Re: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

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You don't want to raise too quickly. 2-4 weeks is the normal time period, my doctor had me 5- 8 weeks, which probably was too much. She is already at a relatively good amount right now, I'm on 4 grains, split over three times during the day, and I only started on 4 three weeks ago, I was on 3.5 grains since last June, I started my treatments 2 years ago. Thyroid meds have to be tweaked,too much too fast can be as bad as not enough, quickly enough. My first 3-4 months on treatment, I had good hours and bad hours during the day, that was how rough my initial treatment was, but after about 4-6 months I began to level off and around 6 months I felt myself feeling pretty good. I'd also increase in smaller amounts, I was going in 1/4 grain increments, as 1/2 grain was too much @ times, although spreading

the dosage over three times during the day has helped alleviate that. If she keeps 4-5 hours between dosages, she should be good to go. good luck.JeffTo: Thyroiditis Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 9:14:42 PMSubject: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

Hi,

My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and gets relief- is it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?

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Thanks for your help, Jeff.

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> You don't want to raise too quickly. 2-4 weeks is the normal time period, my

doctor had me 5- 8 weeks, which probably was too much. She is already at a

relatively good amount right now, I'm on 4 grains, split over three times during

the day, and I only started on 4 three weeks ago, I was on 3.5 grains since last

June, I started my treatments 2 years ago. Thyroid meds have to be tweaked,too

much too fast can be as bad as not enough, quickly enough. My first 3-4 months

on treatment, I had good hours and bad hours during the day, that was how rough

my initial treatment was, but after about 4-6 months I began to level off and

around 6 months I felt myself feeling pretty good. I'd also increase in smaller

amounts, I was going in 1/4 grain increments, as 1/2 grain was too much @ times,

although spreading the dosage over three times during the day has helped

alleviate that. If she keeps 4-5 hours between dosages, she should be good to

go. good luck.

> Jeff

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> To: Thyroiditis

> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 9:14:42 PM

> Subject: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

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> Hi,

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> My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising

armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good

and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and

gets relief- is it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets

relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?

>

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Jeff,

That helps me out too as I am just on the "adjusting dose" stage...it will get better, it will get better! I am not very patient! I tried splitting up my armour dose and I could NOT sleep at night! I HAVE to take it ALL in the morning (although I KNOW this is not reccommended)...even if I take some at noon, I cannot sleep at night! I take it all at 6am. I even tried 3/4 at 6am and 1/4 at noon...couldn't sleep that night. Guess everyone is just different!

Anyway- thanks for the hope!

To: Thyroiditis From: jrufolo@...Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:23:00 -0800Subject: Re: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

You don't want to raise too quickly. 2-4 weeks is the normal time period, my doctor had me 5- 8 weeks, which probably was too much. She is already at a relatively good amount right now, I'm on 4 grains, split over three times during the day, and I only started on 4 three weeks ago, I was on 3.5 grains since last June, I started my treatments 2 years ago. Thyroid meds have to be tweaked,too much too fast can be as bad as not enough, quickly enough. My first 3-4 months on treatment, I had good hours and bad hours during the day, that was how rough my initial treatment was, but after about 4-6 months I began to level off and around 6 months I felt myself feeling pretty good. I'd also increase in smaller amounts, I was going in 1/4 grain increments, as 1/2 grain was too much @ times, although spreading the dosage over three times during the day has helped alleviate that. If she keeps 4-5 hours between dosages, she should be good to go. good luck.Jeff

From: swid441 <swid441gmail>To: Thyroiditis Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 9:14:42 PMSubject: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

Hi,My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and gets relief- is it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?

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I only raise every 5 weeks.

To: Thyroiditis From: swid441@...Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 03:14:42 +0000Subject: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

Hi,My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and gets relief- is it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?

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also don't raise by 30mg but 15mg

after being a 'treated' hypot patient for 35+ Years, _but left hypot that whole

time_ i was so sensitive and so sick (and so malnourished) that there was no way

my body could handle +30mg NTH Jumps

i took me almmost a year to titrate from all sinthroid to all-armour.

(it could have been a bit faster if i had an experienced DR) i also had

lownormal ferritin and lifelong adrenal fatigue/high cortisol

-Carol

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> Hi,

>

> My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising

armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good

and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and

gets relief- is it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets

relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?

>

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I'm trying to understand this. So if we up our med dosage does that just help us feel better but the attack is still happening against the thyroid? How do we stop the attack against the thyroid? By finding out what is causing the auto immune response like wheat? And then if one stops eating "wheat" or whatever is the cause then the attack stops?

Robyn

To: thyroiditis Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 8:58:19 AMSubject: RE: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

Jeff,That helps me out too as I am just on the "adjusting dose" stage...it will get better, it will get better! I am not very patient! I tried splitting up my armour dose and I could NOT sleep at night! I HAVE to take it ALL in the morning (although I KNOW this is not reccommended) ...even if I take some at noon, I cannot sleep at night! I take it all at 6am. I even tried 3/4 at 6am and 1/4 at noon...couldn' t sleep that night. Guess everyone is just different!Anyway- thanks for the hope!

