Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 ` Tom wrote: " I may have actually asked this question before in one form or another. But let's say you could do any job or activity in the world and suffer absolutley no restrictions whatsoever, and get paid for doing it. What would you do with your life? " My answer: My obsessions lie around wishing I could crawl into other peoples' heads and understand how they *really* feel and think. And so, I have spent most of my life devouring everything I could related to psychology, world religions, etc. I have fantasized about being an archaeologist or an anthropologist... and I've also thought I'd make a good nun- if I could then spend a lot of time meditating in isolation (I'd love being surrounded by old religious artifacts and other mystical stuff). Several years after I left the religion of my youth, I happened to buy a tarot deck just out of curiosity. And I've been hooked on the tarot ever since. I now have collected over 200 different tarot decks and just as many books on that topic. If I could do anything I wanted, I'd be a tarot reader-- but NOT the kind that predicts anyone's future or tells you what you should do. What *I* like to use the tarot for is to use the card images more as psychological triggers... to project my (or another's) own situation onto those images and see what insights can be drawn from that. As a reader, I'd like to just help facilitate other people doing this and, in so doing, be a sounding board and let them tell me their stories. I've actually done a little bit of on-line tarot reading. But unfortunately, most people want a tarot reader who presents herself as " psychic " -- someone who magically knows all the answers and who can solve their problems for them. *That's* certainly not me! LOL If I ever DID do this type of thing, though, I wouldn't ever want to be paid for doing it. For *me*, having to pay someone to take an interest in listening to me would set off all kinds of trust issues (you know, the social games and so on). ...No... I would want to form a connection with people such that they would KNOW it was based only and entirely on my sincere interest in hearing their stories. Tom wrote: " With my accumulated wealth I would be filthy rich and so I would assist Inger in building her Aspie community for all of us to live in. EVERYONE would be invited to join! " Me: Okay, but with all your wealth, would you also be willing to support *my* psychology/tarot work too? (lol) ---- Really though, this " Aspie community " you mention, here, sounds very interesting. Inger, tell me more about the community you'd build. What would it be like? Tom: " And we'd all live happily ever after! " Me: Yay!! I'd vote for that. Tom, you post such interesting questions for the group... Thanks! -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Tom wrote: " I may have actually asked this question before in one form or another. But let's say you could do any job or activity in the world and suffer absolutley no restrictions whatsoever, and get paid for doing it. What would you do with your life? " : > My obsessions lie around wishing I could crawl into other peoples' heads > and understand how they *really* feel and think. Great thing about hanging aroud with Aspies is that us you only have to ask and we'll give an *honest* reply. With those who are more inclined to give a polite answer than the truth, the whole truth and nothing but, it can be a lot trickier figuring out what they *really* think. > And so, I have spent most of my life devouring everything I could related > to psychology, world religions, etc. Cool! > I have fantasized about being an archaeologist or an anthropologist... and I've also thought I'd make a good nun- if I could then spend a lot of time meditating in isolation (I'd love being surrounded by old religious artifacts and other mystical stuff). Sounds like good Aspie jobs all of them. :-) I too have felt attracted to the beauty and simplicity of the monastic life, although I think it may be just a litte bit *too* austere and monotonous even for my Spartan tastes. > Several years after I left the religion of my youth, I happened to buy a tarot deck just out of curiosity. And I've been hooked on the tarot ever since. I now have collected over 200 different tarot decks and just as many books on that topic. If I could do anything I wanted, I'd be a tarot reader-- but NOT the kind that predicts anyone's future or tells you what you should do. What *I* like to use the tarot for is to use the card images more as psychological triggers... to project my (or another's) own situation onto those images and see what insights can be drawn from that. As a reader, I'd like to just help facilitate other people doing this and, in so doing, be a sounding board and let them tell me their stories. That's probably what good a reader does. I've got a friend who uses them this way and helps people resolve issues within themselves, with the cards as a starting point for discussion. > I've actually done a little bit of on-line tarot reading. But unfortunately, most people want a tarot reader who presents herself as " psychic " -- someone who magically knows all the answers and who can solve their problems for them. *That's* certainly not me! LOL :-D Did you ever see the old 60's film called something like " The 7 faces of Dr Lao " ? All he did was to reflect people's inner selves back at them and that helped solve a lot of problems, without him really doing anything except opening their eyes. > If I ever DID do this type of thing, though, I wouldn't ever want to be paid for doing it. For *me*, having to pay someone to take an interest in listening to me would set off all kinds of trust issues (you know, the social games and so on). ...No... I would want to form a connection with people such that they would KNOW it was based only and entirely on my sincere interest in hearing their stories. I totally sympathise with this. I am exactly the same way. I only help or support people out of genuuine care and interest, and could never do something like that for money. Just the thought of it feels bizarre to me. Since I am now have a meagre pension, I am lucky to be in a position where I don't have to do anything for money, and this is how I would have wanted my whole life to have been like. I've been happiest when I've worked for free, just because the project was so interesting. Tom wrote: > " With my accumulated wealth I would be filthy rich and so I would assist Inger in building her Aspie community for all of us to live in. EVERYONE would be invited to join! " Me: > Okay, but with all your wealth, would you also be willing to support *my* psychology/tarot work too? (lol) ---- You could be the group's councillor. ;-) > Really though, this " Aspie community " you mention, here, sounds very > interesting. Inger, tell me more about the community you'd build. What > would it be like? Well, I have a realistic plan and an unrealistic vision. The unrealistic visions several of us had are posted in the archives here (perhaps Tom - who has more patience than I for