Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Welcome JD,,,,Ask away! Everyone here is very helpful and supportive. I am a 48 yr old female with cirrhosis caused by alcoholic hepatitis. I stopped drinking before they found my cirrhosis but I quit because I was so very sick that I knew I had to. My story is on here somewhere. I am in the process of getting on the list for a transplant and that is going well. What do her Dr's say as far as treatment or prognosis? Is she having any trouble not drinking? Are the people around her supportive? Do they think she might be a good candidate for a transplant? How is she doing otherwise since her hospital stay? Hang in there.....it can be a very long road and don't forget to take care of YOURSELF too! Merry Christmas, > > Hi! Everyone I'm JD. A caregiver. A bit overwhelmed but getting used > to it. My wife was just diagnosed with liver cirrhosis Nov 4/07. One > week later she was rushed to the hospital with Jaundice, > Assties,Fitgiue etc. For me it wasn't really a shock. The family tried > for years & myself to tell her she had a drinking problem but I'm sure > you guys know the story. ( Denial ) She couldn't believe it. Advanced > 3rd. stage. Irrecoverable. If you could answer some questions that i > have it would be greatly appreciated. I have read a great deal on the > net & found some very interesting reading. After all I would like two > know what the heck those Doctors are taking about when they drop those > big names. I have been also reading about loving, caring people like > yourself helping, guiding others in there time of need. Almost like > little Angles from above. I'm looking forward to hearing from you all. > Thank you & have a very Merry-Christmas Sincerely JD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hi, JD. My name is Bobby Aragon. I live in Denver, Colo. I have alhoholic cirrhosis. My best friend died last August from alcoholic cirrhosis, so I am living this horrible disease from two perspectives. I was the beer provider for my loved one after she became too ill to drive, and then too ill to walk. After she became so sick that alcohol meant less to her than living, she did manage to stay dry long enough to get her to a hepatologist for a transplant evaluation, but she was found unsuitable as a candidate, and we found a hospice for her. At least she was warm safe , and she died clean, with people who loved her by her side. I on the other hand am fighting for my life. I have been sober since 9-15-06. I want to be like , and get on the list, and our friend Aimee, who got a fresh liver. I have stage 4 cirrhosis, with several complications which are not the usual ones. In a separate post, I will post a glossery of some of those big words. Thanks for joining.Welcome to the group. Bobby Alcoholic Chirrosis Hi! Everyone I'm JD. A caregiver. A bit overwhelmed but getting used to it. My wife was just diagnosed with liver cirrhosis Nov 4/07. One week later she was rushed to the hospital with Jaundice, Assties,Fitgiue etc. For me it wasn't really a shock. The family tried for years & myself to tell her she had a drinking problem but I'm sure you guys know the story. ( Denial ) She couldn't believe it. Advanced 3rd. stage. Irrecoverable. If you could answer some questions that i have it would be greatly appreciated. I have read a great deal on the net & found some very interesting reading. After all I would like two know what the heck those Doctors are taking about when they drop those big names. I have been also reading about loving, caring people like yourself helping, guiding others in there time of need. Almost like little Angles from above. I'm looking forward to hearing from you all. 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 > > Hi, JD. My name is Bobby Aragon. I live in Denver, Colo. I have alhoholic cirrhosis. My best friend died last August from alcoholic cirrhosis, so I am living this horrible disease from two perspectives. I was the beer provider for my loved one after she became too ill to drive, and then too ill to walk. After she became so sick that alcohol meant less to her than living, she did manage to stay dry long enough to get her to a hepatologist for a transplant evaluation, but she was found unsuitable as a candidate, and we found a hospice for her. At least she was warm safe , and she died clean, with people who loved her by her side. I on the other hand am fighting for my life. I have been sober since 9-15-06. I want to be like , and get on the list, and our friend Aimee, who got a fresh liver. I have stage 4 cirrhosis, with several complications which are not the usual ones. In a separate post, I will post a glossery of some of those big words. Thanks > for joining.Welcome to the group. Bobby > Thanks Bobby for your replay. I'm from Canada the great white north! My wife is 56 years old. Married 38 yrs and yes to the same women! When the doctor first told us about her condition he said stop drinking & immediately she did. I was amazed, no withdrawal no nothing don't figure. She really abused alcohol ( whiskey ) straight, and more so in the last 3years. Never drunk or intoxicated. Some of my questions would be what would I look for in the coming months, the hospital took out 6 Liters of fluid when she was there. She is on three diacritics a day plus a Laxative for toxic. I am keeping a daily record on what Meds she takes & her symptoms. I have been reading about a book called " The first year with Cirrhosis " have you heard of it, any good. Or shall I just stick to life's lessons. I'm looking so forward to the many discussions with you all. Bobby when where you first diagnosed. Thanks again JD > Alcoholic Chirrosis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! Everyone I'm JD. A caregiver. A bit overwhelmed but getting used > > to it. My wife was just diagnosed with liver cirrhosis Nov 4/07. One > > week later she was rushed to the hospital with Jaundice, > > Assties,Fitgiue etc. For me it wasn't really a shock. The family tried > > for years & myself to tell her she had a drinking problem but I'm sure > > you guys know the story. ( Denial ) She couldn't believe it. Advanced > > 3rd. stage. Irrecoverable. If you could answer some questions that i > > have it would be greatly appreciated. I have read a great deal on the > > net & found some very interesting reading. After all I would like two > > know what the heck those Doctors are taking about when they drop those > > big names. I have been also reading about loving, caring people like > > yourself helping, guiding others in there time of need. Almost like > > little Angles from above. 