To: Thyroiditis@ yahoogroups. comFrom: jrufoloyahoo (DOT) comDate: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:23:00 -0800Subject: Re: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

You don't want to raise too quickly. 2-4 weeks is the normal time period, my doctor had me 5- 8 weeks, which probably was too much. She is already at a relatively good amount right now, I'm on 4 grains, split over three times during the day, and I only started on 4 three weeks ago, I was on 3.5 grains since last June, I started my treatments 2 years ago. Thyroid meds have to be tweaked,too much too fast can be as bad as not enough, quickly enough. My first 3-4 months on treatment, I had good hours and bad hours during the day, that was how rough my initial treatment was, but after about 4-6 months I began to level off and around 6 months I felt myself feeling pretty good. I'd also increase in smaller amounts, I was going in 1/4 grain increments, as 1/2 grain was too much @ times, although spreading the dosage over three times during the day has helped alleviate that. If

she keeps 4-5 hours between dosages, she should be good to go. good luck.Jeff

From: swid441 <swid441gmail (DOT) com>To: Thyroiditis@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, March 3, 2010 9:14:42 PMSubject: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

Hi,My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and gets relief- is it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?

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Carol how did you address your Adrenal Fatigue ? My husband has it but low cortisol. He is taking Hydrocortisone pills.

To: Thyroiditis Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 10:34:42 AMSubject: Re: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

also don't raise by 30mg but 15mg :)after being a 'treated' hypot patient for 35+ Years, _but left hypot that whole time_ i was so sensitive and so sick (and so malnourished) that there was no way my body could handle +30mg NTH Jumps :)i took me almmost a year to titrate from all sinthroid to all-armour. (it could have been a bit faster if i had an experienced DR) i also had lownormal ferritin and lifelong adrenal fatigue/high cortisol-Carol>> Hi,> > My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and gets relief- is

it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?>

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i am Still addressing my Adreanl Fatigue (it does NOt help that the

Pharmaceutical COs who make NTH RXs keep changing their " inactive " ingredients;

for me there is no such thing.

and i do believe that for me and my hypot/hashis that i was basically born with

AF and that my SAD lifestyle and life circumstances , while not dramatic, just

added to the burden.

i believe Dr 's book: Adrenal Fatigue

is very good advice on daily lifestyle guidelines because it takes much of the

stress load off the brain => its need to stress all day every day; which hurts

more parts than just our Adrenal glands' cortisol producing zones btw!

conventional medicine writes about about things we deal with too! :

upregulated HPA Axis (google)

and

the fact that Vasopressin hormone is messed up in hypoThyroid patients. both

high and low are documented. (but the documenters ofcourse didn't believe in

Adrenal Fatiuge

++++++

Drs have simplified the meaning of Adrenal Fatigue to the point that most only

Talk* about the adrenals/cortisol ; but understanding that the brain

hypothalamus SNS and HPA axis (and all the H/P stress hormones) are a part of

this thing; actually makes it easier to understand Why many of us have the

symptoms we do =while one being HIgh cortiosl and another being low cortisol

+++++++

the guidelines that Dr WIlson describes are still relevant cuz the help

the other 'parts' and Not solely the adrenals

but all that takes Time!

a lot of time. i have only seen 1 alternative dr give a Time frame and he used

our Thryoid recovery saying he said: it takes 1 month of healing the HPA

axis for every 1 year your HPA axis was ~upregulated~ (EG = you were stuck in

Fight/flight mode

still i have seen progress and it has helped me a lot to understand which parts

are helping to cause which symptoms.

-Carol

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> > Hi,

> >

> > My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising

armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good

and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and

gets relief- is it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets

relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?

> >

>

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Thanks Carol. I do have his book! I will re-read.

Robyn

To: Thyroiditis Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 10:47:31 AMSubject: Re: Question from a Newbie on speed to Raise armour.

i am Still addressing my Adreanl Fatigue (it does NOt help that the Pharmaceutical COs who make NTH RXs keep changing their "inactive" ingredients; for me there is no such thing.and i do believe that for me and my hypot/hashis that i was basically born with AF and that my SAD lifestyle and life circumstances , while not dramatic, just added to the burden.i believe Dr 's book: Adrenal Fatigueis very good advice on daily lifestyle guidelines because it takes much of the stress load off the brain => its need to stress all day every day; which hurts more parts than just our Adrenal glands' cortisol producing zones btw!conventional medicine writes about about things we deal with too! :upregulated HPA Axis (google)and the fact that Vasopressin hormone is messed up in hypoThyroid patients. both high and low are documented. (but the documenters ofcourse didn't believe in Adrenal Fatiuge

++++++Drs have simplified the meaning of Adrenal Fatigue to the point that most only Talk* about the adrenals/cortisol ; but understanding that the brain hypothalamus SNS and HPA axis (and all the H/P stress hormones) are a part of this thing; actually makes it easier to understand Why many of us have the symptoms we do =while one being HIgh cortiosl and another being low cortisol +++++++the guidelines that Dr WIlson describes are still relevant cuz the help the other 'parts' and Not solely the adrenals :)but all that takes Time! a lot of time. i have only seen 1 alternative dr give a Time frame and he used our Thryoid recovery saying he said: it takes 1 month of healing the HPA axis for every 1 year your HPA axis was ~upregulated~ (EG = you were stuck in Fight/flight mode :)still i have seen progress and it has helped me a lot to understand which parts are helping to cause which symptoms.

-Carol> >> > Hi,> > > > My wife was recently diagnosed with Hashimoto's. Her Doc has her raising armour 1/2 grain every two weeks. She is currently on 3.5 grains and has good and bad days. My question: she feels like when she raises she feels better and gets relief- is it OK to raise a little faster than every two weeks? She gets relief, but doesn't want to go too fast. Any ideas?>

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