Re: re: NIMH, HM earnings , SSR

[Guest guest]

Dear

The questionaire results show that only 4.3 % can afford £1000 for reg,

NIMH fees and insurance combined and only 17.7% if they amounted to £700.

Hope this helps answer some of your queries. Chris

Caton, MNIMH

chris@...

re: NIMH, HM earnings , SSR

>

>

> Hello all, well, i'm going to lurk for a while now i think. Having had no

> reply other than deathly silence as to what assessment has been made of

our

> ability to pay for SSR, prof membership and EHPA, I take that to confirm

> there has been no such thing. Thats a bit of a worry. Thank you to the

> deluge of herbalists who contacted me offline to share their thoughts and

> concerns and, give details of their work patterns and earnings.

> This anecdotal evidence seems to confirm what i was once told, that only

25%

> are earning any sort of living from herbal medicine. So, and bearing in

mind

> maths never was a strong subject of mine, it appears maybe 25% can pay the

> £900-£1000....but i really don't see where that leaves the other

> 75%....having to give up completely i expect.And then i don't see how 25%

of

> the membership carry the cost....obviously they will then have to pay

£4000

> a year.

> I am not necessarily anti SSR at all, but have great concerns about the

> logistics involved.

> I am somewhat disquietened and rather dissillusioned by the fact that

no-one

> in the position to do so, has answered my question. It would appear

" awkward

> questions " are probably given the silent treatment.

> with love

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

oh?!........oh (smaller voice this time)....off to throw self off cliff, as

will save time later. Did the questionaire clarify just how much per jar

that " jam tomorrow " was?

love

>

>Reply-To: ukherbal-list

>To: <ukherbal-list >

>Subject: Re: re: NIMH, HM earnings , SSR

>Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:50:14 -0000

>

>Dear

>The questionaire results show that only 4.3 % can afford £1000 for reg,

>NIMH fees and insurance combined and only 17.7% if they amounted to £700.

>Hope this helps answer some of your queries. Chris

>Caton, MNIMH

>chris@...

> re: NIMH, HM earnings , SSR

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hello all, well, i'm going to lurk for a while now i think. Having had

>no

> > reply other than deathly silence as to what assessment has been made of

>our

> > ability to pay for SSR, prof membership and EHPA, I take that to confirm

> > there has been no such thing. Thats a bit of a worry. Thank you to the

> > deluge of herbalists who contacted me offline to share their thoughts

>and

> > concerns and, give details of their work patterns and earnings.

> > This anecdotal evidence seems to confirm what i was once told, that only

>25%

> > are earning any sort of living from herbal medicine. So, and bearing in

>mind

> > maths never was a strong subject of mine, it appears maybe 25% can pay

>the

> > £900-£1000....but i really don't see where that leaves the other

> > 75%....having to give up completely i expect.And then i don't see how

>25%

>of

> > the membership carry the cost....obviously they will then have to pay

>£4000

> > a year.

> > I am not necessarily anti SSR at all, but have great concerns about the

> > logistics involved.

> > I am somewhat disquietened and rather dissillusioned by the fact that

>no-one

> > in the position to do so, has answered my question. It would appear

> " awkward

> > questions " are probably given the silent treatment.

> > with love

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*

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> >

> > Graham White, MNIMH

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear

Following your very useful emails and letter I wanted to update you and

since this is such an important issue for us all and your email was still

outstanding I have come back to it. Following your points we have tried to

access data produced by FIH but have not succeeded as yet. We have also

voiced the need for 'assessment' of ability to pay at meetings. Thanks to

Hannah Barton who has picked a number of 'needs doing' jobs we have a

provisional questionnaire which will be forwarded to the membership

regarding this area. I would have liked to have placed it on our website to

get data quickly but of course many members are not on line or do not use

internet. We have such a high volume of 'must be done' jobs at the moment

(and will have for a long time to come I think!) Any offers from members to

undertake and complete small projects are v. enabling for the

membership/NIMH..so if any one else is willing to undertake even small

amounts of 'doing' please contact me off line. Thankyou to those who already

have!

