myths

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Dear ,

Have you recently spoken to the Holy spirit...what did you call it? As you

wrote:

" which I'd rather call something like " the

> strange attractor of transcendent myth "

You know this how?

" When the group core becomes corrupt, tired or

> discouraged, the head moves to another group " Another revelation? No word

of being brought back to the truth? The " Holy Spirit just sluffs off the

tired and thediscouraged?

Normally in conversation we use He /She?It, but I just shorten it and

supposed others understand:

--The head would not be a person but a dynamic that

> carries a group and informs its members of their

> roles. "

You speak with such authority, I expect you have had a visit from " on high " ?

you said:

This is a lie, like all mythology. But it's truer than

> some.

..

You obviously do not understand the meaning of the word " myth " . Certainly

not as used by Jung. or anyone else in his corner.

I suggest a romp through Jung on the subject. A myth cannot be a " lie " . It

is just a human way, story, to explain an unexplainable truth that is

intuited by a mass of people in one place at one time...however long the

time, or distant the place.Particulars change over ages, but the essential

myth does not.

, go back to this " strange attractor of transcendent myth "

often know as the spirit and have it explained again. We really should all

be using the same meaning for a word as central as this, on a Jungian list.

Just to avoid misunderstandings of what the other is saying.

It is so strange to me, that everyone accuses me of declarative sentence

usage...yet it seems everyone else does too. Its OK, though.

Toni

myths

> >>I also believe the " head " of the Church is not

> head of a concrete institution,or institutions but

> the " head " of the people of G-d, a spiritual church,

> not an actual one.Known in years past as the " Mystical

> Body of Christ " <<

>

> --The head would not be a person but a dynamic that

> carries a group and informs its members of their

> roles. When the group core becomes corrupt, tired or

> discouraged, the head moves to another group. The Holy

> Spirit (which I'd rather call something like " the

> strange attractor of transcendent myth " ) appears most

> often in groups organized around formerly solitary

> individuals who were rejected from other groups. Once

> the group becomes an orthodoxy, it becomes a

> " waterless canal " and begins rejecting the unorthodox,

> who go and create new groups. Since the head of the

> church is always moving, it becomes a recombinative

> engine enabling all groups to eventually absorb the

> myth and represent it in unique ways. But it can only

> be recognized by giving up the idea that Jesus was a

> god or that one must adopt a creed. Transcendence is

> inherently creedless, a fountain of creeds that is

> loyal to none of them but offers regenerative energy

> to each.

>

> This is a lie, like all mythology. But it's truer than

> some.

>

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