Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. Tanks in advance for any insight. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I found this on the net: Morning erections are often the result of a full bladder. the distended bladder stimulates sensory nerves in the wall of the bladder. The nerve pathways then go up the spinal cord to the brain stimulating the erectile center. A full bladder can also put pressure on the adjacent prostate gland. The prostate can also send nerve impulses up the spinal cord to the erectile center of the brain. From another site: The morning erection is a physiological event related to the status of the nervous system. It is not a sexually related erection. If you happen to be in the mood, there's no harm in "taking advantage" of it. However, most people have a full bladder when they wake up in th morning. Also: Causes of Morning ErectionsIt is a common myth that morning erections are caused by a full bladder.This is untrue. While the reason for morning erections is unknown, we do know that the erections are closely associated with REM sleep (the time in the night when you dream and brain activity changes). These erections are also associated with an increase in heart rate. It isn't known for sure if the erections are a result of the other physiological changes, more research is required. One guess is that these erections are the bodies way of making sure everything is in good working order. I get them sometimes and they can be quite hard but there is no sexual feelings whatsoever. Kaivey >> I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function?> > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally gone. Just trying to figure out what this means.> > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > Joe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I have only done limited research on this, but I wanted to share this piece of personal info... By taking a Woman's Libido Supplement I have had positive results of feeling physically aroused in the morning (unfortunately not every morning!), but it only accompanies a full bladder. There are times when I have a full bladder in the morning with no arousal, and there are times when I have full bladder, arousal, but no sensation (very disappointing!!) The arousal is from the G-spot which I have read corresponds to the male prostate gland, so i find this information very interesting, and it gives me some new information to start researching. Thanks!!! > > > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator > of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and > nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go > right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have > a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally > gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > > > Joe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 (quote) "Would you be prepared to address your sexual health using a different metric to the "libido" metric you used in the past ? Ie: would you be prepared to make the switch to addressing your sexual health responses via your nocturnal and wake-up erections ? I assume your nocturnal or wake-up erections are limited, and may even be non-existent at this time, but please confirm ? Once again, limited or non-existent nocturnal or wake-up erections are a classic symptom of midrange-or-low testosterone combined with midrange-or-high estradiol.The nocturnal and wake-up erections involve the same parasympathetic nervous system and relaxation required for regular sexual activity erections, yet they are far less affected by conscious thoughts.I believe that once you modify your diet/supplements/specialized supplements and restore your testosterone to its former higher levels, and after you restore your estradiol to its former lower levels, then your desire will increase somewhat, and your nocturnal and wake-up erections will occur each morning. At that point you can then make a decision whether you want to further increase your amount of "desire" by boosting your testosterone even further - while keeping your estradiol constant." "Eg: If you were prepared to commence boosting your testosterone and lowering your estradiol via specialized supplements, obviously in conjunction with a knowledgeable medical adviser, then you would be able to experience the effects and experience what happens when the values of these hormones raise or lower slightly. Ie: once you had restored your former higher levels of testosterone, and once you had lowered your level of estradiol, then you would notice that your nocturnal erections and wake-up erections would increase in frequency and "magnitude". Then you could lower your testosterone booster specialized supplement and you could see that your frequency of nocturnal erections and wake-up erections would decrease. Similarly you could reduce your dose of specialized estradiol lowering supplement and you could see that your frequency of nocturnal erections and wake-up erections would decrease. All of us who are taking specialized testosterone boosting supplements and specialized estradiol lowering supplements have seen this, and we fine-tune our dosages using this as one of our metrics, along with labs and a few other clinical symptoms."http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?1335-Anyone-sees-anything-which-can-clearly-account-for-the-low-sex-drive-I-ve-suffered/page4 & s=3aeae45a3eacf6763fb849bf5b214a94 WARNING: Only attempt to lower estradiol (estrogen) if you have confirmed high estradiol via blood tests. http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?3262-Symptoms-of-low-and-high-estrogen-in-men >> I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function?> > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally gone. Just trying to figure out what this means.> > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > Joe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Just as a data point: I have *never* had morning erections as a common thing. Even when I was a teenager. They have *always* been very rare. And I have *never* had a wet dream either -- quite possibly because I started masturbation at a fairly young age. I am on testosterone replacement therapy now -- when I came off the SSRIs and my sexual function didn't return to normal (and 8 months later still hasn't), I started seeing a urologist who specializes in men's sexual health and he found my testosterone was 314, which is at the very low edge of normal and for a man of 50 not ideal. My testosterone was last tested at 888, which is great, and *has* improved my libido, but has not helped with the ED (which isn't helped by viagra/cialis/levitra) nor has it helped me regain a sensation of orgasm when I ejaculate (which is quite literally less pleasurable than urination or sneezing -- I feel nothing). NOR has it given me morning erections. I certainly used to have normal erections and normal orgasms, though, so I think morning erections have no correlation whatsoever to anything. They may be common for most men but they never have been part of my life. Whether I have nocturnal erections or not I have zero idea. One would presumably have to have a sleep study to do that -- I've had sleep studies in my life for OTHER reasons (insomnia etc), but they never monitored my erections. All I can say is: I used to have a perfectly normal sexual function and it did NOT correlate with morning erections. So I would not recommend using that as a metric. > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > Joe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Hm I thought I had already replied to this BUT here goes again. I would recommend against using that as a metric. Even when I was a teenager or in my 20s, I *never* had morning erections as a regular thing. They have always been *extremely* rare for me. Of course I never had my testosterone checked back then but I certainly had a completely normal sexual function in those days. So I think that is proof that there is no correlation between healthy sexual function and morning erections. Some men get them, some don't. Over the course of time I was on SSRIs (10 years) I slowly lost the ability to experience the pleasure of orgasms (an ejaculation feels like nothing at all and is *considerably* less pleasurable than, say, urinating or a sneeze) and I developed ED. 8 months after quitting celexa completely I still have the ejaculatory anhedonia and ED. When I was tested in may my testosterone was near the bottom of the " normal " range: 314. Which for a 50-year-old man is on the low side. I am on testosterone-replacement therapy and my levels are now 888, a very healthy level. That HAS increased my libido, but has done nothing to restore my ability to feel orgasms nor has it helped with the ED (nor do any of the pills). I am single so I can't consider any of the other options (injections or a prosthetic implant) for the ED. I'm honestly much more upset about the lack of orgasm as that precludes even having a SOLO sex life. Although my erections aren't adequate to achieve penetration, they are adequate to do " other things " in bed with a potential partner -- but I'm not about to scare off a potential partner with hypodermic needles or a pump in my scrotum. Even with the testosterone levels over 800 however, I *still* don't have morning erections. I don't know whether I have nighttime erections -- presumably one would have to have an overnight sleep study to discover that. I have had sleep studies in the past for insomnia but they never monitored my erections. I don't even know if insurance would cover a sleep study to monitor whether I had nighttime erections. And I don't know if I ever had them. Bottom-line: I *KNOW* I used to have normal erectile function and normal (intense) orgasms prior to the SSRIs, but I *NEVER* had regular morning erections, so i do *NOT* think you should use that as a metric. > > > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator > of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and > nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go > right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have > a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally > gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > > > Joe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Hi Have you ever tried Dhea ,Damiana or any herbs. To: SSRIsex Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:51:14 PMSubject: Re: Morning v. Nighttime erection Just as a data point: I have *never* had morning erections as a common thing. Even when I was a teenager. They have *always* been very rare. And I have *never* had a wet dream either -- quite possibly because I started masturbation at a fairly young age. I am on testosterone replacement therapy now -- when I came off the SSRIs and my sexual function didn't return to normal (and 8 months later still hasn't), I started seeing a urologist who specializes in men's sexual health and he found my testosterone was 314, which is at the very low edge of normal and for a man of 50 not ideal. My testosterone was last tested at 888, which is great, and *has* improved my libido, but has not helped with the ED (which isn't helped by viagra/cialis/levitra) nor has it helped me regain a sensation of orgasm when I ejaculate (which is quite literally less pleasurable than urination or sneezing -- I feel nothing). NOR has it given me morning erections. I certainly used to have normal erections and normal orgasms, though, so I think morning erections have no correlation whatsoever to anything. They may be common for most men but they never have been part of my life. Whether I have nocturnal erections or not I have zero idea. One would presumably have to have a sleep study to do that -- I've had sleep studies in my life for OTHER reasons (insomnia etc), but they never