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 > > > > Hi! Everyone I'm JD. A caregiver. A bit overwhelmed but getting used > > to it. My wife was just diagnosed with liver cirrhosis Nov 4/07. One > > week later she was rushed to the hospital with Jaundice, > > Assties,Fitgiue etc. For me it wasn't really a shock. The family tried > > for years & myself to tell her she had a drinking problem but I'm sure > > you guys know the story. ( Denial ) She couldn't believe it. Advanced > > 3rd. stage. Irrecoverable. If you could answer some questions that i > > have it would be greatly appreciated. I have read a great deal on the > > net & found some very interesting reading. After all I would like two > > know what the heck those Doctors are taking about when they drop those > > big names. I have been also reading about loving, caring people like > > yourself helping, guiding others in there time of need. Almost like > > little Angles from above. I'm looking forward to hearing from you all. > > Thank you & have a very Merry-Christmas Sincerely JD > > > Hi, thank you for your replay. I'm a young 60 yr old male & my wife for life is 56. She stopped drinking as soon as the Doctor said to. No withdrawal no nothing, I don't understand that. Lucky or what. It's funny but when we went to the Doctor's office in Nov. for the results 30' from him he said OH! my God you need to go to the emerg (jaundice) and while he made the arrangements she sat up from the table and said to me " I told you so I told you so " it still haunts me today. I guess she heard me all those years. We are seeing a specialist in February about treatment & I guess a prognosis. Any comments on the latter. I to asked about a transplant but the doc said she's not there yet. good news with that I guess. It is so nice to have friends here for support. This for me is the first time I have ever been on a site like this & all ready I'm feeling the love. Thank you ever so much JD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 JD, that sounds familiar to me. The Dr's initial reaction. I was very jaundiced, very sick and went straight to the ER. I asked my husband to take me one morning after being very ill off and on for the past year or more and wasn't getting any better after a 5 day stint in front of the toilet dry heaving. I had not been drinking for months. I wanted to head down to Loma Hospital, one of the best in the LA area as I hadn't been getting any help where I live about 45 miles away. I was admitted and worked up good. I too was curious about transplant at the time and they didn't want to discuss it quite yet. It is a huge ordeal to get listed and they probably want to get her stabilized and watch her for a little while. The fact that she isn't still IN the hospital tells you something. Do you happen to know what her MELD score is? Have you learned about that yet? It is a combination of her blood values, specifically her Bilirubin, INR and Creatinine. And a score they come up with. We can post more about it if you don't know what it is. I have a blog that I started the day I went to the transplant unit but it has some history of my hospital stay and events leading up to it….Lots of stuff about what I have gone through to get listed……(I am NOT officially on the list yet…close but not yet) the site is www.reallife-withus.blogspot.com if you would like to read it. You can start at the beginning by going to the lower left side in archives and start at the bottom. I am busy cleaning and getting ready for our Christmas company which I am not sure I am happy about but I did invite them. We will have a houseful and I am actually grateful. You never know if it is your last one….. Merry merry, … > > Hi! Everyone I'm JD. A caregiver. A bit overwhelmed but getting used > to it. My wife was just diagnosed with liver cirrhosis Nov 4/07. One > week later she was rushed to the hospital with Jaundice, > Assties,Fitgiue etc. For me it wasn't really a shock. The family tried > for years & myself to tell her she had a drinking problem but I'm sure > you guys know the story. ( Denial ) She couldn't believe it. Advanced > 3rd. stage. Irrecoverable. If you could answer some questions that i > have it would be greatly appreciated. I have read a great deal on the > net & found some very interesting reading. After all I would like two > know what the heck those Doctors are taking about when they drop those > big names. I have been also reading about loving, caring people like > yourself helping, guiding others in there time of need. Almost like > little Angles from above. I'm looking forward to hearing from you all. > Thank you & have a very Merry-Christmas Sincerely JD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hi JD, Welcome to our group. I am Jan, a 64 year old female in Arizona. I have advanced cirrhosis of unknown cause but not sure which stage I am in, probably 4. Because of other medical problems