Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 This is kind of where I've gotten to. Do I really want to take ANOTHER drug that screws with my brain? All of these medications have weird side effects, and let's face it, no researcher, scientist, or doctor fully understands what's going on in anybody's brain. Now, if I'm presented with a medication that has a very high success rate for exactly my problem and few significant side effects, I will consider it. And yes, like you and all of us on here, hell yeah I want a quick fix. This problem sucks. But I'm also not in a rush to make my problem even worse, or give myself kidney failure or early heart disease or a stroke or any number of other problems associated with sticking some lab-created chemical concoction into my body again. Just me.To: SSRIsex Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 8:36:26 AMSubject: No Drug Approach SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. Just a thought folks. -Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I also think the diet and exercise thing is key, not just time. I really need to pick up the exercise part. The diet part I have got down at this point. > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > Just a thought folks. > > -Ben > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 hi ben. does your group feel that supplements are beneficial or harmful to the recovery progress? my specific supplements of concern are sam-e, 5-htp and tyrosine, or any other supplements that raise mood neurotransmitters. thanks, adam > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > -Ben > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Most who recovered claimed they went off caffeine, alcohol, large amounts of sugar AND supplements. I know it will be tough for me because i love sugar, alcohol AND caffeine but these people have REAL stories, of REAL recovery. I invite you to check out this success story thread: http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50771 I talked with a gentleman there who I will not name for his privacy, but you can find him if you PM me I suppose. He had lowered libido, genital numbness, bad orgasms. The whole gammet. He is now about 60% recovered. He can get and maintain erections, the genital numbness went away, his morning erections are back and he is starting to feel libido again. He exercised, ate right, and stayed away from supplements, PHARMECUTICALs and anything that would get in the way of NATURAL recovery. I think its possible for most of us to recover. But we have to give our bodies a chance to do this naturally. This Goldstein protocol stuff is a crock of shit. You want to take MORE drugs? Do you all realize how insane that is. I am done with that stuff. Heroin addicts have often reported ED and it took some 2-3 years to regain there shit. Anyway im done ranting. I know where I stand. Im trying the natural and fairly proven way. As for people here on yahoossri. How many success stories do we have with people trying to FIX their problem? Very few. -ben > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 How did they manage to keep from killing themselves from their post-SSRI depression? Or am I the only one having serious problems with that? If I don't find something to help soon, I may just end up in a bone pile. Please don't suggest cognitive behavior therapy. I can't imagine having a positive attitude about getting old, being alone, having failig organs, and looking forward to Alzheimer's. I don't accept these thngs even though they're there, and I don't want to accept them. To me, accepting them is accepting death, so I might as well kill myself. Ann > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 How is your acupuncture treatment going? Have you had any sessions after that? Subject: Re: No Drug ApproachTo: SSRIsex Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 2:08 AM Most who recovered claimed they went off caffeine, alcohol, large amounts of sugar AND supplements. I know it will be tough for me because i love sugar, alcohol AND caffeine but these people have REAL stories, of REAL recovery. I invite you to check out this success story thread: http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50771 I talked with a gentleman there who I will not name for his privacy, but you can find him if you PM me I suppose. He had lowered libido, genital numbness, bad orgasms. The whole gammet. He is now about 60% recovered. He can get and maintain erections, the genital numbness went away, his morning erections are back and he is starting to feel libido again. He exercised, ate right, and stayed away from supplements, PHARMECUTICALs and anything that would get in the way of NATURAL recovery. I think its possible for most of us to recover. But we have to give our bodies a chance to do this naturally. This Goldstein protocol stuff is a crock of shit. You want to take MORE drugs? Do you all realize how insane that is. I am done with that stuff. Heroin addicts have often reported ED and it took some 2-3 years to regain there shit. Anyway im done ranting. I know where I stand. Im trying the natural and fairly proven way. As for people here on yahoossri. How many success stories do we have with people trying to FIX their problem? Very few. -ben > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I read a book: The UltraMind Solution http://www.ultramind.com/ I know it looks a little gimmicky but I am 2 weeks into the 6 week plan where you cut out ALL sugar, wheat, dairy and artificial sweeteners and I do think it has helped me with my mental function and emotional stability. It hasn't helped yet with the sexual dysfunction but the change in my mood ( I am much more stable) is very dramatic. I think more people need to change their diet. Ironically I found this drastic change easier than any one thing (except when I have to tell people I am doing this " wierd " diet and cannot drink beer, eat bread or sugar, or have any milk). Anyhow some of you may find it interesting. If people are interested I can let them know how it goes after the 6 weeks are up in case these benefits are placebo. Who knows, maybe it will even help with my ED. > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Dear Ann, Hang in there. This Effexor is nasty, nasty stuff. The last time I tried to get off, I lasted about 3 months and had to go back. So I am routing for you. I recently tried to just reduce my dosage down to 37.5 mg per day and I lasted for about 3 months and had a major, major depressive, anxiety episode. Maybe my memory is failing me, but these episodes seem so much worse than anything I ever came close to experiencing before I started this shit. Anyway, I went back up to 75, and have been there for about 4 or 5 weeks. But I still am having really wild mood swings and not sleeping right. I am just trying to hold the line here and it is hard. So I am in your corner. > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always > wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over > here. > > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL > medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. > The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to > be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. > But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug > that can cure this. > > > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that > the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no > medication. > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Hey mate. Its been going well. I have started to get some morning erections back, and my erections are now better maintained. That being said I still have close to 0 libido most of the time. But I suppose its an improvement. > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 how long have you been off all medications? > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Great stuff, Ben, and it is fab to see all those people getting better - even after years of meds. One thing I picked up from the thread was how important it was to remain hopleful. Hope dispels anxiety fear, panic, depression, and all those nasty chemicals in the body, like cortisol, which rot the brain. For some of us healing might take some time, though, especially if we still suffer from the original anxiety or depression that made us try medication in the first place. For me, I don't see this as just healing from PSSD, but a wholistic healing where I mend my broken psyche as well. In fact, healing from inner pain is the path to healing from PSSD. When life is a joy and full of love again, then my brain will be repairing itself. Don't forget, this is not about forcing yourself feel hopeful, it about getting about and enjoying things again and then you find that the hope starts to come. I'm going for a good cycle ride right now, and then after that I will be playing the keyboards and guitar for the rest of the evening. And later in the week I am looking forward to doing some Lindy Hop (jitterbug/ jive) at my club. All the best, Kaivey > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Thanks, . As you may have seen from my " I give up " post, I started taking 18mg/day of Effexor (the dose I was on before I got off was 75 mg). That was Saturday. I slept so muh better that night, and also last night. How I feel during the day is somewhat better, but I suspect I'm going to have to up the dose eventually. This stuff is amazing -- what it does to you if you try to get off. It's like you're trying to kill off a colony of parasites and they fight back with more resources than you have. Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always > > wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL > > medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. > > The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to > > be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. > > But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug > > that can cure this. > > > > > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that > > the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no > > medication. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 that sounds great. Any improvement should be welcome!! Keep us all posted on your progress.Subject: Re: No Drug ApproachTo: SSRIsex Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 3:04 PM Hey mate. Its been going well. I have started to get some morning erections back, and my erections are now better maintained. That being said I still have close to 0 libido most of the time. But I suppose its an improvement. > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Ann, I too am sorry to hear that you feel so bad and have felt the need to go back on Effexor. However, for the sake of the younger women on this forum I would like to post some links. I am sure that a number of these young women look forward to having children and I think that an alarm needs to be sounded so that they won't find themselves shackled to this drug when the time comes that they decide to have them. Amy Philo, a friend of mine on YouTube, and whom I met at the CCHR Silent Auction and Awards ceremony in LA last year, made a video about a young mother, Christian Delahunty, who lost a child after being told by her doctor that Effexor was perfectly safe to use during pregnancy and nursing: http://www.youtube.com/user/amyphilo#p/a/u/2/LGX_34TmT4w Amy and Christian (whom I have also spoken with) later joined a group of concerned women in the home of Cartwright (Bart Simpson's voice) to contribute to a documentary. In this video, Christian expresses how she wonders if nursing on antidepressants may often be the cause of SIDS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcLkQTjt0EI & feature=related Amy Philo, after giving birth to her first son, was given Zoloft because she was anxious about the state of her baby. Here is her story: Amy is now raising her two sons and studying to be a lawyer. She has been very active in protesting the enactment of the Mother's Act. I do hope you feel better, and will continue to hold on to life, for your own sake as well as the sake of your children. Sincerely, Kay P.S. Is there someone who can help you go through withdrawal? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always > > > wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few > over > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL > > > medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get > better. > > > The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need > to > > > be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick > fix. > > > But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no > drug > > > that can cure this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, > that > > > the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take > no > > > medication. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks, . Unfortunately, I don't have a support group to help me with withdrawal. I did get the names of some counselors and I think one of the hospitals here has free group therapy. Speaking of SSRIs and pregnancy/nursing, I've read in several places of serious birth defects (e.g., spina bifida) if the mother was taking an SSRI while pregnant. I can't remember where I saw the references, but there were many. Ann > > > > Ann, I too am sorry to hear that you feel so bad and have felt the need to go back on Effexor. However, for the sake of the younger women on this forum I would like to post some links. I am sure that a number of these young women look forward to having children and I think that an alarm needs to be sounded so that they won't find themselves shackled to this drug when the time comes that they decide to have them. > > Amy Philo, a friend of mine on YouTube, and whom I met at the CCHR Silent Auction and Awards ceremony in LA last year, made a video about a young mother, Christian Delahunty, who lost a child after being told by her doctor that Effexor was perfectly safe to use during pregnancy and nursing: > > http://www.youtube.com/user/amyphilo#p/a/u/2/LGX_34TmT4w > > Amy and Christian (whom I have also spoken with) later joined a group of concerned women in the home of Cartwright (Bart Simpson's voice) to contribute to a documentary. In this video, Christian expresses how she wonders if nursing on antidepressants may often be the cause of SIDS: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcLkQTjt0EI & feature=related > > Amy Philo, after giving birth to her first son, was given Zoloft because she was anxious about the state of her baby. Here is her story: > > > > Amy is now raising her two sons and studying to be a lawyer. She has been very active in protesting the enactment of the Mother's Act. > > I do hope you feel better, and will continue to hold on to life, for your own sake as well as the sake of your children. > > Sincerely, > > Kay > > P.S. Is there someone who can help you go through withdrawal? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 2+ years. I tapered off Zoloft November 2008 after taking Zoloft and previously Effexor for a total of 2 years. Ever since I have had difficulty obtaining and maintaining erections, and problems focusing and with memory. 2-3 years ago feels like the distant past to me, much more distant that it used to. The new diet has really helped my mood. Its been 10 days now since I have had a day of depression. That might not sound like much but I have generally been down fairly often. I am just more stable thanks to the new diet. The doctor who wrote the book claims it can help with memory and other things. He doesn't just talk about the diet though. Another thing he mentions is balancing your hormones. I have relatively low testosterone but there doesn't seem to be a doctor willing to help me with that. > > > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. > > > > > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Under the thought of "Body will align itself" it might be a good idea to do acupunture since the whole philosiphy is to relighned the whole body system. That might speed up the process (In theory). Adil To: SSRIsex Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 8:36:26 PMSubject: No Drug Approach SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here.Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly.People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication.Just a thought folks.-Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I read an interesting theory saying that SSRIs overstimulate the nervous system so even when you go off them, the nervous system is hyper-sensitised. The article recommended an alkaline diet, staying off all sorts of herbs, drugs, even synthetic vitamins. And doing relaxation exercises. Definitely not a quick fix but worth a try i reckon.  Under the thought of " Body will align itself " it might be a good idea to do acupunture since the whole philosiphy is to relighned the whole body system. That might speed up the process (In theory).     Adil  To: SSRIsex Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 8:36:26 PM Subject: No Drug Approach SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here.Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign themselves properly. People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure this. If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. Just a thought folks.-Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yeah, I've always believed it's a hypersensitization issue, especially to serotonin. V > > > > > > > Under the thought of " Body will align itself " it might be a good idea to do > > acupunture since the whole philosiphy is to relighned the whole body system. > > That might speed up the process (In theory). > > > > > > > > > > Adil > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* " benrunyan26@... " > > *To:* SSRIsex > > *Sent:* Fri, January 7, 2011 8:36:26 PM > > *Subject:* No Drug Approach > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I > > have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and > > relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that > > your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign > > themselves properly. > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances > > are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure > > this. > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people > > that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 There are two possible states fos pssd: presynaptic is sending out to much sertonin. postsynaptic is oversensitiv to normal sending. in my opinion we got case one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_synapse#Structure > > > > > > > > > > > Under the thought of " Body will align itself " it might be a good idea to do > > > acupunture since the whole philosiphy is to relighned the whole body system. > > > That might speed up the process (In theory). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adil > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From:* " benrunyan26@ " <benrunyan26@> > > > *To:* SSRIsex > > > *Sent:* Fri, January 7, 2011 8:36:26 PM > > > *Subject:* No Drug Approach > > > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I > > > have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and > > > relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that > > > your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign > > > themselves properly. > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances > > > are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure > > > this. > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people > > > that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Why do you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the thought of " Body will align itself " it might be a good idea to do > > > > acupunture since the whole philosiphy is to relighned the whole body system. > > > > That might speed up the process (In theory). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adil > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* " benrunyan26@ " <benrunyan26@> > > > > *To:* SSRIsex > > > > *Sent:* Fri, January 7, 2011 8:36:26 PM > > > > *Subject:* No Drug Approach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO I am a member over at paxil progress, and I have always wondered why I > > > > have seen success stories over there and VERY few over here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Every person that has gotten better over at PP has quit ALL medications and > > > > relied simply on exercise and good diet to get better. The theory being that > > > > your neurotransmitters and body chemicals need to be left alone to realign > > > > themselves properly. > > > > > > > > People here, INCLUDING MYSELF, are desperate for a quick fix. But chances > > > > are that isnt going to happen. Chances are there is no drug that can cure > > > > this. > > > > > > > > If we want to get better it seems to me, in my research, that the people > > > > that get better wait the longest (2 - 5 years) and take no medication. > > > > > > > > Just a thought folks. > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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