monitored my erections. All I can say is: I used to have a perfectly normal sexual function and it did NOT correlate with morning erections. So I would not recommend using that as a metric. > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > Joe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 No I haven't. What would the goal be in taking those? > > > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > > > Joe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I ALWAYS had morning erections prior to SSRIs. I have not had them since. Just my data point. I had T as low as 338, but through diet, exercise and zinc picolinate I got it back to ~700. Libido is close to normal, but erections sadly are not, nor are the quality of orgasms. Just my two cents. > > > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator > of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and > nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go > right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have > a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally > gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > > > Joe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 What is an " ultra-sensitive " estradiol test? I would have to go through my original test results when I first started seeing Dr Munarriz, a urologist here in Boston who specializes in sexual health (and who works with Dr Stanley Ducharme, a psychologist who has written on PSSD), to see whether he tested me for estradiol at all. Since I am on testosterone replacement therapy it probably is a good idea to ask Munarriz to test my estradiol. He does test psa regularly. I don't know what a " 4-point Cortisol salivary test " is. I've had my cortisol levels checked in the past I think, though I don't believe Munarriz did and I don't believe anybody ever tested it for any connection to sexual function. Cortisol is a stress hormone, right? I can imagine high cortisol could correlate with low libido (when we're highly anxious or stressed, sex is not uppermost in our minds), but my libido is absolutely fine. What is frustrating for me is that my libido is very high but my ability to act on it or get enjoyment out of acting on it are both compromised. Is low libido a reason to do the cortisol test? If not, what would the reason be to do that test? Cheers, > > > " All I can say is: I used to have a perfectly normal sexual function and > it did NOT correlate with morning erections. So I would not recommend > using that as a metric. " > > > But what about your estradiol level? Have you had an ultra-sensitive > estradiol (E2) serum test and 4-point Cortisol salivary test? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 , have you had an ultra-sensitive E2 estradiol serum test (most accurate for estradiol) and a 4-point Cortisol salivary test (this is the most accurate for cortisol) ? How about free testosterone and SHBG? BTW, I think its great you're going to see a top doctor in the USA such as Dr Irwin Goldstein in California. Other top doctors in the USA include Dr Romeo no in California (who used to post as nco on the mesomorphosis forum) and Dr Crisler in Michigan. In Europe, Dr no recomends Dr Thierry Hertoghe in Belgium for hormone optimization. It seems we need to see a top doctor to sort out PSSD as most doctors don't really know how to optimize our hormones. Many doctors don't even believe in PSSD! All the best, . I really hope you make good progress with Dr Goldstein. > > > > > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator > > of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > > > > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and > > nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > > > > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go > > right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have > > a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally > > gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > > > > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 The goal would be to return sexual function.To: SSRIsex Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:34:58 PMSubject: Re: Morning v. Nighttime erection No I haven't. What would the goal be in taking those? > > > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > > > Joe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Since I have low cortisol confirmed via a 4-point Cortisol salivary test and high estradiol (E2) and high testosterone, I think the following might be the answer to my problem in that it's the low pregnenolone causing the low cortisol causing the high estradiol causing the low libido, etc. (low libido is indeed a symptom of low cortisol): "* The most common reason why either E2 is high, or SHBG is high, or both E2 and SHBG are both too high, before commencing any hormone modulation therapy, is because there isn't enough cortisol floating around to downregulate T metabolism adequately (usually because of age-related-hormonal-decline of our cortisol production line), so the body has to take evasive action to reduce T metabolism. It does this either by:a) converting some of the available T into E2, because E2 downregulates T metabolism very stronglyor: upregulating SHBG, because SHBG binds to T and effectively takes it out-of-service.* When our body cranks E2 to downregulate T metabolism, the high E2 wreaks havoc with our neurotransmitter balance, in ways which ruin our erection performance. Our body produces optimum neurotransmitter balance when it synthesizes optimum amounts of cortisol via pregnenolone. HC supplementation does not restore our neurotransmitters.* Increasing cortisol downregulates our T metabolism, which reverses any previous E2 and / or SHBG excesses which our body implemented due to too low cortisol.