Guest guest Posted August 3, 2001 Report Share Posted August 3, 2001 ***Does anyone have tricks for disguising cod liver oilso as to get it into a toddler who does not care forthe taste?*** If you can handle the smell, it works to just rub it into their skin. We do this with my autistic daughter (there is NO way we are going to get it into her mouth, 3 of us holding her down couldn't do it). I can't remember where I read this now, but I do remember it was from someone 'professional'. I think it *may* have been Kane? Anyway, has had all of the same beneficial effects this way as trying to get her to swallow it before. We do it around bedtime, put her pajamas on after, and by morning when we get her dressed, the smell is pretty much gone. She actually enjoys the massage with the oil. We do massages with coconut oil too, and she loves them. HTH! :-) rochester@...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*Click here for the best diet and nutrition information you will ever find!www.westonaprice.org~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*"Intelligence appears to be the thing that enables a man to get along without education. Education enables a man to get along without the use of his intelligence. --Albert Wiggam ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2001 Report Share Posted August 4, 2001 Can you teach him to take a swallow without breathing first? I put a spoon of oil on the back of my tongue and then a swallow (2-3 swallows if possible) of some kind of strong drink without breathing. This has finally made taking it possible for me. I do not understand how it's tolerated otherwise..... > Does anyone have tricks for disguising cod liver oil > so as to get it into a toddler who does not care for > the taste? He's not old enough to swallow gelcaps > yet. I know there are brands that are " deodorized " , > flavored, etc., but I believe that the process of > altering the oils like that takes a good deal of the > beneficial components out of the oil. > > Aubin > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2001 Report Share Posted August 4, 2001 For taking cod liver oil, squeeze one-half an oragne in a shot glass. Add the cod liver oil and stir around, Have the child gulp it down. He can pretend he is a cowboy. Tell him it will make him grow up tall and strong. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Thanks for the suggestions. He's not yet 2 years old, not quite old enough to understand that it will help him be strong and healthy and he should swallow it even if it tastes icky, so disguising it well is basically my only hope of getting him to take it for now. I don't blame him, I think the flavor is repulsive. I tried not to convey my prejudice to him, first time I offered it I tried to be enthusiastic like I was giving him a treat, he eagerly took the spoon in his mouth, and then the flavor registered and he made the yuck face. I remember taking it as a kid and kind of liking the flavor, but now - ugh. It nearly makes me gag. Aubin __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Aubin, Is honey an option? Back when I had to pretty much be a pharmacist to get supplements down my son(he's 10 now), I remember mixing honey or yogurt with CLO and chasing it with a lot of water, using one of those bulb syringes. I also found some peppermints or cinnamin mints that he could have as soon as he took it. I think the brand was ST Clair and they were strong enough to kill the taste of the CLO and he liked them anyway. Hope this helps, Ann Sorry about the font color-my daughter's been playing with the computer and I can't figure out how to get it back to the original way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 I think it is the oily feel of cod liver oil that is repulsive, which is why I hav ealways given it to my kinds in water or juice. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2001 Report Share Posted August 15, 2001 I think I would try putting a dose of honey in the mouth and then placing a dropper full in the mouth all the way and squirting the cod liver oil on the back of the tongue. It would be like sucking except only the honey is in the mouth. The oil is in the back of the mouth. If it does not hit the taste buds it is palatable. If something strong it taken in the same breath- yogurt, juice, etc., it seems to cover the rest of the taste with very little kick-back. I think anything that makes it palatable is the only chance at lifetime success. anne > Aubin, > > Is honey an option? Back when I had to pretty much be a pharmacist to get > supplements down my son(he's 10 now), I remember mixing honey or yogurt with > CLO and chasing it with a lot of water, using one of those bulb syringes. I > also found some peppermints or cinnamin mints that he could have as soon as > he took it. I think the brand was ST Clair and they were strong enough to > kill the taste of the CLO and he liked them anyway. > > Hope this helps, > Ann > Sorry about the font color-my daughter's been playing with the computer and I > can't figure out how to