that sort of searches - can ferret out a link for you if I ask him nicely?) and included various visions of a whole society/city/part of the country with only Aspies. The realistic plan is to just start another Aspie " living-group " (as it is called here in Sweden) such as the one I live in now, but bigger to accomodate more Aspies. There will be a central house to gather in when we feel like being social, and a smaller private house for each member when we want to be left alone. Staff to help those who are unable to do their own shopping, cooking, cleaning, phoning, driving etc, will be chosen by us instead of forced upon us, and shared by more of us than is usually the case (since the current living-groups are designed for more low-functioning autistics). The idea is for us to be as self-sufficient as possible and use minimal help, so as to not use up more funds than necessary (everyone with an AS dx have a legal right to all the accomodations they need here). And to have the company and support of each other instead of beeing scattered all over the place to fend for ourselves. The houses would be bought and maintained by the same Antroposophical non-profit organization that provides my current house and assistant and they have already given me a preliminary go-ahead if only I can find a suitable property for this. Preferrably something that has been used for something similar and already contains lots of houses. Inger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 ` Hi Inger... I enjoyed your thoughtful comments on my post! previously I wrote: " My obsessions lie around wishing I could crawl into other peoples' heads and understand how they *really* feel and think. " you replied: " Great thing about hanging around with Aspies is that us you only have to ask and we'll give an *honest* reply. " me: Exactly! ...which is why I'm here. you wrote: " With those who are more inclined to give a polite answer than the truth, the whole truth and nothing but, it can be a lot trickier figuring out what they *really* think. " me: I agree with what you've said (above). And I've often wondered whether *this* is the source of my life-long obsession with psychology - or if I would have chosen that as an obsession anyway, regardless of being surrounded by people (whom I *should* have been able to believe and trust) constantly telling " polite " but still deceptive and destructive (IMO) " white lies " . you wrote: " Did you ever see the old 60's film called something like " The 7 faces of Dr Lao " ? All he did was to reflect people's inner selves back at them and that helped solve a lot of problems, without him really doing anything except opening their eyes. " me: Thanks for mentioning this movie, Inger. I saw this movie when it first came out (I would have only been about nine years old at the time). And while I didn't remember the storyline (or probably didn't even understand it then)-- I've always retained the memory of it as a very exotic and haunting movie. I've often thought I should see it again, to try to understand what my childhood fascination with it actually was. Your mention of it " sealed the deal " - so my husband and I went on a search, yesterday, to find it. And find it (and watch it) we did! What an interesting movie! And no wonder it haunted me as a child- I'll bet it was that Medusa-thing that scared me the most. LOL. --- This time I liked the Apollonius-character the best. What a great fortune-teller he made! (Some really memorable lines there, too.) you wrote [regarding an Aspie community]: " The realistic plan is to just start another Aspie " living-group " (as it is called here in Sweden) such as the one I live in now, but bigger to accommodate more Aspies. There will be a central house to gather in when we feel like being social, and a smaller private house for each member when we want to be left alone. Staff to help those who are unable to do their own shopping, cooking, cleaning, phoning, driving etc, will be chosen by us instead of forced upon us, and shared by more of us than is usually the case (since the current living-groups are designed for more low-functioning autistics). The idea is for us to be as self-sufficient as possible and use minimal help, so as to not use up more funds than necessary (everyone with an AS dx have a legal right to all the accommodations they need here). And to have the company and support of each other instead of being scattered all over the place to fend for ourselves. The houses would be bought and maintained by the same Antroposophical non-profit organization that provides my current house and assistant and they have already given me a preliminary go-ahead if only I can find a suitable property for this. " me: Wow, Inger. This sounds really interesting. I've never heard of this type of community before. I appreciate you taking the time to describe it for me. As a result of reading your post, I also went on a google-search, yesterday, to find out more about " anthroposophy " ... and I now have added some more books to my amazon wish list. Thanks again. And if you ever feel like saying any more about your living arrangements or related programs and experiences, I am all ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 ` wrote: " I collect tarot cards too... (snip)... I like Aleister Crowleys pack, have you heard of his (or perhaps got)? " ___ Hi , Yes, I've actually got two of Crowley's " Thoth " tarot (a standard sized one and a larger one). But I haven't yet learned how to connect with it very well. I'm not very good at connecting with the more abstract-type art. I'd *like* to learn to use it, though. Maybe someday... (I've learned that what I can't seem to wrap my mind around at one point, I can often come back to later on and do well with.) You wrote: " I like some other systems that are not quite tarot too, like Star & Gate, have you heard of this one? " Me: I own other types of " oracle " decks, too, but I love tarot the best. Eventually, I'd like to explore the " I Ching " and " runes " a little more. I've not heard of " Star & Gate " . Tell me more... -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Hi , I have one pack of tarot cards, but I have figured out how to read them. I also read palms, and predicted both of my parents death with a crystal ball, ( I don't touch those anymore, to scary). In fact if I am drunk and I am scary acurate with the cards and palms, but only really accurate if im drunk, I think my walls are down then. I temd to avoid alot of Crowleys stuff, books, cards etc, because he was heavily involved in black magic, and every time I try to research that stuff, weird things start happening. Take care Beth > " I like some other systems that are not quite tarot too, like Star & > Gate, have you heard of this one? " > > Me: > I own other types of " oracle " decks, too, but I love tarot the best. > Eventually, I'd like to explore the " I Ching " and " runes " a little more. > I've not heard of " Star & Gate " . Tell me more... > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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