*** While you probably think that you don't want your testosterone metabolism downregulated at all, if you don't use cortisol to do it, then your body will either:a) synthesize E2 out of your T and then your body will use the E2 to downregulate your testosterone metabolism.or: crank your SHBG to downregulate your testosterone metabolism.*** You cannot run away from downregulating your T. It must be done. And you must use cortisol to do it not E2 and not SHBG. Hence you may need your cortisol boosted to achieve this.*** Males who think that they can "beat the system" by operating at low cortisol and taking arimidex to suppress E2, or taking nettle root extract to suppress SHBG, are doing this based on insufficient knowledge of hormones, because too low cortisol means too low pregnenolone, which means too low neurotransmitters. Having too low neurotransmitters means the brain cannot coordinate the larger volume of messages resulting from increased overall metabolism, which includes the increased volume of repair messages triggered by higher T metabolism." http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?15574-How-potent-is-nettle-root-at-lowering-SHBG & s=18d63bb5d13f7c3053e7e8c11e220078 > >> > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator> of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males.> >> > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and> nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function?> >> > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go> right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have> a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally> gone. Just trying to figure out what this means.> >> > Tanks in advance for any insight.> >> > Joe> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 These links should throw light on ultra-sensitive estradiol (E2) serum test. The first three links are from Dr Crisler's forum (Dr Crisler is one of the top endocrinologists in the USA). http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?2807-Quest-Ultra-Sensitive-vs-Standard-E2-Labs http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?972-Quest-Ultra-sensitive-30289X-for-Dr.- http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?2-All-Things-Male http://questdiagnostics.com/hcp/intguide/jsp/showintguidepage.jsp?fn=EndoMetab/hcp_ig_testnameindex_Estradiol_Ultra_Sensitive.htm http://questdiagnostics.com/hcp/qtim/testMenuSearch.do Yes low libido is only one reason to do the cortisol saliva test. Low or high cortisol causes low libido and ED. But since your libido is high, maybe your cortisol is normal. Maybe you should check to see if you have some symptoms of low or high cortisol. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/low-cortisol-symptoms.html http://www.buzzle.com/articles/high-cortisol-levels-symptoms.html http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Stress_Erectile_Dysfunction.aspx For what it's worth: "1) Too low cortisol causes ED.2) Too high cortisol causes ED.3) Boosting your cortisol to optimum restores erectile performanceYou've just demonstrated statements 1) and 3).###But typically the cortisol balance is only short lived, when you have additional hormone issues, and when you only restore cortisol.Your body "steals" from many places, and when cortisol improves one body function, if you have other body functions which are out-of-balance, then your body will steal from those body processes which are in-balance to prop up those body processes which are out-of-balance.I suspect that if you repeated the test, that the results would not be successively less impressive.But after you restore balance to several of your hormones, the results will be more consistent.Once your hormones are in balance, you won't be able to get consistent "diamond cutters", but you should be able to get consistent high quality erections.After your hormones are balanced, you should be able to get an occasional "diamond cutter", by driving your hormones out-of-balance for a few days. After that you'll find that you'll get mild ED, until you're back in balance. " http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?3718-Cortisol-Erections > >> > > > "All I can say is: I used to have a perfectly normal sexual function and> > it did NOT correlate with morning erections. So I would not recommend> > using that as a metric."> > > > > > But what about your estradiol level? Have you had an ultra-sensitive> > estradiol (E2) serum test and 4-point Cortisol salivary test?> > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 The following is for you and others on TRT. It is written by Dr Crisler. There is a section on Estradiol. Dr Crisler: (quote) "I wrote this paper several years ago, and clearly needs to be updated, as my thinking has evolved much in the meantime. It's still a good starting point, though, so hopefully will be of some use to you.This report was first published in the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine Anti-Aging Clinical Protocols 2004-2005 manual.When I do sit down to update this work, it will posted here exclusively amongst message boards.http://www.allthingsmale.com/word_docs/TRT.doc " http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?34-TRT-A-Recipe-for-Success > >> > > > "All I can say is: I used to have a perfectly normal sexual function and> > it did NOT correlate with morning erections. So I would not recommend> > using that as a metric."> > > > > > But what about your estradiol level? Have you had an ultra-sensitive> > estradiol (E2) serum test and 4-point Cortisol salivary test?> > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hi Si should we take testosterone or licorice root which raises cortisol. Is low cortisol responsible for numb genitals, and skin and joyless orgasms, are you sure it's not a dopamine issue.To: SSRIsex Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:25:45 PMSubject: Re: Morning v. Nighttime erection Since I have low cortisol confirmed via a 4-point Cortisol salivary test and high estradiol (E2) and high testosterone, I think the following might be the answer to my problem in that it's the low pregnenolone causing the low cortisol causing the high estradiol causing the low libido, etc. (low libido is indeed a symptom of low cortisol): "* The most common reason why either E2 is high, or SHBG is high, or both E2 and SHBG are both too high, before commencing any hormone modulation therapy, is because there isn't enough cortisol floating around to downregulate T metabolism adequately (usually because of age-related-hormonal-decline of our cortisol production line), so the body has to take evasive action to reduce T metabolism. It does this either by:a) converting some of the available T into E2, because E2 downregulates T metabolism very stronglyor: upregulating SHBG, because SHBG binds to T and effectively takes it out-of-service.* When our body cranks E2 to downregulate T metabolism, the high E2 wreaks havoc with our neurotransmitter balance, in ways which ruin our erection performance. Our body produces optimum neurotransmitter balance when it synthesizes optimum amounts of cortisol via pregnenolone. HC supplementation does not restore our neurotransmitters.* Increasing cortisol downregulates our T metabolism, which reverses any previous E2 and / or SHBG excesses which our body implemented due to too low cortisol.*** While you probably think that you don't want your testosterone metabolism downregulated at all, if you don't use cortisol to do it, then your body will either:a) synthesize E2 out of your T and then your body will use the E2 to downregulate your testosterone metabolism.or: crank your SHBG to downregulate your testosterone metabolism.*** You cannot run away from downregulating your T. It must be done. And you must use cortisol to do it not E2 and not SHBG. Hence you may need your cortisol boosted to achieve this.*** Males who think that they can "beat the system" by operating at low cortisol and taking arimidex to suppress E2, or taking nettle root extract to suppress SHBG, are doing this based on insufficient knowledge of hormones, because too low cortisol means too low pregnenolone, which means too low neurotransmitters. Having too low neurotransmitters means the brain cannot coordinate the larger volume of messages resulting from increased overall metabolism, which includes the increased volume of repair messages triggered by higher T metabolism." http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?15574-How-potent-is-nettle-root-at-lowering-SHBG & s=18d63bb5d13f7c3053e7e8c11e220078 > >> > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator> of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males.> >> > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and> nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function?> >> > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go> right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have> a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally> gone. Just trying to figure out what this means.> >> > Tanks in advance for any insight.> >> > Joe> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 If you have low testosterone (and/or high prolactin) then it's likely you have reduced or low dopamine. Dopamine levels can be increased by increasing testosterone levels. Testosterone levels can be increased by increasing dopamine levels. Here are posts by nco on testosterone, dopamine, etc. (Dr Romeo B. no in Monterey, California is highly praised by many of his patients who some call a 'genius'): http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/great-morning-wood-but-134239458.html#post456136 http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/great-morning-wood-but-134239458.html#post456452 http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/doctors-anyone-please-testosterone-134239779.html#post459899 http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/acetylcholine-and-libido-134239817.html#post459995 http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/adrenal-thread-134240195.html Better to wait till you get the results of your comprehensive blood test. Make sure you get a 4 x Cortisol saliva test (the most accurate test for cortisol) where you put your saliva in a tube 4 times per day, so you can see what your cortisol levels are throughout the day. Cortisol should be high in the morning (but inside the lab's reference range) and it should be low late at night (but inside the lab's reference range). Cortisol levels should gradually decline throughout the day. > > >> > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good indicator> > of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males.> > >> > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and> > nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function?> > >> > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then go> > right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently have> > a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally> > gone. Just trying to figure out what this means.> > >> > > Tanks in advance for any insight.> > >> > > Joe> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Interesting, thanks. If Goldstein cannot help I'll go see no. Monterey is only 1.5 hours from where I live. > > > > > > > > I have a quick question. I know morning erections are a good > indicator > > > of healthy HPA functioning and hormone levels in males. > > > > > > > > I'm wondering if there is a differene between morning wood and > > > nighttime wood, in terms of indicating good HPA function? > > > > > > > > I usually wake up a couple times during the night briefly and then > go > > > right back to sleep. When I wake up during the night, I frequently > have > > > a pretty good erection going. But then when I wake up, it's totally > > > gone. Just trying to figure out what this means. > > > > > > > > Tanks in advance for any insight. > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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