Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I would like to know too. I just saw a website in my area, an RN, CLC that has opened up a boutique and is offering consultations. I don’t get how that is OK. Take a five day course and take a test and BAM, you can be an LC!June , RN, IBCLC From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:27 PMTo: Subject: lactation " professionals " Can someone please clarify for me what the parameters are for the CLC and the CLEC? Tow, IBCLCNo virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2101/4643 - Release Date: 11/27/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Don't get me started... it makes me want to scream. and sometimes i do. Beebe, M.Ed., IBCLC Lactation Consultant/Postpartum Doula www.second9months.comwww.facebook.com/thesecond9months.--- Subject: RE: lactation "professionals"To: Date: Sunday, November 27, 2011, 6:52 PM I would like to know too. I just saw a website in my area, an RN, CLC that has opened up a boutique and is offering consultations. I don’t get how that is OK. Take a five day course and take a test and BAM, you can be an LC!June , RN, IBCLC From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:27 PMTo: Subject: lactation "professionals" Can someone please clarify for me what the parameters are for the CLC and the CLEC? Tow, IBCLCNo virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2101/4643 - Release Date: 11/27/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 This is why we need licensure which ties the legal practice of lactation consulting to the IBCLC requirements. No one outside of our own community of professionals knows the difference between all of the many lactation certifications out there, including sometimes those that actually hold them. The well intentioned person who wants to help mothers and takes a course advertised to certify them as a lactation consultant may have no clue what they do not know or know about the IBCLC. More importantly, the public cannot assess whether any given individual is more qualified to provide lactation services because they don’t know the backgrounds of varied certifications. Also, when the family gets poor care and reports it to their health professional or their family and friends, it makes anyone who calls themselves a lactation consultant look bad – and that is us. Licensure as proposed and advocated for, by the USLCA includes legislative language specifying the minimum requirements of the IBLCE to sit for the exam and the requirement of passing a criterion referenced exam as well. Judy Judith L. Gutowski, BA, IBCLC, RLC 135 McGrath Lane P Box 1 Hannastown, PA 15635-0001 Cell Phone Fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 In the meantime, What can we do to educate the public or confront those not in the right? June , RN, IBCLC ---- " Judith L. Gutowski " wrote: > This is why we need licensure which ties the legal practice of lactation > consulting to the IBCLC requirements. No one outside of our own community of > professionals knows the difference between all of the many lactation > certifications out there, including sometimes those that actually hold them. > The well intentioned person who wants to help mothers and takes a course > advertised to certify them as a lactation consultant may have no clue what > they do not know or know about the IBCLC. More importantly, the public > cannot assess whether any given individual is more qualified to provide > lactation services because they don't know the backgrounds of varied > certifications. Also, when the family gets poor care and reports it to their > health professional or their family and friends, it makes anyone who calls > themselves a lactation consultant look bad - and that is us. Licensure as > proposed and advocated for, by the USLCA includes legislative language > specifying the minimum requirements of the IBLCE to sit for the exam and the > requirement of passing a criterion referenced exam as well. > > > > Judy > > Judith L. Gutowski, BA, IBCLC, RLC > > 135 McGrath Lane > > P Box 1 > > Hannastown, PA 15635-0001 > > Cell Phone > > Fax > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 If you know the organization that the 'other' practicing person is affiliated with, and you can see by that organization's listed scope of practice that this person is practicing outside of it you can file a grievance. Most organizations have a grievance process. The challenge comes when people call themselves a 'lactation consultant' or what have you AND they choose to never certify. Then you have no leverage to hold them accountable to the parameter of a defined scope of practice. Any way you look at it in my mind the licensure issue would help significantly reduce the ability of other people to practice as a LC and call themselves a lactation consultant if they are not an IBCLC. > > This is why we need licensure which ties the legal practice of lactation > > consulting to the IBCLC requirements. No one outside of our own community of > > professionals knows the difference between all of the many lactation > > certifications out there, including sometimes those that actually hold them. > > The well intentioned person who wants to help mothers and takes a course > > advertised to certify them as a lactation consultant may have no clue what > > they do not know or know about the IBCLC. More importantly, the public > > cannot assess whether any given individual is more qualified to provide > > lactation services because they don't know the backgrounds of varied > > certifications. Also, when the family gets poor care and reports it to their > > health professional or their family and friends, it makes anyone who calls > > themselves a lactation consultant look bad - and that is us. Licensure as > > proposed and advocated for, by the USLCA includes legislative language > > specifying the minimum requirements of the IBLCE to sit for the exam and the > > requirement of passing a criterion referenced exam as well. > > > > > > > > Judy > > > > Judith L. Gutowski, BA, IBCLC, RLC > > > > 135 McGrath Lane > > > > P Box 1 > > > > Hannastown, PA 15635-0001 > > > > Cell Phone > > > > Fax > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 http://www.healthychildren.cc/CLC.HTMHere is their scope of practice.The Certified Lactation Counselor®, (CLC) certification is the premier National Certification in Lactation