and the low availability of transplantable organs, I do not qualify for a transplant here in Arizona. I was diagnosed about 6 years ago, stayed pretty stable until recently. I had pancreatitis followed by gall bladder surgery in February and I think that set it off. I know you will get a lot of help here, and the opportunity to vent when you need to do that. Jan H > JD, that sounds familiar to me. The Dr's initial reaction. I was > very jaundiced, very sick and went straight to the ER. I asked my > husband to take me one morning after being very ill off and on for the > past year or more and wasn't getting any better after a 5 day stint in > front of the toilet dry heaving. I had not been drinking for months. > I wanted to head down to Loma Hospital, one of the best in the LA > area as I hadn't been getting any help where I live about 45 miles > away. I was admitted and worked up good. I too was curious about > transplant at the time and they didn't want to discuss it quite yet. > It is a huge ordeal to get listed and they probably want to get her > stabilized and watch her for a little while. The fact that she isn't > still IN the hospital tells you something. > > Do you happen to know what her MELD score is? Have you learned about > that yet? It is a combination of her blood values, specifically her > Bilirubin, INR and Creatinine. And a score they come up with. We can > post more about it if you don't know what it is. > > I have a blog that I started the day I went to the transplant unit but > it has some history of my hospital stay and events leading up to > it….Lots of stuff about what I have gone through to get listed……(I am > NOT officially on the list yet…close but not yet) the site is > www.reallife-withus.blogspot.com if you would like to read it. You > can start at the beginning by going to the lower left side in archives > and start at the bottom. > > I am busy cleaning and getting ready for our Christmas company which I > am not sure I am happy about but I did invite them. We will have a > houseful and I am actually grateful. You never know if it is your last > one….. > > Merry merry, … > > > > > > Hi! Everyone I'm JD. A caregiver. A bit overwhelmed but getting used > > to it. My wife was just diagnosed with liver cirrhosis Nov 4/07. One > > week later she was rushed to the hospital with Jaundice, > > Assties,Fitgiue etc. For me it wasn't really a shock. The family tried > > for years & myself to tell her she had a drinking problem but I'm sure > > you guys know the story. ( Denial ) She couldn't believe it. Advanced > > 3rd. stage. Irrecoverable. If you could answer some questions that i > > have it would be greatly appreciated. I have read a great deal on the > > net & found some very interesting reading. After all I would like two > > know what the heck those Doctors are taking about when they drop those > > big names. I have been also reading about loving, caring people like > > yourself helping, guiding others in there time of need. Almost like > > little Angles from above. I'm looking forward to hearing from you all. > > Thank you & have a very Merry-Christmas Sincerely JD > > > > > -- Jan H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 > > > > Hi! Everyone I'm JD. A caregiver. A bit overwhelmed but getting used > > to it. My wife was just diagnosed with liver cirrhosis Nov 4/07. One > > week later she was rushed to the hospital with Jaundice, > > Assties,Fitgiue etc. For me it wasn't really a shock. The family tried > > for years & myself to tell her she had a drinking problem but I'm sure > > you guys know the story. ( Denial ) She couldn't believe it. Advanced > > 3rd. stage. Irrecoverable. If you could answer some questions that i > > have it would be greatly appreciated. I have read a great deal on the > > net & found some very interesting reading. After all I would like two > > know what the heck those Doctors are taking about when they drop those > > big names. I have been also reading about loving, caring people like > > yourself helping, guiding others in there time of need. Almost like > > little Angles from above. I'm looking forward to hearing from you all. > > Thank you & have a very Merry-Christmas Sincerely JD > > > Thanks for the info and yes I have heard about the MELD scores. At this time i haven't asked about it ill wait until we see the specialist & then I will ask. Thanks again. Please have a happy, safe Merry Christmas to you & your Family. JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 > > > > > > Hi! Everyone I'm JD. A caregiver. A bit overwhelmed but getting used > > > to it. My wife was just diagnosed with liver cirrhosis Nov 4/07. One > > > week later she was rushed to the hospital with Jaundice, > > > Assties,Fitgiue etc. For me it wasn't really a shock. The family tried > > > for years & myself to tell her she had a drinking problem but I'm sure > > > you guys know the story. ( Denial ) She couldn't believe it. Advanced > > > 3rd. stage. Irrecoverable. If you could answer some questions that i > > > have it would be greatly appreciated. I have read a great deal on the > > > net & found some very interesting reading. After all I would like two > > > know what the heck those Doctors are taking about when they drop those > > > big names. I have been also reading about loving, caring people like > > > yourself helping, guiding others in there time of need. Almost like > > > little Angles from above. I'm looking forward to hearing from you all. > > > Thank you & have a very Merry-Christmas Sincerely JD > > > > > > > Thank Jan for your response. I see you have fought this decease for quit sometime God bless you > > > > > > -- > Jan H > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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