Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 Happiness & pleasure (thank you Alice and Judy), how fortunate to see the difference. I used to give a lot of priority to other people's pleasure at the cost of my own happiness - as I mistakenly thought that this was the way to " love thy neighbour " . But happiness has nothing to do with pleasure, and focusing on happiness, that of others and your own, paints a whole other picture. Happiness, to me, is more like " the awareness that you're alive and heading along the path that lies at the core of your being, whether it be joyful or painful " . And it may help, when someone asks you for pleasure, to remember that their happiness is of like kind. Even if, apparently, they don't want it. Someone told me lately: " If life is like a fire, you should give to others from the flames of your fire, but don't give away the ember. " Ember is like happiness, to me. Mette the Dane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Not me, ever, and I wonder if this is tied up with my PSSD. But some people here have overcome their depression although PSSDS remains. Kv > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: SSRIsex Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:26:57 -0000To: <SSRIsex >ReplyTo: SSRIsex Subject: Happiness Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 ....28 years now, of having this numbness. However, I don't think you would call it PSSD, since I've never taken SSRIs. Perhaps one might call it PNSD, for " Post Neuroleptic Sexual Disorder " . Thank you, Goldy, for your kind words. I have already posted the link to my story, which I have written on my YouTube channel and in my video, and I don't want to be redundant, but, for the sake of some of the newer members, and the threads difficult to find, here it is again: http://www.youtube.com/user/Kay1948 One thing I would like to say, though, is that I wouldn't want any of you to give up hope of healing from this yourselves. I think that many of you will probably heal to some degree, as I did the first time they gave me Haldol. Please take note though; that time it took 2 years before I could become sexually aroused. I remember being very happy, and relieved, when this happened. I went on to marry and have two wonderful children. My daughter was 2 yrs old when I noticed this complete numbness after spending only 3 days in the hospital. Years later I sent for my records, and, yes, it says they administered Haldol IM. Kay > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 You say you have a loss of libido and genital numbness at the age of 63? PSSD is no longer an issue for you, when you get to be that age losing your sexuality is a natural occurence. > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I highly question this assertion. There is zero scientific evidence that serotonin levels are causative in happiness or depression. There is minimal scientific evidence that there is a correlation, but correlation does not equal causation. The pharmaceutical companies would have us believe that low serotonin causes depression and raising serotonin treats depression but in fact numerous studies have suggested that in fact antidepressants may be no more effective than a placebo. Plus, serotonin levels in the brain are not easily -- or perhaps at all -- measurable (and none of us ever had our levels checked before or after we started taking SSRIs). Having one's SEX life decimated can certainly make it difficult to be happy, and I am certainly considerably more depressed NOW after 10 years of SSRIs than I ever was before, and that is largely due to the loss of orgasm and erectile dysfunction caused by prolonged SSRI use. > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > Happiness > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > ---------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 That is COMPLETELY untrue. > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 , What you probably mean to say is that you don't see women in their sixties as sexual beings, but that has nothing to do with the degree to which a " normal " sixty-something individual continues to value sexuality. Many do. And are you referring to women only? or do you also believe a man has no sexuality at 60? Your comment is ignorant and hostile. lost something of great value to her quality of life when she was a relatively young woman, and has lived a life of dignity. I appreciate her contributions to this forum, and her right to grieve what she lost. Flegel > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I think you misunderstand . It is NOT normal for a woman to be numb in her saddle area for 28 years!!! This began when I was in my 30s, a time when most women are in their sexual prime. I suggest you read my story on my You Tube channel and in my video there. Kay > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Ssris have seriously damaged our brain chemistry. My point is that we cant will ourselves to be happy, if our brains dont work properly. Re: Happiness I highly question this assertion. There is zero scientific evidence that serotonin levels are causative in happiness or depression. There is minimal scientific evidence that there is a correlation, but correlation does not equal causation. The pharmaceutical companies would have us believe that low serotonin causes depression and raising serotonin treats depression but in fact numerous studies have suggested that in fact antidepressants may be no more effective than a placebo. Plus, serotonin levels in the brain are not easily -- or perhaps at all -- measurable (and none of us ever had our levels checked before or after we started taking SSRIs). Having one's SEX life decimated can certainly make it difficult to be happy, and I am certainly considerably more depressed NOW after 10 years of SSRIs than I ever was before, and that is largely due to the loss of orgasm and erectile dysfunction caused by prolonged SSRI use. > > Its Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Humans are naturally very sexual creatures and loving relationships have real spark when the