Management for the United States. CLC certification holders have demonstrated competence in the lactation skills, knowledge and attitudes that are essential to helping women in the United States. The course and competencies have been evaluated by the ANCC who has approved as Nursing Skills Competencies. CLC certification means that a person has received training and competency verification in breastfeeding and human lactation support including assessing the latching and feeding process, providing corrective interventions,, counseling mothers, understanding and applying knowledge of milk production including in special circumstances and other commonly encountered situations. All of this give CLCs a strong foundation with which to help moms and babies. CLCs are members of the health care team who can provide knowledge and counseling about optimal and sub-optimal breastfeeding. CLCs understand that breastfeeding decisions are made by the mother, who may have values and goals different from the counselor. A counseling approach is used to elicit information and provide appropriate support to the mother and her family. CLCs work as part of the health care team, assuring appropriate referrals and recommendations. CLCs provide breastfeeding counseling and lactation management in: • Maternity units in hospitals and birth centers. • Neonatal intensive care units and special care nurseries. • Outpatient lactation clinics. • WIC programs. • Visiting nurse programs. • Maternal and child health services at the state, county and local level. • Parenting centers, including military family support centers. • Physician and midwife offices. Research has shown that the education required of CLCs prior to certification is associated with improved breastfeeding outcomes. Working in a variety of settings, including hospitals, WIC agencies, health departments, clinics, health care provider offices, and private practice, nationally certified CLCs are key to the US strategy of increasing breastfeeding rates in our communities, advocating for positive change in societies attitudes and behavior regarding breastfeeding, teaching breastfeeding classes, and assisting mothers to optimally breastfeed. June , RN, IBCLC From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of popikinsSent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:06 AMTo: Subject: Re: lactation " professionals " If you know the organization that the 'other' practicing person is affiliated with, and you can see by that organization's listed scope of practice that this person is practicing outside of it you can file a grievance. Most organizations have a grievance process.The challenge comes when people call themselves a 'lactation consultant' or what have you AND they choose to never certify. Then you have no leverage to hold them accountable to the parameter of a defined scope of practice.Any way you look at it in my mind the licensure issue would help significantly reduce the ability of other people to practice as a LC and call themselves a lactation consultant if they are not an IBCLC. > > This is why we need licensure which ties the legal practice of lactation> > consulting to the IBCLC requirements. No one outside of our own community of> > professionals knows the difference between all of the many lactation> > certifications out there, including sometimes those that actually hold them.> > The well intentioned person who wants to help mothers and takes a course> > advertised to certify them as a lactation consultant may have no clue what> > they do not know or know about the IBCLC. More importantly, the public> > cannot assess whether any given individual is more qualified to provide> > lactation services because they don't know the backgrounds of varied> > certifications. Also, when the family gets poor care and reports it to their> > health professional or their family and friends, it makes anyone who calls> > themselves a lactation consultant look bad - and that is us. Licensure as> > proposed and advocated for, by the USLCA includes legislative language> > specifying the minimum requirements of the IBLCE to sit for the exam and the> > requirement of passing a criterion referenced exam as well. > > > > > > > > Judy> > > > Judith L. Gutowski, BA, IBCLC, RLC> > > > 135 McGrath Lane> > > > P Box 1> > > > Hannastown, PA 15635-0001> > > > Cell Phone > > > > Fax > > > > > >>No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2101/4644 - Release Date: 11/28/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Educate everyone you come in contact with, parents and your fellow professionals. At this link you will find a document from USLCA that explains. http://www.uslcaonline.org/documents/Why%20Just%20Any%20LC%20wont%20Do/Why_J ust_Any_LC_Wont_Do.pdf Judy Judith L. Gutowski, BA, IBCLC, RLC 135 McGrath Lane P Box 1 Hannastown, PA 15635-0001 Cell Phone Fax Re: Re: lactation " professionals " In the meantime, What can we do to educate the public or confront those not in the right? June , RN, IBCLC ---- " Judith L. Gutowski " wrote: > This is why we need licensure which ties the legal practice of lactation > consulting to the IBCLC requirements. No one outside of our own community of > professionals knows the difference between all of the many lactation > certifications out there, including sometimes those that actually hold them. > The well intentioned person who wants to help mothers and takes a course > advertised to certify them as a lactation consultant may have no clue what > they do not know or know about the IBCLC. More importantly, the public > cannot assess whether any given individual is more qualified to provide > lactation services because they don't know the backgrounds of varied > certifications. Also, when the family gets poor care and reports it to their > health professional or their family and friends, it makes anyone who calls > themselves a lactation consultant look bad - and that is us. Licensure as > proposed and advocated for, by the USLCA includes legislative language > specifying the minimum requirements of the IBLCE to sit for the exam and the > requirement of passing a criterion referenced exam as well. > > > > Judy > > Judith L. Gutowski, BA, IBCLC, RLC > > 135 McGrath Lane > > P Box 1 > > Hannastown, PA 15635-0001 > > Cell Phone > > Fax > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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