Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 , I'm not Dr. JM, but my Allie had " moderate " IgG to wheat gluten. We did gfcf for 1.5 yrs (wonderful results), then began an enzyme and allowed her to eat what she wanted, as she was *very* (and still is) restrictive eater. I just got new testing back that showed wheat gluten to be a " rotatable " food, but now there is a high rice IgG. The thing is, Allie rarely ate any gfcf substitute. She won't eat rice for nothing. I did check her enzymes and they have " rice bran " as an ingred. I'm wondering if the enzyme was what contributed to the IgG to rice. As far as the enzymes, they do seem to prevent Allie from appearing spacey, but now I'm wondering if I'm seeing a delayed reaction from rice issues, lol. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 I use IgG readings to ascertain what a child has been eating, and if any milk, casein, wheat, rye, barley or oats show up it just means they have not eliminated those things from their diet. Many foods cross-react; rice may have something in it that is in another food she's intolerant to. Actually there is NO test that can tell you it's OK for kids to eat these large peptides. I personally believe a combination of restricted diet plus enzymes to catch the rest is the best way to go as long as our kids are still showing autistic tendencies. Restricted eating is often one of the signs of ongoing gut inflammation, as the child is fearful of eating something that might hurt their gut, and they stick with the few things they are familiar with. Dr. JM Re: Food IgG vs. IgE confusion - Dr. JM? > , I'm not Dr. JM, but my Allie had " moderate " IgG to wheat > gluten. We did gfcf for 1.5 yrs (wonderful results), then began an > enzyme and allowed her to eat what she wanted, as she was *very* > (and still is) restrictive eater. I just got new testing back that > showed wheat gluten to be a " rotatable " food, but now there is a > high rice IgG. The thing is, Allie rarely ate any gfcf substitute. > She won't eat rice for nothing. I did check her enzymes and they > have " rice bran " as an ingred. I'm wondering if the enzyme was what > contributed to the IgG to rice. > > As far as the enzymes, they do seem to prevent Allie from appearing > spacey, but now I'm wondering if I'm seeing a delayed reaction from > rice issues, lol. > > Debi > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Enzymes help for IgG reactions, though removal of offending food at first followed by rotation is best and then supplementing with enzymes. IgE is a " true allergy " and should be avoided completely; some IgE allergies such as peanuts and eggs can last for a lifetime, while most are gradually outgrown. I do not know about Bioset; I think for IgG only, but someone (like Ann) would know about that. IgG indicates an enflamed gut, and as the gut gets better, these reactions go away or sometimes get replaced by some other food reaction. The IgG test should be repeated every 4-6 months for best treatment of gut inflammation. Dr. JM Food IgG vs. IgE confusion - Dr. JM? > I have food panel (IgG and IgE) results for both my kids (they are > virtually identical). Here's my question: do enzymes like Houston's > and Kirkman's help with IgG reactions, or IgE reactions, or both? I've > read about various allergy treatments on yahoo groups, e.g. NAET, > bioset, etc. Do these work (at all) for IgG or IgE reactions, or both? > Are the IgG reactions really a sign that the gut is inflamed, and once > the gut is healed, these reactions will go away? Are allergy shots > effective for either type? Can a food that causes an IgE reaction be > given every 3-4 days? > > Thanks! > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Dear Dr. JM, My son has been gf/cf/sf and sugar free for over a year. 8 months into the diet we had a SAGE test done. It showed that he was allergic to wheat, cow's milk, rye, barley, red snapper, sesame, avacado, watermelon, carrots, string beans, beef, and soy. So does this mean that he is having infractions in his diet? We don't even have rye in the house and he has never even had red snapper, avacado,watermelon or string beans. I am in constant control over what he eats and he doesn't go anywhere without my supervision. so how can we say these things have not been eliminated from his diet? We have tried enzymes and he projectile vomits with those so we are very strict in our house about crumbs etc. Can you help clear up this concern for me? Thank You, Suzie Re: Food IgG vs. IgE confusion - Dr. JM? > > > > , I'm not Dr. JM, but my Allie had " moderate " IgG to wheat > > gluten. We did gfcf for 1.5 yrs (wonderful results), then began an > > enzyme and allowed her to eat what she wanted, as she was *very* > > (and still is) restrictive eater. I just got new testing back that > > showed wheat gluten to be a " rotatable " food, but now there is a > > high rice IgG. The thing is, Allie rarely ate any gfcf substitute. > > She won't eat rice for nothing. I did check her enzymes and they > > have " rice bran " as an ingred. I'm wondering if the enzyme was what > > contributed to the IgG to rice. > > > > As far as the enzymes, they do seem to prevent Allie from appearing > > spacey, but now I'm wondering if I'm seeing a delayed reaction from > > rice issues, lol. > > > > Debi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 The IgG hypersensitivities are not allergies - they are foods that the gut has become sensitive to, causing inflammation. When removed for a time and rotated, the gut usually recovers from that particular sensitivity, but can develop new ones. A variety of food intake helps prevent this situation. Our children are so picky and insist on eating the same foods, and the gut reacts. There are many cross-reactivities, where a food with certain molecular structures similar to the one they have become sensitive to will show up with a reaction. I understand that this is confusing, as parents say they've never given that food. The IgE test is a true allergy, and these foods have to be carefully avoided, as some food allergies such as milk, peanuts, and sea food (particularly shellfish) can last a lifetime. Usually childhood allergies are outgrown, but not always. As to the milk and wheat, yes, anytime the IgG is positive for these or soy (the large peptides) it is evidence that it is getting into the diet, and until parents learn to read ingredients carefully, this will continue to happen. When these show positive for parents who say they are strict, I have them investigate carefully whether a caretaker or relative who believes that " a little bit will not hurt " is getting something to them. Sometimes kids exchange food at lunches, or snacks at school are actually " swiped " by these kids. Strict surveillance will definitely eradicate these positive reactions, so you have to become a sleuth sometimes to find out where it may be coming into your child's diet. You might get onto a GF/CF list where you can find out some of the ways ingredients can be hiding these offenders. Enzymes can only break them down a certain extent; gluten, casein, soy and often corn too must be avoided until the gut inflammation is healed. As healing starts, enzymes can definitely be a help in the transition to a more regular diet, but basically these kids will always do better without milk and the large peptides. Dr. JM Re: Food IgG vs. IgE confusion - Dr. JM? > > > > > > > , I'm not Dr. JM, but my Allie had " moderate " IgG to wheat > > > gluten. We did gfcf for 1.5 yrs (wonderful results), then began an > > > enzyme and allowed her to eat what she wanted, as she was *very* > > > (and still is) restrictive eater. I just got new testing back that > > > showed wheat gluten to be a " rotatable " food, but now there is a > > > high rice IgG. The thing is, Allie rarely ate any gfcf substitute. > > > She won't eat rice for nothing. I did check her enzymes and they > > > have " rice bran " as an ingred. I'm wondering if the enzyme was what > > > contributed to the IgG to rice. > > > > > > As far as the enzymes, they do seem to prevent Allie from appearing > > > spacey, but now I'm wondering if I'm seeing a delayed reaction from > > > rice issues, lol. > > > > > > Debi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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