 -0000 > >Dear all, >I have a patient coming to see me in a weeks time regarding a chronic ulcer >which has eroded part of her tongue (the base of tongue). Onset in 2000, >surgery performed to remove affected area (Left side). Ulcer is still >present and is proliferative. >. Her GP fears that it may turn malignant and has proposed surgery in 2 >months time. Has a dry cough practically every morning. > The patient is under a lot of stress and would try anything to avoid >surgery. I have warned her that the prospect of surgery may be inevitable, >however we have 2 months to try and achieve some progress. > >Does anyone have any suggestions on how to treat this? Ideas of topical >applications? What would the prognosis be with a case like this? > >Many thanks >Neelam > >P.S what is the best source for herb/drug interactions & herb >contraindications?? > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus & pgmarket=en-ca & RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn\ ..com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 powdered oak bark would be my astringet of choice in that mix of marcia's, myrrh would also be good with the hydrastis, but what poor soul would stand the taste of hydrastis and myrrh... i would like to hear how this goes neelam - good luck! Lizzie Lizzie Foulon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 HI Neelam, I wonder if the dry cough and the tongue ulcer are connected? I know it's a long shot but has she got gastric reflux or could this be contributing? I know the acid would have to be refluxing a long way to affect the base of her tongue. I have had a number of pts with undiagnosed chronic coughs, that haven't responded to any orthodox measures whose coughs have eased once digestive problems have been addressed. Mucilaginous herbs like Althea, Plantago and Ulmus have had a key role in treatment - along side constitutional treatment of course. Another herb which might be worth looking at is Viola odorata, topical application for mouth ulcers and indicated for treatment of oral cancers (Bartram). It's also good for chronic coughs. Re: your question about herb/drug contraindications, I've just bought " Herb contraindications and drug interactions " by Francis Brinker ND, Third Ed, ISBN 1-888483-11-3. I also use the publication by Tieroana Low Dog, MD, published by Proline Botanicals and also Mills and Bone " Principles and Practice of Phytotherapy " . I'd be really interested to hear any reviews of Mills and Bones book on drug interactions. With regards Sue Salmon chronic tongue ulcer Dear all, I have a patient coming to see me in a weeks time regarding a chronic ulcer which has eroded part of her tongue (the base of tongue). Onset in 2000, surgery performed to remove affected area (Left side). Ulcer is still present and is proliferative. . Her GP fears that it may turn malignant and has proposed surgery in 2 months time. Has a dry cough practically every morning. The patient is under a lot of stress and would try anything to avoid surgery. I have warned her that the prospect of surgery may be inevitable, however we have 2 months to try and achieve some progress. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to treat this? Ideas of topical applications? What would the prognosis be with a case like this? Many thanks Neelam P.S what is the best source for herb/drug interactions & herb contraindications?? List Owner Graham White, MNIMH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 D'ont loose heart, I am sure every practitioner has suffered from this at some time, and will probably continue to do so! Occupational hazard - counteracted by most of the patients being really committed. Tina.Alder. NEELAM DASWANI wrote: Thanks Sue and to everyone for their wonderful suggestions...unfortunately just got a call this morning saying that this pt (who im supposed to see on sat) cancelled - after I went and ordered a whole lot of specific tintures!!! Still trying to remain optimistic :-( Neelam --------------------------------- BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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