get it back to the original way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 Bonnie, The label only says, " Lemon flavor added. " It also says, " Premium Norwegian cod liver oil, taken from the livers of fish at the height of liver oil quantity, in winter and early spring, without the use of chemicals " or something of the sort. We really do find it very easy to take. I wonder what the emulsification process does to the other cod liver oil? Best Wishes, bonnsunrise@j uno.com cc: 08/13/01 Subject: Re: cod liver oil 03:30 PM Please respond to native-nutrit ion , What all is added to the Carlson's Lemon-Flavored Cod Liver Oil to give it the lemon flavor? I have been using Dale 's Emulsified Cod Liver Oil, orange flavor, but I really don't know if the process it goes through for emulsifying and flavoring is really that good. I do like the taste of it, but if I could find something else that seems less processed that would be good. Bonnie in NC ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 a, Kirkman Labs (www.kirkmanlabs.com) makes a CLO in soft gel form. They make supplements for autism and are contentious in their processing and ingredients. They may be more expensive, though. I haven't priced others. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 I have a very hard time taking cod liver oil, I was wondering if the capsules are OK. I know the emulsified stuff isn't the greatest - I really cannot stomach that either. I think it is all in my head though!! a Augustine I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright.I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more.I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive.I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger.I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess.I wish you enough ''Hello's" to get you through the final goodbye.--anonymous ----- Original Message ----- From: Carma Paden Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: RE: Re: Teeth White oak bark is supposed to be excellent for several things, including teeth. It is tasteless, so I sprinkle it on my kids' eggs several times a week. I know one man who was taking it for another reason, sprinkling it on food, and actually lost a filling because the enamel began to regrow on his teeth and the filling popped out because the old drilled area was filling in! An aunt of mine whose teeth were all loosening began to take it and her teeth tightened back up. Carma Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing worth knowing can be taught. - Wilde - carmapaden@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 And I've been keeping mine in the fridge as well. a Augustine I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright.I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more.I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive.I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger.I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess.I wish you enough ''Hello's" to get you through the final goodbye.--anonymous ----- Original Message ----- From: safallon@... Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Cod Liver Oil Dear , Actually, the cod liver oil (liquid) should not be kept in the fridge--only in a dark cupboard. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 Do you have the url. I can't find it with my searches. Best Regards, Ratlifficq 1495914msn ROBERT RATLIFFaim mtncurr22http://www.copernic.com search enginehttp://www.ghisler.com>windows commanderhttp://www.paltalk.com>voice/text chat<*> -----Original Message-----From: safallon@... [mailto:safallon@...]Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 10:30 PM Subject: Re: Cod Liver OilThe cod liver oil I get from Radiant Life is not rancid. The fishy smell is caused by certain proteins, not the oils. Actually, cod liver oil is relatively stable. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 * safallon@... (safallon@...) [010902 20:17]: * Subject: Re: Cod Liver Oil: > Dear , > > Actually, the cod liver oil (liquid) should not be kept in the fridge--only > in a dark cupboard. Sally If you believe the cis- bonds of the highly unsaturated EPA and DHA fatty acids cannot become trans- bonds, why keep it in the dark? --alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 , We (Radiant Life) carry the nutrient-dense, non-rancid cod liver oil that Sally gets and refers to. It comes from "the bottom of the barrel" where the richest nutrients are (1/2 tsp. = 5750 IU Vitamin A, 575 IU Vitamin D, 600 mg EPA, 575 mg DHA). These cod are caught in the far north of Norway in the most pristine waters, and the oil is also tested for mercury and other metals to ensure a toxin-free product. It is bottled in 6 week batches to ensure minimum shelf life before it reaches you. It comes in dark bottles with Vitamin E and packed with nitrogen to prevent rancidity, and it is fairly stable before opening. I know what you mean about the burping phenomenon with some cod liver oils, but that does not happen with this one. It is very mild tasting and has very little aftertaste. It comes in 8 oz. liquid (3 month supply) or 120 caps (2 month supply). You can order online at www.4radiantlife.com, or call (888) 593-8333. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2001 Report Share Posted September 5, 2001 The cis bonds in highly unsaturated fatty acids are still subject to breakdown when in contact with light, air and heat. But they do not become trans fats. In the cis bond, the two hydrogens stick out on the same side and form an electron cloud. That is where reactions take place in the cell membrane. One of the hydrogen atoms (electorn) can be broken off leaving a free radical (unpaired electron) but this is not a trans fat. In the partial hydrogenation process, one of the electrons is moved to the other side, forming the trans configuration--it is not broken off. Actually this is a very stable configuration--that is why the food processors use it. But the electron cloud is no longer there and reactions cannot occur in the cell membrane. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 Hi Carol, We recommend taking cod liver oil because it does have abundant vitamins A & D. We recommend cod liver oil as a general daily supplement in the range of 1/2 to 1 teaspoon. The company you refer to may be buying into the terror we have been told to feel of A & D, that were based on studies done with synthetic forms. I am not advocating to OD on these nutrients in any form, but with respect natural sources I have heard that toxicity involves certain uncomfortable symptoms that go away when the dosage is cut, with no lasting side effects. So the dread of A & D is yet another nutritional myth of our time, at least with respect to natural sources. But it is true that if folks want to megadose on EPA, DHA, omegas or other lesser nutrients in cod oil they should prob. find other sources without the A & D, while continuing to take their cod liver oil. In this context of your childhood memory I want to make a quick plug for the cod liver oil we carry. It actually tastes very mild, and this surprises a lot of people. " Nasty " tasting cod liver oil is a sign that the oil is rancid. It isn't easy to find a mild tasting cod liver oil today because many precautions and expensive measures need to be taken to ensure freshness. Also because it comes from the bottom of the barrel where the nutrients settle, it is only necessary to take 1/2 tsp to get over 5750 IU A and 575 IU of D, so what little taste there is, is made even easier to take when you don't have to take 2 tblsp like some other brands.... Cheers, Radiant Life (More info on the cod oil at http://www.4radiantlife.com/page8.html) > [Original Message] > From: Carol <cdentons@...> > < > > Date: 12/1/2001 2:12:34 PM > Subject: Cod Liver Oil > > Hello all: > > I still remember my mom giving me cod liver oil daily as a child in England, > oooh...nasty stuff it was! > > I subscribe to consumerlabs.com, an independent testing site for vitamins and > supplements. Their most recent report was on EPA/DHA supplements, and in the > body of the report is the quote, " Be aware that cod liver oil is not a good > substitute for fish oil supplements, because it is high in Vitamin A and D. > Because these vitamins can be toxic, make sure that you do not exceed safe > levels. " I note this because some people take high amounts of cod liver oil > to combat other physical issues. As long as you stay within recommended > dosages, you are fine, but if you are taking large doses for health reasons, > better check out other fish oils. Consumer Labs is a great place to start > (and no, I don't work for them!), as well as > http://www.tnp.com/encyclopedia/substance/126/. > > Shalom > Carol in SE Illinois > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 I subscribe also. This is a testing lab. They are not qualified to give " medical " advice. In some foreign countries relief agencies give children a one-dose shot of 100,000 mg (does it come in " sustained release " ?) every 6 months. anne > Hello all: > > I still remember my mom giving me cod liver oil daily as a child in England, > oooh...nasty stuff it was! > > I subscribe to consumerlabs.com, an independent testing site for vitamins and > supplements. Their most recent report was on EPA/DHA supplements, and in the > body of the report is the quote, " Be aware that cod liver oil is not a good > substitute for fish oil supplements, because it is high in Vitamin A and D. > Because these vitamins can be toxic, make sure that you do not exceed safe > levels. " I note this because some people take high amounts of cod liver oil > to combat other physical issues. As long as you stay within recommended > dosages, you are fine, but if you are taking large doses for health reasons, > better check out other fish oils. Consumer Labs is a great place to start > (and no, I don't work for them!), as well as > http://www.tnp.com/encyclopedia/substance/126/. > > Shalom > Carol in SE Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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