sex is good. As relationships mature it is my experience that sex can become a bit less important at times but sexual feelings would still remain high giving the relationship zest. Some older people may become less sexual but I bet it is nothing like PSSD with genital numbness and a lost of spark for the opposite sex. PSSD is unreal in my oppinion and never occurs naturally. Tom , the English singer, is seventy and still boasts about his enormous sex drive. My sex drive used to be incredible too and I reckon I still would have felt very sexy right into old age as well. Damn, this PSSD! Kv > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I am not happy, but I'm in a way content. I have everything I want because I don't want anything. PSSD is a twisted reality Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: SSRIsex Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 08:51:41 CDTTo: <SSRIsex >ReplyTo: SSRIsex Subject: RE: Re: Happiness Ssris have seriously damaged our brain chemistry. My point is that we cant will ourselves to be happy, if our brains dont work properly. Re: HappinessI highly question this assertion. There is zero scientific evidence that serotonin levels are causative in happiness or depression. There is minimal scientific evidence that there is a correlation, but correlation does not equal causation. The pharmaceutical companies would have us believe that low serotonin causes depression and raising serotonin treats depression but in fact numerous studies have suggested that in fact antidepressants may be no more effective than a placebo. Plus, serotonin levels in the brain are not easily -- or perhaps at all -- measurable (and none of us ever had our levels checked before or after we started taking SSRIs).Having one's SEX life decimated can certainly make it difficult to be happy, and I am certainly considerably more depressed NOW after 10 years of SSRIs than I ever was before, and that is largely due to the loss of orgasm and erectile dysfunction caused by prolonged SSRI use.>> Its Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Thank you, Flegel. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Not happy but not terribly concerned. No emotions. Flat. Pretty much how SSRIs made me feel and still make me feel. They took my good and bad emotions away and left me emotionless and numb (in more ways than one).To: SSRIsex Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:23 PMSubject: Re: Re: Happiness I am not happy, but I'm in a way content. I have everything I want because I don't want anything. PSSD is a twisted reality Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: SSRIsex Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 08:51:41 CDTTo: <SSRIsex >ReplyTo: SSRIsex Subject: RE: Re: Happiness Ssris have seriously damaged our brain chemistry. My point is that we cant will ourselves to be happy, if our brains dont work properly. Re: Happiness I highly question this assertion. There is zero scientific evidence that serotonin levels are causative in happiness or depression. There is minimal scientific evidence that there is a correlation, but correlation does not equal causation. The pharmaceutical companies would have us believe that low serotonin causes depression and raising serotonin treats depression but in fact numerous studies have suggested that in fact antidepressants may be no more effective than a placebo. Plus, serotonin levels in the brain are not easily -- or perhaps at all -- measurable (and none of us ever had our levels checked before or after we started taking SSRIs). Having one's SEX life decimated can certainly make it difficult to be happy, and I am certainly considerably more depressed NOW after 10 years of SSRIs than I ever was before, and that is largely due to the loss of orgasm and erectile dysfunction caused by prolonged SSRI use. > > Its Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I think I am actually the one being misunderstood. I said PSSD is NO LONGER an issue for you. I don't doubt that you had issues with it in the past, but to say you suffer from a loss of libido at the age of 63? Even if you didn't ever have PSSD this would be a natural occurence for a woman your age, you shouldn't expect for it to return at this point. I hope that cleared things up > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Flegel, I'm sure everyone values their sexuality no matter what their age is. I am refering to both men and women that lose their libido once they reach their 60's, if not earlier than that. My comment was far from being ignorant, it was purely factual. does have a right to grieve what she has lost, but at this point in her life it would be wrong to say she still suffers from a loss of libido due to SSRI's when it is actually a natural occurence due to her age. What I was saying in a nutshell was at the age of 63, whether you've suffered from PSSD or not, a loss of libido is inevitable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 It is not inevitable, . There are lots of people in their 60s and 70s who still have a libido. Whether they still have the opportunities to act on it is a different question, but the desire is there. V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 No you're not being misunderstood. You're just stubbornly repeating colossally ignorant falsehoods. It is true that as we age, libido does drop naturally from when we were younger. It is *NOT* true that we have a " loss " (as in " total loss " ) of libido by " age 63 or younger " . That's just plain false. It is also *not* true for *anybody* to have genital anaesthesia by age 63 or even any age. That is simply not a medically normal condition. Even with the natural lowering of libido, it's different for everybody: some people retain considerable libido well into their 70s and beyond. All you have to do is see all the older men with hot young trophy wives, some of whom some of them are getting pregnant. (?) *is* still suffering from PSSD -- it's just that the delta between what her " normal baseline " should be is smaller now than it was when she was younger: but her current symptoms