Trudy

re: NIMH, HM earnings , SSR

>

>

> Hello all, well, i'm going to lurk for a while now i think. Having had no

> reply other than deathly silence as to what assessment has been made of

our

> ability to pay for SSR, prof membership and EHPA, I take that to confirm

> there has been no such thing. Thats a bit of a worry. Thank you to the

> deluge of herbalists who contacted me offline to share their thoughts and

> concerns and, give details of their work patterns and earnings.

> This anecdotal evidence seems to confirm what i was once told, that only

25%

> are earning any sort of living from herbal medicine. So, and bearing in

mind

> maths never was a strong subject of mine, it appears maybe 25% can pay the

> £900-£1000....but i really don't see where that leaves the other

> 75%....having to give up completely i expect.And then i don't see how 25%

of

> the membership carry the cost....obviously they will then have to pay

£4000

> a year.

> I am not necessarily anti SSR at all, but have great concerns about the

> logistics involved.

> I am somewhat disquietened and rather dissillusioned by the fact that

no-one

> in the position to do so, has answered my question. It would appear

" awkward

> questions " are probably given the silent treatment.

> with love

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*

> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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>

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> Graham White, MNIMH

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>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Trudy, I think it is good that you will be providing a

questionaire for members. It will give a truer picture of our ability to

fund SSR, and of how many people will need extra support to do so. Will you

please reply to my second written query individually still, regarding copies

of of memos/votes made at NIMH AGMS re policies relating directly or

indirectly to EHPA. You had mentioned in an early email that i could have

these. Similarly regarding copies of paperwork showing the full reports and

consultations which followed the presidential address in 1999. I had

requested these in my letter. It may be worth me putting that bit of the

address down here again

" What i need from you, from the membership, at this point is a mandate to

take this further- I emphasise this is not to take us into registration- but

to respond to the DoH that our members are willing for us to go further down

the exploratory discussion route concerning the steps, processes and

implications of potential statutory self-regulation. Full reports and

consultations will of course happen at all vital stages. Again I suggest

that this is of primary importance and I urge you to give your backing to

it "

many thanks,

>

>Reply-To: ukherbal-list

>To: <ukherbal-list >

>Subject: Re: re: NIMH, HM earnings , SSR

>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:33:24 -0000

>

>Dear

>

>Following your very useful emails and letter I wanted to update you and

>since this is such an important issue for us all and your email was still

>outstanding I have come back to it. Following your points we have tried to

>access data produced by FIH but have not succeeded as yet. We have also

>voiced the need for 'assessment' of ability to pay at meetings. Thanks to

>Hannah Barton who has picked a number of 'needs doing' jobs we have a

>provisional questionnaire which will be forwarded to the membership

>regarding this area. I would have liked to have placed it on our website to

>get data quickly but of course many members are not on line or do not use

>internet. We have such a high volume of 'must be done' jobs at the moment

>(and will have for a long time to come I think!) Any offers from members to

>undertake and complete small projects are v. enabling for the

>membership/NIMH..so if any one else is willing to undertake even small

>amounts of 'doing' please contact me off line. Thankyou to those who

>already

>have!

>

>Trudy

> re: NIMH, HM earnings , SSR

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hello all, well, i'm going to lurk for a while now i think. Having had

>no

> > reply other than deathly silence as to what assessment has been made of

>our

> > ability to pay for SSR, prof membership and EHPA, I take that to confirm

> > there has been no such thing. Thats a bit of a worry. Thank you to the

> > deluge of herbalists who contacted me offline to share their thoughts

>and

> > concerns and, give details of their work patterns and earnings.

> > This anecdotal evidence seems to confirm what i was once told, that only

>25%

> > are earning any sort of living from herbal medicine. So, and bearing in

>mind

> > maths never was a strong subject of mine, it appears maybe 25% can pay

>the

> > £900-£1000....but i really don't see where that leaves the other

> > 75%....having to give up completely i expect.And then i don't see how

>25%

>of

> > the membership carry the cost....obviously they will then have to pay

>£4000

> > a year.

> > I am not necessarily anti SSR at all, but have great concerns about the

> > logistics involved.

> > I am somewhat disquietened and rather dissillusioned by the fact that

>no-one

> > in the position to do so, has answered my question. It would appear

> " awkward

> > questions " are probably given the silent treatment.

> > with love

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

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