are utterly not normal for someone her age and to suggest otherwise is astonishingly ignorant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Bollocks! I remember a woman once who took me under her wing and started taking me to all these different dance classes, and it was through her that I learnt jive, rock 'n roll, etc. She was a therapist and was quite posh, very beautiful, and very intelligent and I trusted her. She said she was 59 but my friends said, like hell, more like 65 and I think they might have been right. Anyway, you know some women say they feel that men treat them like objects because all they want is the sex, well, I began to get this feeling with her. She always spoke about how she craved for it and was always chasing men, and as she was very attractive she could have had many at around her age, but she didn't fancy them, she liked her men younger. One day she invited me around her house for me to play my wacky music (dance, rave, experimental pop music, and other crazy stuff) and I jumped at the chance because no one likes this music except me. So she sat on her sofa in a lovely dress and listened pretending to like it, but as the evening drew on she lay further and further back on the sofa opening her legs wider and wider as she kept talking about sex. I knew what she wanted. A week later I told her that my sex drive was gone and she laughed and shouted that hers just gets stronger and stronger as she gets older. She was a therapist and I thought she would be more considerate so I ended getting really hurt by her comment. When she realised I was never going to have sex with her she soon dumped me and found another man (more her own age this time). But she was good to me in lots of ways and I remain fond of her. And through her I found this whole new social world of dancing so now I meet loads of lovely women and some really like me. F*ck this PSSD shit. Kv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 said she took haldol, which is just as bad as an ssri. Genital anesthesia is completely abnormal at any age. It doesnt occur in nature. Its caused by psych drugs damaging our nervous system. My dad is almost 63, hes a total hornball. Re: Happiness , Everyone has a different level of a libido as they age, not everyone is the same, but you have to come to reality. You aren't in your teens anymore. You stated that you never even took SSRI's? This just proves my point. Your loss of libido and sexual problems are more likely to do with your age at this point. There's no turning back for you at the age of 63. Sorry if the truth hurts > > Yes it most certainly IS still an issue!!! If you'd seen some of my prior posts you would know that it also affects my urinary system. I don't think that it is normal for a woman OF ANY AGE to be so numb in her saddle area that she cannot even tell when she needs to urinate until she gets pressure in her abdomen. ('Often leaves me aching if I don't notice soon enough.) > > Also, I have been married to a man who is near my age for almost 32 years now, and he certainly is NOT numb! Yes, he still gets horny, and I still try t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 , Everyone has a different level of a libido as they age, not everyone is the same, but you have to come to reality. You aren't in your teens anymore. You stated that you never even took SSRI's? This just proves my point. Your loss of libido and sexual problems are more likely to do with your age at this point. There's no turning back for you at the age of 63. Sorry if the truth hurts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 there is also a structural component involving the nerves. vascuular system. also a calcium to protein balance and spinal stenosis. a good chiro would help for awhile, most surgeries don't continue to help, walking in a pool helps and if you do have sacro, spinal stenosis or as a preventive that back to life product really helps.look into the root chakra work for energy component.look into enzyme therapy to help with the "wanting" of sex as the carbohydrate digestion "often clogs this area". hth Keeper RN Enzyme TherapistTo: SSRIsex From: anonymoushater27@...Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:09:03 +0000Subject: Re: Happiness , Everyone has a different level of a libido as they age, not everyone is the same, but you have to come to reality. You aren't in your teens anymore. You stated that you never even took SSRI's? This just proves my point. Your loss of libido and sexual problems are more likely to do with your age at this point. There's no turning back for you at the age of 63. Sorry if the truth hurts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 If those statistics are correct, then I think we should consider the many variables that could account for men over 40 developing erectile dysfunction. ED is often linked to drugs such as Lipitor, blood pressure medicine, and psychiatric drugs. As men age, they are often given preventative treatments, which, unfortunately leave them with unwanted side-effects. I've never heard anything about genital anesthesia on a television commercial though, have you? To tell you the truth, I've never heard any statistics about women developing any kind of sexual dysfunction when they get older. Can you site any specific studies? Kay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Have you bothered to read my story? Kay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Are there any old guys out there who have had this for a while and have successfully managed to live a happy and successful life? Guys that were able to get married despite pssd? I know there are some who got it while they were married, but anybody who has managed to find a great girl while having it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not like that, but I don't feel intense pain > > > > > > > > > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone here feel CONSISTENTLY happy? Does anyone feel like their life is overall pleasing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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